Comments for the week ending May 19, 2003

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DPH> Most of mine are from Season 2. I have a few Season 1 around here somewhere.....these I have already put on disc:

Leader of the Pack
Legion
Lighthouse in sea of time
The Mirror
Eye of the Beholder
Vows
City of Stone 1-4
High Noon
The Price
Revelations
Double Jeopardy
Avalon 1-3
Shadows of the Past
Sancuary
MIA
Kingdom
The New Olympians
Bushido
Future Tense
Hunter's Moon 1-3

I have Ill met by Moonlight and The Gathering 1-2 that I still need to encode.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Sunday, May 18, 2003 06:44:04 PM
IP: 66.220.73.254

Battle Beast - Triple Encrypted. For bonus, it wasn't decrpypted until after the Goliath/Broadway/Elisa vs Hunters battle. Wrong Answer. BTW, can you add 2 or 3 points to warrioress's score for getting my previous question correct? I'm going to rewatch Hunter's Moon part 1 again tonight.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, May 18, 2003 06:20:11 PM
IP: 204.94.193.42

Nickerous> Correct.

28) How secure does Robyn Canmore say Demona's disk is? (3 Pts)

DPH> four?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaSunday, May 18, 2003 05:15:23 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Spacebabie - Wrong answer.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, May 18, 2003 03:58:16 PM
IP: 204.94.193.78

DPH]---I think five. Margot and Brendan, Art and Lois and a construction worker.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Sunday, May 18, 2003 02:20:09 PM
IP: 64.156.102.117

Warrioress - correct. Here's a tough one from Hunter's Moon Part 1. How many passengers, not counting Elisa or the thieves, got out of that subway car after the gargoyles intercepted the thieves? Admittedly, I had to watch the episode in slow motion to catch it.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, May 18, 2003 02:11:50 PM
IP: 204.94.193.58

DPH- four.

warrioress
Sunday, May 18, 2003 10:20:43 AM
IP: 65.64.124.154

Nickerous - Which episodes do you have that have not been edited by Toon Disney? That way I can pick & choose.

btw, I'll throw out an easy question: How many thieves did Demona employ to acquire the DI/7?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:56:54 PM
IP: 204.94.193.50

Battle Beast> The Vikings call them dark elves
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Saturday, May 17, 2003 07:16:57 PM
IP: 66.220.73.162

Ok... that was fast...

Nickerous> Correct.

28) What do Vivkings call the Third Race? (3 Pts)

Later~

Battle Beast
CanadaSaturday, May 17, 2003 07:08:59 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

WOOHOOO!!! Got my first large vinyl figure today. It's Goliath and he looks great! Got a couple spots where the paint is chipping away, but not too bad. One spot that stands out a bit is right in front. A spot a hair missing. Well, I suppose he is getting older....maybe I should enroll him in the Hair Club for Gargoyles. ^_^
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Saturday, May 17, 2003 07:02:52 PM
IP: 66.220.73.162

Battle Beast> he sees his hands melt away in front of his face
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Saturday, May 17, 2003 06:57:35 PM
IP: 66.220.73.162

Spacebabie> Correct.

DPH> Correct, as well.

I'll give Spacebabie the 3 points, but I'll give you 1 for your addition.

27) In "Leader of the Pack," the Coyote robot hits the jail guard with a distortion ray. What does the Guard see? (Specifically, they show one thing.)

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaSaturday, May 17, 2003 06:50:03 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Battle Beast - I'll add to Spacebabie's answer. The judge thought he was intoxicated and Vinnie lost his driver's license.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, May 17, 2003 06:36:22 PM
IP: 204.94.193.67

[One interesting tidbit revelation at "Ask Greg": "fae" and "Oberon's Children" are not synonymous. Rather, "fae" are merely a sub-group of Oberon's Children (like the Norse gods and the Egyptian gods).]
That doesn't sound right, it should be the opposite...Oberon's kiddies should be a subgroup of their whole species, the Fae. But eh, that's just my view of things, can't account for the structure of every world in existence...
Lynati
Saturday, May 17, 2003 05:44:40 PM
IP: 65.66.158.221

Battle Beast]---Vinnie got slapped with a DUI?
I think.. Tis been a Looooong time since I saw that ep.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Saturday, May 17, 2003 05:25:20 PM
IP: 64.156.103.152

Jimmy> Correct. (And your first points as well.)

26) Vinnie, the "Poor Schmo" tells "us" what happened to him *after* Lexington wrecked his motorcycle. What did happen to him?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaSaturday, May 17, 2003 04:52:34 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

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Anonymous
Saturday, May 17, 2003 06:51:54 AM
IP: 64.216.16.51

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Anonymous
Saturday, May 17, 2003 06:50:03 AM
IP: 64.216.16.51

RAC> The Questing Beast is a monster Arthur fought. It was the offspring of a girl and the devil, it had the head of a snake, body of some sort of cat and some other parts of animals.

It's name came from the sound it's stomach made.
silverbolt
Shropshire, England
Saturday, May 17, 2003 04:11:41 AM
IP: 81.131.11.197

Ack! forgot my color...oh well
another one-Bill(Broadway-or if you prefer Patrick the starfish from Spungebog Squarepants) and the same aformentioned large ugly person...
Clicky link
Wingless
Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:37:37 AM
IP: 24.157.76.94

I did some long overdue scanning just now - click the link for a pic of Cree Summer(Hyena) um, just ignore the large ugly person standing next to her...
Wingless
Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:36:05 AM
IP: 24.157.76.94

Todd:

The Questing Beast? What's that?
RAC
Troy, NY, 12182
Friday, May 16, 2003 11:47:46 PM
IP: 24.195.10.68

Hudson and Broadway. Although they have made some progress.

-But on a side note. Greg has really stepped up to the plate in answering these questions. I'd like to congratulate him. Send him a cookie or something.
Jimmy
Friday, May 16, 2003 10:42:44 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Todd> Correct. (Greg's "revelation" surprised me too.)

25) Which two main characters *CAN'T* read?

later~
Battle Beast
CanadaFriday, May 16, 2003 10:22:11 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

BATTLE BEAST - Findlaech, in "City of Stone Part One".

ASK GREG UPDATE: Greg Weisman answered a question that I had about the "Pendragon" spin-off, and in the process of doing so indicated that the Questing Beast would (or at least might) have shown up in the series. That was a big surprise to me (although a fun one) since I hadn't thought that it would still be around (it wasn't on the Arthurian Survivors list - although maybe you had to be a sentient to make it). Now that's what I call an enjoyable revelation.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 16, 2003 07:14:13 PM
IP: 171.75.195.10

MATT> Correct. (3 points) You first points, I might add. With that correct answer, you move from a tie for last into a tie for fourth place. (I'll post standings on Monday.)

24) Who made this statement and in what episode: "Nah! Wretched kitchen maid, probably napping by the stove again!" ?

Later~

Battle Beast
CanadaFriday, May 16, 2003 06:56:19 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

finally got to a question before anyone else!

DPH> he was promised fame, money and action... hes not complaining about the first two, but he could use some more of the third... :)
matt
Friday, May 16, 2003 06:09:16 PM
IP: 207.230.48.136

DPH> Correct.

23) What was Wolf promised when he signed on to do "The Pack"?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaFriday, May 16, 2003 05:36:02 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Nickerous - That's ok and you understand why I would place a high premium on that episode. I'll have to think some more about the next episode in line would be. [In the unlikely event, somebody from Disney is reading this, get this message: we *really* want the dvd of Deadly Force if and only if it is unedited from the original version.] I'll pick

Battle Beast - It's easy enough to identify who. It's Brooklyn. The hard part is identifying the when. City of Stone, Part 1.

Todd - <One interesting tidbit revelation at "Ask Greg".> I noticed that, too. That leads to a potential question for Ask Greg that I probably will not ask. Too many other questions that I want to ask first.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 16, 2003 03:21:46 PM
IP: 204.94.193.65

Silverbolt> Correct.

22) Who made this statement, and from what episode: "Don't gush all over us, ok? It's kind of embarasing." ? (3 pts)

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaFriday, May 16, 2003 02:24:57 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Battle Beast> Demona, The Reckoning.

Sorry for the double post but i wanna be the first to answer the question :P
silverbolt
Friday, May 16, 2003 01:03:34 PM
IP: 81.131.102.23

MGC (Monthly Gargoyle Art Contest) has been updated!!
Congrats to Kanthara and Sara Berkley for their winning submissions!

We're still accepting entries for the TV Parodies category for this month (up until the 30th).

Everyone is welcome to enter! So please do so! :D
Siryn - [<--MGC]
Friday, May 16, 2003 12:15:20 PM
IP: 66.66.97.209

YAY!!! Lilo & Stich! My favorite!!!!!!

RAC> Correct.

DPH> Watch "Awakening - 4". About 7:00 in, the troopers "fan out," Elisa kicks one who falls to the ground and hits his head (but is still knocked out). Elisa takes his weapon, and the other troopers fire on her (amazingly missing her!) and then she fires one shot towards them, hitting a big shroom statue (or another statue) and procedes to run into the boat house where she discovers the gun to be empty.

21) Who says the following, and in what episoide: "Ah, but it's a very clever tin can."

Later~


Battle Beast
CanadaFriday, May 16, 2003 10:24:13 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66

SILVERBOLT - That is one nasty creativity demon, especially the "Sword in the Stone II". ("The Sword in the Stone" is possibly the only Disney animated movie out there which could legitimately have a sequel, considering that it's the start of Arthur's reign - but since they'd never dare handle the Lancelot and Guinevere business, I can see why they'd end it there.)

Some years ago, somebody actually did write a sequel to "The Sword in the Stone" crossed over with "Gargoyles", at the Gargoyles fanfic archive, although I can't remember the name or the author now. It covered Arthur's reign with gargoyles becoming involved (three particular ones living in Camelot, one of whom goes bad, sides with Mordred and Morgan le Fay, but then gets smashed to pieces during his stone sleep by his treacherous allies), including the Grail Quest, Lancelot and Guinevere's affair, and Mordred's takeover. One nit in it was that they had Morgan le Fay plotting with the Weird Sisters, who were portrayed as already setting up their big scheme with the Archmage and involving Macbeth and Demona - but the Weird Sisters and the Archmage teamed up long after Arthur's original time period (Arthur was taken to Avalon in 542 according to Greg Weisman, over four hundred years before Princess Katharine and Co. moved in).

One interesting tidbit revelation at "Ask Greg": "fae" and "Oberon's Children" are not synonymous. Rather, "fae" are merely a sub-group of Oberon's Children (like the Norse gods and the Egyptian gods).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 16, 2003 09:12:19 AM
IP: 171.75.194.64

crap....DPH.....*sigh* what I get for getting on while still half asleep...
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Friday, May 16, 2003 08:02:44 AM
IP: 66.220.73.236

Well, yesterday Disney released a rather long list of DVD releases for the next 18 months or so. Gargoyles isn't on the list (and neither is Spider-Man and Hulk), but I think that's because they don't have specific dates yet for those releases. silverbolt mentioned the *cough* cheapqueals - and it really disgusts me that there are a lot of those getting special edition treatment. Since when does a low-rent crappy knockoff of a good movie deserve a special edition while other movies have yet to see DVD release and/or still have had rather depressing releases?

Anyhoo, clicky my name for the news article, from there you can see the full list of releases so far.
Cassie
Friday, May 16, 2003 08:01:59 AM
IP: 137.141.236.213

I agree, DHP, that one would be worth having....unfortunetly, I don't have that one. :(

I'm hoping Toon Disney will air it again this year at Halloween, so I can get that version. Sorry about that....is there another one you'd like to have?
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Friday, May 16, 2003 08:01:57 AM
IP: 66.220.73.236

*sigh* Disney really is going down hill now, I mean these sequals are really getting tiresome now. I need to get thsi off my chest.

But at least there are some films they haven't touched yet but I've thought up some really obvious ones that they'll probably do, one day.

Beauty and the Beast 2: Belle's daughter (it's always daughters these days) is really selfish and mean blah blah blah, gets turned into a monster and only becomes human again once she learns about kindness and love and other crap like that when everyone gets turned into ornaments.

Sword in the Stone 2: evil madame Mim turns that little girl squirrel from the first film into a human in the usual evil bad guy plot to take over King Arthurs throne and the squirrel turns out to be Guinevere (Disney would defiantly do something as inaccurate that!)

Sleeping Beauty 2: Sleeping beauty's daughter... oh what's the point?! Ever sequal Disney does is the same! It's a poorly animated thing featuring the offspring of the originals in some crazy adventure where they learn about caring after being tricked by the cousin or sibling of the original bad guy!

Walt must be spinning around in his cryogenics tube...
silverbolt
shropshire, England
Friday, May 16, 2003 07:08:20 AM
IP: 212.50.183.100

Oh my God, is it really that important?
Jimmy
Friday, May 16, 2003 02:04:22 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Battle Beast - Stratches off 0, 1 (you said "shots", 2, and 3 as possible answers. 4 shots. [During the Halloween marathon on Toon Disney, I paid for copies to be made of all the episodes.] If this answer ain't right, I'm going back to watch the episode again, because I can't believe that Elisa got off more than 4 shots from a borrowed gun.

There's only 1 episode really worth having unedited (considered I have edited versions of all the stories), IMO: the one that was butchered the worst by Toon Disney the only time they aired it. An unedited version of "Deadly Force" in pretty good quality is what I would want. I'll send you an email with my address.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 16, 2003 12:58:10 AM
IP: 204.94.193.25

Battlebeast:

I think it was one shot from the mercenary's tranq gun that Elisa relieved him of but didn't think of grabbing his tranq ammo as well.

Might want to double-check in case someone earlier may have answered this.
RAC
Troy, NY, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33:35 PM
IP: 24.195.9.64

DPH> I have about half the series (39 to be exact) in original format. As I said before, I am missing 25 episodes off of Toon Disney to complete the series. The TD episodes are in better shape (taped in SP, off sattelite). The originals are in EP and were taped about 6-7 years ago. Still, they are in pretty good condition.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:21:30 PM
IP: 66.220.73.173

DPH> Incorrect. (Sorry.)

I just checked the ep, and I'm still right.

Keep trying!

DPH> BTW, do you know which ep you want?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 15, 2003 10:10:30 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

I meant to type episodes you recorded from Toon Disney or unedited episodes.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 09:48:05 PM
IP: 204.94.193.39

Nickerous - There are two ways to type my name that I don't mind: DPH and PHD. Are you talking about using what you taped from Toon Disney episodes that weren't edited by Toon Disney?

Battle Beast - 2 shots. (I hope you're staying up to verify incorrect answers) If I'm wrong, I'll be right back with another guess.

I'll throw out another question of mine since nobody seems to be able to answer my previous question: from Hunter's Moon part 1, which canister of DI/7 does Jason hit with a bullet?
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 09:47:03 PM
IP: 204.94.193.39

DOH! make that DPH. dang typos!
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 03:14:05 PM
IP: 66.220.73.200

Ok, DHPs answer was what I was looking for, but since Battle Beast put so much detail into it, I'll change the rules and make both winners. Email me your address, your episode of choice, and if you'll be viewing these on a dvd player or on a computer. Right now, they are set up for dvd, but I can change the settings for windows media player, if you'd rather have that. If you need to check the compatibility of a dvd player, goto www.vcdhelp.com

or just tell me your brand of dvd and I'll check it out. good job, u2!
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 03:13:19 PM
IP: 66.220.73.200

Hey...

Q 20> No no no! I'm not changing my question! Elisa fires "A" gun she gets from one of those troopers. But how many times?

Not Her "Police" gun; ANOTHER weapon.

DPH> I pay close attention to detail. Yah. Your answer is simplified. I don't really care if I win or loose... it's how I played the game. :)

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 15, 2003 10:03:53 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66

Nickerous > Re: "Why bother?" - Because on eBay, greedy bootlegging seller + naive buyer = big profit. That seller and the others like him are turning a pretty penny and as long as they avoid attracting Disney's attention they can keep right on doing it. If you want to see sellers like that get what they deserve, follow the links to the VERO program and report the auctions directly to Disney. eBay will not do anything about bootlegs unless the complaint comes directly from the rights holder. And with their own DVD release of "Gargoyles" in the works, I'd imagine Disney might soon start being a bit more proactive bout cracking down on this sort of think they have been in the past.
Patrick Toman
Thursday, May 15, 2003 07:17:31 AM
IP: 65.43.166.196

*studies Battle Beast's answer* Funny, my answer could be considered the simplified version of Battle Beast's answer, even though it was posted first. If one gets it wrong, both get it wrong.

Battle Beast - <Elisa DOES fire here gun.> Just so I understand the question correctly: the question is how many times does Elisa fire Elisa's gun not how many times does Elisa fire the gun she got from one of the goon squad? My understanding was the question was about the later, not the former.

Where's Gunjack from the other cr when I need him to clarify the differences between those two guns so I can understand the capacity of each?
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 03:26:21 AM
IP: 204.94.193.63

Battle Beast:Ah now your changing it then you stated your question wrong.
Now your saying HER gun before you asked The Troopers gun.
*Bonks you on the head*
That is the only reason why it was wrong.
And since I don't want the points I will let someone else answer it since I have it right here next to me and know the answer and could watch it to double check if I wished even.
So make sure you ask the question right if you want the answer right.
My return is coming - [Marphos@yahoo.com]
Thursday, May 15, 2003 02:07:46 AM
IP: 67.249.210.84

NICKEROUS> I haven't included flashback at the beginning of the eps (Previously on Gargoyles...) if you wanted than, I can do that.

City of Stone 1, 2, 3, 4
1) Gilcomgain (fighting MacBeth's Father)
2) MacBeth (looking at Demona's Broadcast)
3) MacBeth (in his ship)
4) Gilcomgain (Fighting Demona)
5) Gilcomgain (Fighting MacBeth)
6) King Duncan (Looking out his window w/weird Sisters)
7) MacBeth (attacking Demona W/ Xanatos looking on)
8) Duncan (Destroying Demona's Clan)
At this point, Duncan is killed by MacBeth and Canmore is exiled, but not before taking back the mask.
9) MacBeth (attacking Demona with Bronx looking ON)
10) Canmore (with army while being attacked by Demona)
11) Canmore (fighting MacBeth With his wife there)

Hunter's Moon
12) Jason Canmore
13) John Canmore
14) Robyn Canmore
15) Renaissance Hunter
16) Charles Canmore

Is that all? Since I couldn't atch "Hunter's Moon" triptych like I did "City of Stone," I can't list them all like I did before, but I hope this works.

Marphos@yahoo.com> Incorrect. The answer is still out there. Elisa DOES fire here gun... but how many times? Here is a small hint: the answer is located in "Awakening - IV".

Later~


Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 15, 2003 12:46:18 AM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Battle Beast: Nice trick question since Elisa never did Demona on the other hand did though so the answer is Elisa never fired a shot at all since she never had a gun of a trooper.
My return is coming - [Marphos@yahoo.com]
Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:12:54 AM
IP: 67.249.210.84

*thinks for a second about Nickerous's question* Gillecomgain (if the spelling ain't right, I'm blaming a website), Macbeth, Duncan, Canmore, *stops to ponder the next set of hunters* Jason Canmore, John Canmore, Robyn Canmore, Renaissance Hunter, Charles Canmore

I know I have them all listed.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:04:30 AM
IP: 204.94.193.30

jumping back again one last time.....there will only be 1 winner....whoever gets the question right first
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:27:22 PM
IP: 66.220.73.27

just to clarify the question, I'm looking for order of appearance in the episodes, not a timeline version. (i.e., we saw this person 1st, this one second, in the present, in a flashback, doesn't matter...we saw this person wearing the mask 1st on our tv sets, this one second, etc.)
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:25:17 PM
IP: 66.220.73.27

Battle Beast> Elisa doesn't take the weapon of the first trooper, she takes it from the second, and she gets 1 shot out of it before she runs into the boathouse. Right?.....maybe? :)

Ok, I'm on such a Gargoyles rush right now, I'm going to do something crazy. I am so excited about the quality of these discs that I'm going to give one away right now. I will mail 1 disc containing 1 episode to the first person who answers this question correctly.....

Give me the names, and the order of appearance, of each character who wore the mask of the hunter in season 2.

Whoever gets this right will receive 1 cd-r with 1 episode of Gargoyles. You can even pick the episode. Just email me your address. But, you've got to get the question right. ;)

Absolutely no strings attached, a gift from one Gargoyles fan to another. If I should not be doing this, let me know and I will withdraw the whole thing. If I can (and if it doesn't cost me much to ship) I may do it again in the future....
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:20:40 PM
IP: 66.220.73.27

Greetings "Gargoyles" fans,

The Seventh Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles is just seven short weeks away, and pre-registration will be ending on June 13, 2003. We've planned an event-packed weekend that you won't want to miss. Here are a few of the highlights:

GUESTS:

Joining us in New York City will be the lovely Brigitte Bako, making her Gathering debut. "Gargoyles" fans know her best as the voice of Angela, Goliath and Demona's daughter. Fans of Japanese animation will also recognize her as the voice of Pai / Sanjiyan / Pabo / Parvati / Howasho (the demon girl with multiple personalities) in the 2000 English dub of the animé series "3x3 Eyes." She is also the voice of Monique Dupre in the animated series "Godzilla."

On stage, Brigitte has performed in such distinguished productions as "Othello" at the Reflections Shakespeare Festival and "The Doll's House." On the big screen, she has appeared in numerous films, including "Paranoia," "Double Take," "Strange Days," "One Good Cop," and Martin Scorsese's "New York Stories." Brigitte was nominated for a Canadian Oscar for her performance in "St. Monica." Her television
appearances include the ABC series "Equal Justice," the Showtime original movies, "The Escape" and "The Red Shoe Diaries," and her role as Bianca in HBO's acclaimed series "Mind of a Married Man."

Also joining us once more are Greg Weisman, "Gargoyles" series creator & supervising producer, and Thom Adcox, the voice of Lexington. For more information on all of our guests, please visit the Guests page of our web site at:

http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/guests.html

TEE SHIRTS:

The art for the official Gathering 2003 tee shirt can now be viewed at:
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Congratulations and thanks to Kanthara for her spectacular design. Only a limited number of shirts will be available for general sale at the convention. Don't be left out. Pre-order yours today using our registration and order form!

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BANQUET:

A wonderful repast awaits you in the Hotel Pennsylvania's Skytop Ballroom. The buffet-style menu this year includes:

Sauteed breast of chicken w/ natural juice
Slices top sirloin of beef w/ bordelasise sauce
Stuffed filet of sole, Meuniere
Mixed greens with assorted dressing
Salad and oven-baked fresh rolls
Chef's choice of dessert
Coffee, decaffeinated coffee, and tea

To reserve your spot at the banquet, use our registration and order form:
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CONEY ISLAND:

The fun doesn't end at Closing Ceremonies. Join us on Sunday afternoon and evening for a trip to the world famous Astroland Amusement Park.

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Astroland is the home of the Coney Island Cyclone, the top-ranked wooden roller coaster in the world. "Gargoyles" fans will also recognize it as the site where the end battle took place in the second season episode "The Reckoning." The Gathering 2003 staff is taking a show of hands on who is interested. Since our group already numbers more than 15 people, it will qualify for a group discount rate of $9 per person for full admission, as compared to the normal rate of $22.

If you're going to the Gathering and you're interested in the after-con trip to Coney Island, please e-mail Patrick Toman at "ptoman@artchicks.org" and he will add your name to the list.

HOTEL REMINDER:

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PRE-REGISTRATION:

Once again: the deadline for pre-registration is June 13, 2003. Don't delay! Add your name to those Gathering for this memorable weekend.

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Please note: after June 13, 2003, "at the door" membership rates will apply, pre-orders for t-shirts can no longer be taken, and space at the banquet will be subject to availability.

And as always, if you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact us at: gathering@gargoyles-
Gathering 2003 Staff
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:09:34 PM
IP: 216.179.3.235

CASSIE & DPH> Incorrect.

The correct answer is still out there, 3 points up for grabs.

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaWednesday, May 14, 2003 10:55:41 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

I wish there was a form we could sign absolving Greg of all responsibility if his story bears similiarities to an Ask Greg idea. But then I shudder to think how long the queue would be.
So my point is: at this point, anything that shortens the queue is a good thing. Now we are that much closer to finishing that damn backlog off. You should be happy Todd deleted your question Galvatron. It enriches us all.
Jimmy
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 09:55:56 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183

GALVATRON - Let me put it this way. Say Greg Weisman gets to do "The New Olympians" at last. Say that he does decide to give Sphinx a rival suitor alongside Terry. If he'd seen your question about whether Sphinx had any rival suitors (and if he'd answered it, he certainly would have), then there'd be the possibility of your claiming that that idea was yours. That's why he doesn't dare look at anybody's suggestions for the series.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 06:40:51 PM
IP: 171.75.194.171

Battle Beast - 2 shots. She got to run off a couple of shots before going into the storage shed.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 06:25:07 PM
IP: 204.94.193.45

Well, I've been watching DVD sets of Gargoyles on Ebay just to see what they are going for. Currently, there is one that is up to $61. This seller has already sold 4 or 5 of these sets, but, every one is a private auction (bidders identity protected). I did some figuring on this and concluded that these dvds are no better quality than my SVCDs and, could be worse than mine.

The episodes I put on disc are around 400-420MB. This breaks down to around 2520bps ( I think bps is bits per second). This is the maximum bit rate for a cd if you want to play it in a dvd player. Any higher and you get slowdown and audio hiccups (looks like someone hitting the pause button repeatedly). I have gone as high as 4500bps and watched it on the computer screen. It looks like broadcast quality.

Now, a dvd-r holds 4.7GB, this seller has 15 episodes per disc (5 dvd-rs in the set), there are 1024 MB in a GB (someone correct me if I'm wrong here...it's been a while since I had a computer class)........meaning that each episode will average in the 320MB range.

Why bother? I know that dvd-rs are expensive, but why even convert to it if you don't get any better quality? I ran a test just to see what my converter's default settings are on a dvd-file....one episode of Gargoyles would be around 1400mb. Using the default settings, I could only get 3 episodes per dvd-r. If I doubled my episodes to around 800MB, I could get 6 episodes on 1 dvd-r and have much better quality than this seller.

Anyway. I saw this and wanted to rant. Hope I didn't bore anyone to death. Think I'll start labeling this posts BUYER BEWARE. ^_^
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 06:17:41 PM
IP: 66.220.73.55

Battle Beast - I believe she doesn't get any shots out, I think it was empty.
Cassie
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 04:11:00 PM
IP: 137.141.236.213

Demona Taina> Correct.

Twenty questions already!

20) In "Awakening - IV" Elisa takes the weapon of the first "trooper" she knocks out. How many shots does she get out of the weapon?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaWednesday, May 14, 2003 03:21:24 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Battle Beast: Avalon sent Pendragon to London. He met Griff there and the Stone of Destiny sent him to Manhattan through a portal of some sort.
Demona Taina - [demona3@hotmail.com]
Ponce, Puerto Rico
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:42:59 AM
IP: 196.42.28.42

Todd-Mind explaining your reasoning behind this. I really don't see how this could be a story idea in disguise considering New Olympians and Sphynx and Terry were pitched as a Romeo and Juliet story.
Galvatron
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:02:33 AM
IP: 213.133.123.131

RAC> Correct.

Question 19

19) How did King Arthur get to Manhattan? (2 PTS)

Demona's GARGOYLES> I always wondered about them. THe little grren one is my favourite; I just think he's the coolist looking of them all. He looks like a true gargoyle to me.

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaWednesday, May 14, 2003 10:02:18 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66

GALVATRON - Sorry, but "Does Sphinx have any suitors other than Terry?" is an idea disguised as a question.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 07:46:38 AM
IP: 171.75.194.81

i would like to know why this question was removed from the queue.

Anonymous writes...
Does Sphinx have any other suitors besides Terry?

It doesn´t violate any of the present rules such as no ideas so why was it removed.
Galvatron
Wednesday, May 14, 2003 05:52:21 AM
IP: 213.133.123.131

Battlebeast:

Jason suffered a sever spine and is paralyzed from the waist down, thanks to Jon.

On other news, nifty info on where the gargoyles came from that Demona picked up during the "City of Stone" series.
Rac
Troy, NY, USA
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:10:34 PM
IP: 24.195.9.64

Sorry.

I just wanted to clarify my question:

18) What injury did Jason Canmore suffer in Hunter's Moon III? (2 pts)

Again, sorry.

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 13, 2003 10:10:55 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Demona Taina> Close enough. He never found the jewels; he only found marbles. (It was a trick question.)

18) How was Jason Canmore hurt in Hunter's Moon III? (2 pt)

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 13, 2003 10:09:06 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Battle Beast: I might as well give this a shot. There weren't any jewels... Mace Malone had tricked both Dracon and Dominic throughout the years. They found a nice bag full of marbles instead...
Demona Taina - [demona3@hotmail.com]
Ponce, Puerto Rico
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 09:08:33 PM
IP: 196.42.28.179

JIMMY - I'm currently up to mid-December 2002.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 07:27:47 PM
IP: 171.75.195.8

I know, that's why I said "almost." There are only around the neighborhood of 100-150 questions left for the year. When compared to the fact that each year has about 300-400 questions Greg is closer to the end of 2001 than he is to the middle.
Another interesting Ask Greg statistic:
There are right now well over 1000 questions on right now. I didn't actually count them, I counted the first 200, figured out about what amount of my scroll bar that was, and multiplied. So I'm guessing there are somewhere between 1200-1500 questions on ther.
Jimmy
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 07:24:41 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Nickerous> That's not the answer I am looking for. Sorry. Try again! But you are close.

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 13, 2003 07:19:31 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Sorry for the double post, but I was wondering:
Todd> how far are you on cutting off questions with story ideas in them? Are you done with the queue?
Jimmy
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 07:16:35 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Jimmy - <Wow, looks like Greg is almost done with 2001.> *checks list* Look again. The next question in line has a date of November 7, 2001.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 07:15:41 PM
IP: 204.94.193.12

Wow, looks like Greg is almost done with 2001.
Jimmy
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 04:52:16 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Oh yeah, one more thing. The Gargoyles set I bought off of eBay came with a Batman animated series set as well. This set was 3 to a disc, but it looked much better. I'm thinking these were copies of professionally made vcds. Anyway, 1 episode of Batman and 2 episodes of Gargoyles wouldn't work for me. The seller sent me a replacement for each disc. I was pretty surprised by that. Most people on eBay will not stand by their product like that.

I will still buy off there, but only from sellers with high ratings. Sometimes not even then. The feedback is a good indication.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 03:10:40 PM
IP: 66.220.73.185

Battle Beast> Hmm....in the mouth of the silver falcon across from Mace Malone's old office. I believe that was where the "jewels" were.

eBay> I've finished around 150 auctions off of eBay and was only taken for a ride once. Seller finally shipped item after 3 months of harrassment. I've been thinking about putting these discs on eBay when I get finished. Still haven't decided for sure tho.

VCD> I stand corrected. The VCDs I made (3 to a disc) look like crap. The only thing I can compare it to is watching a very dirty movie in a movie theater (full of black dirt spots and scratches......VERY distracting).
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 03:06:47 PM
IP: 66.220.73.185

Sorry.

I was readin Greg's post on "Fan Fic" and at the very bottom of his response he wrote:

"I did "RIGHT" a Fan-fic on King Lear once..."

He used the wrong speeling of the word. I find this ammusing because Greg (to me) seems to use a lot of attention to details (in his responses, writings, and being a writer himself.)

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 13, 2003 10:25:07 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66

Todd> Correct.

17) Where did Tony Dracon find the jewels he was looking for? (3 pts)

VCDs> I made a VCD of "Hunters Moon 1-3" and it turned out terribly. I wouldn't evenplay on my DVD. It lookd not bad on my comp, though. I would never buy them off Ebay, though.

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 13, 2003 10:18:35 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66

Hmm, talking about the VCDs on eBay, I think I'll throw this out as well. I've seen a few sets get bought up too (for lots of money, specially for the crap that the person is winding up with). But what really is making me ill, is I bought one set awhile back, and five or six of the episodes didn't even work. (I'm wary of eBay for many reasons - and only bought the VCDs just to see, they were dcheap so I'm not overly upset over the loss). But I wouldn't suggest trying to get any of the discs off of eBay, unless you really trust that seller. Nickeros already mentioned the quality, so I won't even go there. It's sad that people don't give a crap about true quality sometimes, it's all about getting your hard-earned cash.

'Kay, 'nuff of my ramblings for one morning. Must pack!
Cassie
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 08:26:43 AM
IP: 137.141.237.21

Nickerous - <In the Toon Disney version, they skip> I noticed a really bad cut in "I'll Meet by Moonlight" when talking about Oberon's vulnerability. Too bad Xanatos didn't have a small iron bell on hand during "The Gathering" unless Puck was concerned.

I guess my question from last week about which hunter used what weapon against which gargoyle in order was a bit too hard. While I was recently watching "Hunter's Moon", I wrote down a bunch of small things down for trivia questions.

Admittedly, when I was watching "Awakening" again on my vcr, I ran the bit with Broadway eating in slow motion just to count the number of bites because I didn't believe the correct answer.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 13, 2003 03:03:42 AM
IP: 204.94.193.15

hmm. just thought of something else....

I noticed a ToonDisney cut out on City of Stone part 1. Haven't seen this posted anywhere.....Elisa tells Matt that they have confirmed IDs on hostages when he asks why they don't go in. In the Toon Disney version, they skip to her saying "Captain says, keep trying". I guess that was part of the September 11th cut along with the "terrorist" one.

Ok, I'm gonna be quiet now. :)
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Monday, May 12, 2003 10:39:38 PM
IP: 66.220.73.68

Oh hey, just wanted to throw this out too....don't know how many folks are into VCDs around here, but I've seen quite a few vcd sets of Gargoyles on eBay. I bought one of these a few months ago and want to share my experience.

These discs I make are 1 episode per disc. These that I bought are 3 episodes per disc. The quality of the bought ones really stink. They look OK on the computer, but absolutely horrible on dvd. Mine look good on both (and full screen on the computer. the others look ok at half-screen or even quarter-screen). Watch out for cruddy VCDs. I've made some that are 3 per disc, but they look better than the ones I bought (still nothing worth bragging about tho.)

So ends my techno babble post. :)
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Monday, May 12, 2003 10:28:43 PM
IP: 66.220.73.68

Battle beast> shooting paper clips/wads of paper at cockroaches. What was a paper clip doing in there anyway? Wouldn't that be considered a weapon?

*sigh* I see Toon Disney did not put Gargoyles back into the Power Pack next week. 25 episodes to go.....are the Goliath Chronicles shown on TD? I sure hope so. :(
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Monday, May 12, 2003 10:22:53 PM
IP: 66.220.73.68

BATTLE BEAST - Shooting rubber bands at cockroaches.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 12, 2003 07:33:32 PM
IP: 171.75.194.91

Sorry, this last post was from me...

Nickerous> Correct.

16) What is Hyena doing in prison prior to escaping?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaMonday, May 12, 2003 07:28:27 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Nickerous> Correct.

16) What is Hyena doing in prison prior to escaping?

Later~
barrie Lukinuk
CanadaMonday, May 12, 2003 07:27:21 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

Hello all,

I was watching Toon Disney and they announced the release of Atlantis 2: Milo's Return on DVD. I recall Greg W. mentioning working on the series before it was pulled. I was wondering if anyone has anymore info on it?
Taleweaver - [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~]
West Covina, CA, USA
Monday, May 12, 2003 07:13:14 PM
IP: 24.205.177.107

Well, Greg Weisman just answered some more questions at "Ask Greg" - and he deleted that whole string of questions by Anonymous about "Would so-and-so have gotten into the Gargoyles Universe?" It looks as though he's starting to handle the frivolous and over-asked questions himself. That should help speed up the queue a little.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 12, 2003 06:36:17 PM
IP: 171.75.194.91

Battle Beast> Paris, France
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Monday, May 12, 2003 03:56:57 PM
IP: 66.220.73.193

Hey!

Here is the point standings thus far...

DPH - 13
Cassie - 5
Enigma - 5
Demona Taina - 3
Gabriel - 3
Vashkoda - 2
Warrioress - 2

15) In what city did Demona find the Praying Gargoyle?

Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaMonday, May 12, 2003 03:12:22 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242

10th!
Leo
Monday, May 12, 2003 07:58:47 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

9th.

Recently, I noticed something a little - well, peculiar about the events in "City of Stone Part Four". When Canmore invaded Scotland in 1057, he did so merely as the Hunter, keeping his true identity secret (since Macbeth doesn't even know that the Hunter was Canmore until the two of each other were facing each other directly after the fall of Castle Moray). The question that I suddenly found myself wondering was why Canmore was keeping his identity secret during the war. After all, his true identity as Canmore, son of Duncan could have been an asset to him, since it would allow him to cast his invasion as "the rightful king coming to reclaim the throne unjustly stolen from his father" - which, indeed, he does in the Shakespeare play. Given the "PR advantage" that revealing his true identity from the start would have given him, why did he hide his name behind the Hunter's mask?

The most probable answer that I can think of was that nearly everybody in Scotland in 1057 still remembered what a tyrant Duncan had been, and were thus anything but enthusiastic about seeing his son upon the throne. But I'm not certain that even that's explanation enough. (This does strike me as a good question for "Ask Greg" when it becomes possible to submit questions to it again).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 12, 2003 06:38:32 AM
IP: 171.75.194.114

8TH in the name of sleep... *yawns*
matt
Monday, May 12, 2003 06:31:16 AM
IP: 207.230.48.5

Seventh!

Eep, last two finals before graduation today...color me nervous!
Cassie
Monday, May 12, 2003 06:25:43 AM
IP: 137.141.237.139

6th in the name of cute fluffy werewolf pups everywhere!
silverbolt
Monday, May 12, 2003 02:43:49 AM
IP: 81.131.150.189

5th
Jimmy
Monday, May 12, 2003 02:06:57 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183

Fourth!

And 45 days until the Gathering!
Vashkoda
Monday, May 12, 2003 01:57:15 AM
IP: 129.98.127.164

THIRD! Mwahaha. [claims spot]
Demona Taina - [demona3@hotmail.com]
Ponce, Puerto Rico
Monday, May 12, 2003 01:47:21 AM
IP: 196.42.28.153

2nd
Knoxville - [knox@ketnar.org]
Monday, May 12, 2003 12:00:43 AM
IP: 208.54.204.195

Lets see....could I be first? Naw, Im just imagining things. Er..well, no one seems to be below me so maybe I am.

Weeeeeeeeee

OH, and Belated happy Birthday to Matt & Ithica
Wingless
Monday, May 12, 2003 12:00:06 AM
IP: 24.157.76.94