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Since Chad spilled the beans...

WHAT WE KNOW
I've been authorized by Buena Vista Home Entertainment to confirm that there will indeed be another release of episodes from Gargoyles on DVD.

Obviously, those episodes will come from the second season... and I have been assured that in any case the episodes will be released in the correct order.

They are planning on involving me again.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
We don't know how may releases there are going to be to cover the second season.
We don't know how many discs. We don't know how many episodes per disc.
We don't know what the extras are going to be.
We don't know any release dates.

As I learn more, I'll keep you posted.

WHAT I'M HOPING FOR
My preference would be that they break up the 2nd Season into three separate releases.

The first release would include 23 episodes, running from "Leader of the Pack" through "Avalon, Part Three".

The second release would include 26 episodes, running from "Shadows of the Past" through "The Reckoning".

The third release would include 3 episodes, running from "Hunter's Moon, Part One" through "Hunter's Moon, Part Three".

I am not even vaguely implying that this is there plan. I don't know what they are planning. I'm simply expressing my personal preference, as many of you have done in the Station 8 Comment Room.

I will, of course, take whatever I can get.


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Xander writes...

This has always bothered me as i happen to love languages. What is the incantation and translation used to open up the firey ball for the Phoenix Gate? and is it in Latin or another language?

Greg responds...

It's an ancient dialect of Latin. I call it that, since despite our best efforts we seem to have gotten the proper latin wrong.

"Deslagrate muri tempi et intervalia!" translates to "Burn down the walls of time and space!"

Response recorded on May 19, 2005

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Lawrence Matheson writes...

who invented robotic body armour? was it MacBeth?Renard?Xanitos? or someone else?

Greg responds...

I think it was Robert Heinlein.

Response recorded on May 19, 2005

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Francois Ferland writes...

If nothing went right, you recently got a post I made by mistake that included every previous questions I asked you. But if everything went right and the webmaster got my mail, it's gone and you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm hoping for the former, so here's the question I was trying to send last time:

I'm still making my way through the archives (hey, it's been four years since I read it all) and each day brings forth new ideas to me, so forgive me for swarming you with so many posts in a row.

I've been reading several of the comments you made when seeing Gargoyles episodes with your family, and where you where interested in how we reacted at first to some events. So I decided to dig up those old memories and list a few key moments from the show where you (and your staff) managed to really surprise me.

Deadly Force:

This one surprised the hell out of me. When Broadway fires the gun and we hear silence, I was certain that this was a fake-scare. I mean, one of the show's hero shooting another one? Get real! And then I saw Elisa on the floor. And not just lying there with no sign of injury like is often shown in cartoons with serious accident, but resting in a pool of her own blood! If there ever was a moment where I finally took for granted that Gargoyles was a cartoon far beyond any other in terms of sophistication, that was it. And even better, we got that from Disney? Damn, I wish they'd take that kind of risk again for a TV series...

The Edge:

The opening scene where Xanatos, responding to Owen's offer to pretend to lose, replies "I'd fire you if you did". Almost any other cartoon (or live action show for that matter) would have had the villain either beat up or berate his underling for daring to beat him. You just expect it, as it's one of the most popular stereotype on TV. At this point, I still didn't know enough about Xanatos to expect that from him. It's also a defining moment where I also realized that Xanatos wasn't your ordinary bad guy. I don't think he ever really surprised that much afterward.

A Lightouse In The Sea Of Time:

Having Xanatos shown as the one responsible for the theft at first was actually refreshing. You don't know how many shows I've seen where even for very obscure reasons the right villain is always suspected right away, or how a mostly forgotten villain will suddenly be mentionned for no reason at all just to be revealed as being the brains behind the evil scheme of the day.

Maybe producers feel they don't have time to waste on a false lead, or that it's better to give the upcoming villain some introduction, no matter how clumsy it might seem.

Outfoxed:

When we meet Preston Vogel, there was an immediate alarm in my mind. We get another executive assistant type-guy who happens to look exactly like Owen? Can you say lazy Character Model re-use? It felt very cheap, and even though the rest of the episode was good, that particular detail always bugged me. That is, until several episodes down the road, we get to...

The Gathering:

First off, the scene where Petros comments on Vogel and Owen's ressembleance was hilarious. At first, I thought it was only a bit of self-derision, being aware the animators hadn't been very subtle about Vogel's character model, until Puck tells us Vogel was the inspiration for Owen. Great stuff.

And while Oberon was wasting his energy fighting the force field, I kept yelling "Just get in form the underside, it's not protected dummy!". It always seemed stupid in cartoons and comics when nobody ever thinks to go UNDER the blasted force field. Imagine my surprise when our favourite lord and master does just that.

I'm sure there are other instances where the Gargoyles staff played on our expectations as an audience. It gives the series a much more polished feel, that you were quite aware of what we might think and expect and deliberately used that to your advantage as often as possible to surprise us.

Greg responds...

We tried. HARD. I'm glad the effort paid off -- at least for you. Thanks for the kind words.

Response recorded on May 19, 2005

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Wiu Wiu Pong Pong Pong writes...

What is a sense distortion laser beam

Greg responds...

It mucks with things like inner ear function.

Response recorded on May 18, 2005

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Phoenician writes...

Greg-
It's me again. Sorry for asking you a second time, especially on 9/11, yet I was reading in the Oringinal Ask Greg Archives and I found a question refering to the Phoenix Gate and a Gargoyle's clothing/uniform. This made me wonder-> In Vows we see Demona and Goliath break (Demona really broke it, but they were together, Man!) the Phoenix Gate in two in 984 A.D. In 1994 (or is it 1995 by the time we hit Vows?) we notice Goliath still has his half. How/Where did he keep it for ten years until the Massacre? And if he kept it in that pouch we see in the Avalonian Odyssey, did the Gate remain unstone even though (if) it was in the pouch? If not, did it turn to stone for a thousand years? If it did, did it turn to stone daily when Goliath reclaimed the whole Gate in the Avalonian Odyssey? I just find this odd that the Phoenix Gate's journey through time may have involved turning to stone.

Greg responds...

I doubt it turned to stone, though the pouch holding it certainly did.

Response recorded on May 18, 2005

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Phoenician writes...

Dear Greg,
I remember in Awakening Part II when Xanatos asks Owen to bring in the construction crew to transport Castle Wyvern to Manhatten, and Owen replies saying that not only will the cost be "Astronomical," but not many are willing to do it because the locals say Castle Wyvern is Haunted. My question is are the hauntings Owen refers to created by the ghosts of Hakon and the Captain, since as far as I know they may have hovered there for over a thousand years (I think Hakon mentions that himself, but I won't promise to it). If this was asked at some Gathering I wouldn't know since I've never been to one. However I do plan on going to Montreal this coming year! (:

Greg responds...

Did you make it?

Anyway, yes. Hakon and the Captain.

Response recorded on May 17, 2005

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Sahyinepu writes...

I have been watching Gargoyles for some years, and was personally very pleased with how you portrayed the character of Yinepu/Anubis. I was curious why He in particular made the show, while other Names of Netjer did not? Did you plan later to include other Names as well? Also, how difficult did you find it to include religious elements of varying faiths without stepping on toes, in particular of still very much thriving faiths, like Judaism?

Greg responds...

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the "Names of Netjer".

In all cases, whether the religion/faith/mythology was extant like Judaism or archaeic, like Wotenism, we tried to treat the characters and situations with respect and as much accuracy as was possible in the context of a fantasy series. That's the best we could do, and generally, it seemed to work.

Response recorded on May 17, 2005

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Heather writes...

I got a Timedancer question, why the name Katana? Isn't that a bit cheating on names with just naming her after a weapon? Same thing goes with Tachi.

Greg responds...

How is it cheating?

Response recorded on May 16, 2005

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John writes...

Hi Greg,
Well, that dude with who's name you start your awnsers on his with is back... ;)

I HATE out of time questions! ARGH! However, I hope that if this one will reach you, it will still be in time... no wait... that doesn't make sense...

OK, considering Gargoyles will come back, then it is almost clear, that it is "made" by another company. And if you would present to them the ideas to... let's say "Timedancer", and they reject it, would you stick to it, with all the consequences that could bring, or say "Ok, then without."?
Two addittions: First they would of course reject the WHOLE projekt, and second it doesn't have to be Timedancer, just took it since it is kinda moving alongside with the regular series. It also doesn't have to be a Spinoff, it also could be a major storyline they simply hate. Ah, these companys...

THX for awnsering,
CU, John

Greg responds...

What was the question? I'm sorry John, but from sentence one I didn't have a clue as to what you were trying to say.

Response recorded on May 16, 2005


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