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demona writes...

what i ment was S.O.G.(save our gargoyles)? sorry did'nt finish last question

Greg responds...

I got that.

Response recorded on January 26, 2001

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save our gargoyles writes...

hi have u herd of my group S.O.G.?

Greg responds...

Sort of. I think I saw a mention of it in the Comment Room, right?

Response recorded on January 26, 2001

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demona writes...

i herd from someone that there was some consideration for geting the show back on is that true?

Greg responds...

There is no official plan for that at this time. But I have hopes, and I am pursuing those hopes on at least three fronts. One way everyone can help is by attending (or supporting) the annual gargoyles convention: THE GATHERING. This year's convention is in Los Angeles. We have over twenty-five guests scheduled to appear from the cast and crew of the show, including Star Trek's Marina Sirtis (the voice of Demona) as well as the voice actors who portrayed Brooklyn, Owen, Broadway, Lexington, Hudson and Angela, among others. We also have many members of the crew coming. Artists, directors, producers, composer, etc. And we're not done recruiting guests. You really don't want to miss this.

And if our attendance goal of 500 is reached, we'll be bringing current Disney execs to the con, to give them a sense of JUST WHAT they're missing, by not putting Gargoyles back on the air.

Response recorded on January 26, 2001

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John writes...

Hi Greg,
At first, I like to wish you a happy Xmas. Now the question:
If Gargoyles ever gets back (and I hope so), will you get in more things for the older fans, like love scenes and things like that?
CU, John
P.S.: Is it allowed to ramble about The Goliath C`s?

Greg responds...

I suppose it's allowed to ramble about Goliath Chronicles, but I'd prefer you didn't.

As to your question, John, it sorta depends what you mean. If you mean sex scenes, than obviously not. If you mean will we deepen the budding romances between various characters, than yes.

Response recorded on January 26, 2001

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GuardianX writes...

Are there any plans at all to continue Gargoyles? A movie, picked up by another station, has Disney come to its senses?

Also, if the show had continued, what was the direction the Goliath/Elisa thing was going to go?

Thanks!!

Greg responds...

Check the appropriate archives.

Response recorded on December 22, 2000

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demona writes...

GREG DO U THINK if the show would have continued that there would be vmore romance? if so who would be together?

Greg responds...

Always, there is romance.

Anything else would be telling.

Response recorded on December 21, 2000

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JADE writes...

Percent-age wise what's the chace of Gargoyles coming back on the air. Is they do come back will the Gargoyle voices still be the same? Will add any new Gargoyles? If so what might be their names? Would it be a female or a male?

Greg responds...

I see no point in trying to quantify this thing. But down the long haul, I think the odds are good that the show will come back. In the short term, not good at all.

If it comes back and I'm in charge we'll be using as many of the original cast as we feasibly can.

There will be some new characters, I'm sure. A lot depends on what form the bring back comes in.

Response recorded on December 21, 2000

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JADE writes...

Do you have any plans for the future as far as trying to get the Gargoyles back on the air? I mean have you talked to anyone within the last year or so about it? If so or not what do you think the % is of haveing Gargoyles come back on? If they were to come back on would you re-play sesons one and two and make up a new third seson, or keep the third seson the way it was?

Greg responds...

I am working conscientiously toward getting the Gargoyles Universe going again. I'm not in a positition to discuss details at this time. But I'm attacking the problem on multiple fronts with multiple people. (I know this sounds like vague baloney, but it's not.)

As I've mentioned recently, I haven't decided what to do about Goliath Chronicles, but my current leaning (and that's all it is) is to dump those episodes, and use the internet to handle any questions that arise out of that decision.

Response recorded on November 17, 2000

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JADE writes...

Hey Greg!
Um, I was just wondering, I heard a rumor at school that Gargoyles would start back up again of Kids WB, is that true? My freind said she heard it on her T.V., on the Disney Channel---is that true? (I don't have the Disney Channel) I hope so!

Greg responds...

No. Sorry.

Response recorded on November 15, 2000

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demona writes...

just information from the inside i have a clan of my own they are me demona anglia titanya and elisa aney information would help in our quest and i bet u have herd this befor i will not give up i never have given up on aneything in my life and i will not stop now

Greg responds...

Uh, great.

(Was there a question in there?)

Response recorded on November 13, 2000

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John writes...

Hi Greg,
Well, you have understood me wrong in my last question. I`ve ask you about what spin-off you would choose, if there is too less money, and you could only create one. You thought, I meant even to less for one. But I don´t meant that. I meant, there is only enough money for ONE spin-off show. So you could create one with all the voice actors, special efects etc., but only ONE. So, Which one would you choose?
Hope, now you´ve undertsood me.
CU, John

Greg responds...

Yes. Now I understand.

Right now, it feels like the answer is 2198, because I'm immersed in that. But honestly, I don't care. I just want to get back into these characters, this universe. I'll take anyway in that I can get.

Response recorded on November 13, 2000

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John writes...

Hi Greg,
Lets say, you get the show back, but Disney (or whoever got the show then) says, you could only make one of your spinoff shows, because of a verry low budget. Which one would you take?
CU, John
P.S.: Thanks for the awnsering of the question with the Wyvern-Gargoyle.

Greg responds...

Wait... the one spin-off will have a very low budget? So I'm making my decision based on which show would work the best on the least money?

That's not a fun hypothetical even if I liked hypotheticals.

Which I don't. Sorry.

Response recorded on November 10, 2000

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demona writes...

greg do u want to get the show back

Greg responds...

Yes....

Response recorded on November 09, 2000

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Alexandra Freeberg writes...

please let gargoyles be back on the air i will do aney thing e-mail me at avalon@rome.com

Greg responds...

I'd do nearly anything myself. But I don't control the property. Again, Alexandra, if you really want to help than PLEASE attend the GATHERING 2001 in Los Angeles.

Response recorded on November 09, 2000

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John Edward writes...

Hey Greg,...I am a Gargoyles Fan, and i wanna know about some future proyect, you know, like a movie or more Chapters of the serie......Thanx a million

Greg responds...

There's a live-action movie in development at Touchstone Pictures (a division of the Walt Disney Company). I hope to bring the series back in one form or another some day. And I'm working to that end.

The best way you can help is by attending the Gathering 2001 in Los Angeles.

Response recorded on November 09, 2000

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Aaron E. writes...

Thanks for answering all out questions Greg, mine is somewhat production related. I'm not real familiar with the way Disney handles it's licenses, but It's occured me (and perhaps a hundred others I'm sure) that the possibility exist to see if the License for Gargoyles could be sold to another studio, such Warner Brothers, or Paramount. While the inherent dangers exist of production control being in flux, it might be a start to possibly getting Gargoyles back on the air. Any thoughts on that? Thanks :)

Greg responds...

I think it's beyond unlikely.

First off, I doubt Warners would want it. (And Paramount doesn't even have a studio.) But also, Disney doesn't risk letting others be succesful with their animated product. They'd look too foolish.

Response recorded on November 02, 2000

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chris writes...

why don't you make more gargole shows i really enjoyed them please repond at cobra89y@aol.com

Greg responds...

Suddenly, we've got either a whole new set of fans here, or else one person with a lot of aliases.

Anyway, see my last few responses.

Response recorded on October 20, 2000

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Cjay writes...

I was just wondering if you are going to make any more gargoyels its one of my favorite shows please keep making them

Greg responds...

I hope to some day.

Response recorded on October 20, 2000

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Damien writes...

Disney Channel UK has just introduced Toon disney UK and tahat means gargoyles is back on in the UK!!! And instead of being on in the middle of the night, they're showing two episodes a day at 6:00. Who know's with the Friday the 13th gargoyles marathon in America and gargoyles returning to televisions in the UK, that we may someday see new gargoyles episodes on our telvision screens.

Greg responds...

I hope so. Keep the faith, offer praise when Disney does something with the show. And attend the Gathering!!

Response recorded on October 20, 2000

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Selen writes...

im a big fan of yours and i love gargoyles. im begging you to please make more. i get addicted to watching them like when i read Harry Potter books.(BIG compliment)i like mermaids and gargoyles. i wish i could give you a suggestion but i want you to read this. i will never see, ever have any of your merchandise (i do want some though), but i want to tell you that i love the work. keep new gargoyles coming on tv.

Greg responds...

Thanks. Unfortunately, Disney isn't making anymore right now. But some day...

Response recorded on October 20, 2000

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Kelly L Creighton / Kya White Sapphire writes...

i keep hoping that disney will do an all day thing on toon disney of gargs, but im afraid ill miss it. (i dont have TV til i move back in with my parents, next weekend). the thing is theres no way they can fit all the eps, even of season2, in 24 hours. SO:

when we ALL go to G01 is our ONLY focus to be getting gargs back under your belt? or can we fall back on "well if you wont make new eps can we PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE have the second season on tape?"

Greg responds...

We'll take whatever we can get.

Response recorded on September 27, 2000

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The Mighty Thor writes...

Hey just a question that i was thinking about
Why?
With all the talk of starwars (don't worry this question ain't about SW) it made me think, well we all love the original SW-tri. just like we love the 66eps of Gargoyles for us fans it's like a part of culture, well for me it is, and I have read the SW books 80+ and, well SW isn't the same I don't like the idea that Luke, Han, and Leia will grow old and die, latter in the books Chewie dies!!! For some reason I don't want the same thing to happen to Goliath and the trio and Elisa, don't get me wrong but in order to do all this continuing of the story our original cast is gonna grow old and die, personaly I'm glad that the show was stoped, not cuz it was bad, but because it was one of my favorite shows and had great characters and everything, and I don't want to SEE it die.
This probably sounds like sacrliage but I just thought I'd speak my mind. Thanks for your time.

Greg responds...

Not sacrilege at all.

But if you trust me, I think you'll find that it can be wonderful to see characters grow, change, even age, and (in a horrible way) maybe even die, if the deaths seem "right". Plus new characters are always going to be introduced. New characters born. Etc. Kinda like life.

One of the things I'm sure you liked about the first 66 episodes was the way the characters evolved over time and stories. If you liked that, I'm betting you'd like what follows.

Response recorded on September 26, 2000

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Heather N. Allen writes...

When someone mentioned that "Gargoyles" had been reduced to only one episode on Toon Disney, you replied:

"They were showing two as recently as a month ago. Are you sure?"

Well, I'M sure. Sure as heck irritated, too. I think it had to do with them bringing the "Hercules" animated series onto the Toon Disney bandwagon, so they did LOTS of rescheduling. The 'rock block' of Gargs is no more, having been reduced to one ep at 9:30pm CST, and the same ep repeated at 12:30am CST. This especially sucks, since I was just about to start recording them. Now it's gonna take twice as long! :(

Can you suggest anyone in particular to write to in order to get this 'problem' fixed? Edited or not, I want an hour!!

~H\A~

Greg responds...

No. I no longer know anyone there. And I'm not sure it's worth the letter writing campaign. Save your energy. I may need it later.

Response recorded on September 25, 2000

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Greg writes...

Ok, so I'm quite new to this. I'm from South Africa and we only got one season of Gargoyles and then I bought the feature film (Heroes Awaken)That's all I've seen. I love it, they are all brilliant. I was wondering as I always do wether there were any plans to release the series (in full) and all the movies on DVD. Come on, you know you want to!!! mickeyandme@hotmail.com

Greg responds...

I know _I_ want to. Not up to me. The first season was released on video. The movie you rented, plus four other tapes with two episodes each covering all 13 eps of the first season.

But as far as I know, Disney has no current plans to go beyond that. But we're gonna try and change their minds, particularly at this summer's Gathering in L.A. I know South Africa is pretty far away, but how 'bout making a family vacation out of it?

Response recorded on September 21, 2000

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Dracolich writes...

OK, I've spent the last couple of hours hunting through the Bring Gargoyles Back page. I know what is needed to bring the series back. But here's a short-term question. What is the proccess of getting a television channel to air a syndicated show? I say this because I don't have either of the Disney channels, and considering my current standing with my parents, they won't be willing to fork out MORE money for more stations or satellite service. Perhaps a more general-audience channel, like the failing Fox, or maybe even Scifi, would attract a more general audience and increase viewership. So, who do I have to write to?

Greg responds...

The process is very complicated. But going on Fox and/or SciFi wouldn't BE syndicating.

Syndicating, as I understand it, is market by market, making deals with local stations or station groups. That means you might be on Fox in, say, New York. But in Miami you might be on the WB, and in Dallas UPN. While in L.A. you might be on an unaffiliated independent station.

Syndication is almost dead for kids programming however because Fox, WB and UPN ate up most of the independent stations and station groups. Today's syndicators have a devil of a time "clearing" stations (i.e. getting stations) in a high enough percentage of the country to make the show financially worth pursuing.

Disney currently has five or six distribution outlets for their tv animation.

1. ABC Saturday Morning.

2. UPN Afternoons. (They have a deal with UPN, at least for the time being. In part this came out of the fact that Disney TV Animation was run for a time by Dean Valentine, who then left to become the boss at UPN.)

3. Disney Channel.

4. Toon Disney. They don't currently have the budget for original programming, though that could change over time. And they will be the U.S. home for the new TARZAN series. But they didn't pay the big bills for that.

5. Foreign. Markets outside the U.S. have slightly different wants. They loved Aladdin. I hear gargoyles did fairly well. They payed the bulk of the tab for Tarzan.

6. Home Video.

It is highly unlikely that Disney would sell an animated series to either Fox or SciFi. (Especially Fox.)

Response recorded on September 21, 2000

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Lexy writes...

Hey Greg:)

If "Gargoyles" ever comes back on the air (new ep's I mean) what do you think would be a good way with dealing with the time loss? IE: Gargs was doing a fair job of fallowing OUR universes time line. Is that 'universe' currently frozen time wise? Example: We get new ep's of 'Gargoyles' in 2002..would it still be 1996 on the show?

probably a dumb Q..I doubt you would skip all that time..but still

Lexy ^-^V

Greg responds...

Most likely, on the air, I would just set it in a vague "contemporary" time. But on the internet, I'd let the fans know it was still 1996, at first. Then quickly, much more quickly than we went back then, I'd bring us up to a truly contemporaneous time. Most of the audience wouldn't know, notice or care. The Fandom would be given the inside scoop on the net. By the end of the First-Season-Back, we'd be back to being in step (more-or-less) with the airdates.

At any rate, that's my current plan.

The net frees me up to do things, that I wouldn't have thought possible four years ago.

Response recorded on September 09, 2000

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Spells writes...

Hey Greg,

are you planning to make any new eps?

Greg responds...

Yes.

But you might check the archive here "Bringing Gargoyles Back" for a more complete answer.

Response recorded on September 09, 2000

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Demona Taina writes...

This is a question, and a ramble as well. :)

If the show comes back on the air, will it have the same title? Would the show be called "Gargoyles" or end up with another title just like, dare I say, "Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles"?

I hope it is titled "Gargoyles." Most of the shows that are renamed for reasons unknown to me, end up with idiotic titles that include the word "adventure" in one way or another. Those kinds of titles make the show look idiotic, or simply for kids, even if the show is good.

For example, "The New Batman/Superman Adventures." It deals with lunatics, with a dark city, but the title makes it look childish, like it was meant for kids only and not for young adults as well.

Yes, the dreaded word in titles: "adventure." Every time I see that word in a title I cringe. I don't know why, I just do.

There are also other words that can make a show look childish. Such as: "new," "fantastic," and of course, the word "man" after an adjetive, verb or noun. "Batman," "Superman," "Iron Man," "Spider Man," "X-Men".. I could go on and on.

I like shows with short titles; titles that get to the point and are easy to write. And not only shows, but with fanfics, even artists.

If I can't come up with a one-word title for something, I always try to shorten it to two words. Strong, dramatic words that explain the whole thing. :)

There was, and I think there still is, a show on Kids WB with the longest name of them all. "The Cat and Birdy Warneroonie Pinky Brainy Big Cartoony Show." Or something close to that. I think they changed it later on to "Cat and Bunny Superloonie Pinky Brainy Big Cartoony." It was so confusing..

I admit it was amusing to hear those characters sing that name over and over again, along with the little rhymes, but it gets old quickly, doesn't it?

Long words, along with titles, can, at times, be fun. For example, Mary Poppin's Supercalifragilisticespialidocious. :) I used to sing along with her and her friends. Just that word, over and over again. I could never sing the rest of the song, because, well, my English wasn't good enough to understand the whole thing. [laughs]

Back to "Gargoyles." Short title, and it goes right to the point. Not to mention that the word "gargoyle" alone sounds very dramatic and gothic, just like the show itself. :)

Ooh, I'm rambling. Well, back to the questions. :)

1) Will Gargoyles have the same title if it comes back on the air?

2) And if it doesn't, will it have a dramatic and short title?

3) If not, will it have the word "ADVENTURE" on it? [prays that you say yes to #2]

I think odyssey is the best replacement there is for the word "adventure," but that's just me. :)

Anyway, thank you for your time, Greg. :)

Greg responds...

1. Obviously, there's no way for me to know that now. But assuming we're not doing a spin-off series, that would be my first choice. As I'm sure you know, I'm fond of one word titles myself. (Although, I hope I'm not quite as rigid about it.)

2. No, a flacid paragraph.

3. That was sarcasm up in two.

Response recorded on September 09, 2000

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DarkElf writes...

Will Gargoyles Ever Return either to TV or to Video?

Greg responds...

I hope so.

Response recorded on September 09, 2000

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aXvXia writes...

*hope you enjoyed the gathering cause i couldnt go! poop!*

I know what you're thinking, mr. weisman: "NOo! Not another August 7th post! I'm just one man, dammit!" i totally sympathize with you, but i just have to ask:

**How much money (on average) would you say it took to produce an average episode of gargoyles with the normal character cast having speaking parts??
I just wanted to know, cause i know alot of people who would, if they knew where to send it, give money to see GARGOYLES back on the air.

Thanks for your time and efforts Mr.Weisman, and if there is anything you need for me to do for you (posts,etc) just say so in your answering post.

Greg responds...

You mean just the voice recording or the entire episode?

If the latter, it cost just under half a million dollars per episode.

Response recorded on August 23, 2000

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Laura 'ad astra' Ackerman writes...

It is so nice to see my own questions answered. Especially when I know I posted my first few in a rather large batch and should have more to look forward to shortly. Thank you.

In answer to my question you wrote- "I haven't given up in any way, shape or form. I'm still in there trying to come up with ways to bring the show back in some, well, way, shape or form. In fact, I've got a new nefarious plan in the works now with Doug Murphy, a former GARGOYLES (and BAD GUYS) storyboard artist. Too soon to talk about now, but give me time."

Well I certainly hadn't thought you had given up- just that you didn't have much in the way of hope. I am glad neither is true. And as or evil and/or nefarious plans… well those are always good. As soon as you are willing to share them I am ready and willing to hear them.

As you said, the fans have not given up either. I wish I could go to the convention. There is only the very slimmest chance. I would have said no chance, but dangling guest artists in front of me is a real temptation. Still, I will start informing the Dreamer Clan, (and anyone who might listen), about the importance of the LA con.

Greg responds...

I have (at minimum) a three-tiered plan right now.

The main way you guys can help is -- here he goes again -- by attending the GATHERING 2001 in Los Angeles next summer.

But I also have two other things in the works that I hope to unveil between now and then. Or at the latest at the convention itself.

Response recorded on August 21, 2000

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Abigail Thorne writes...

Your posts of the Episode Memos (which are unbearably cool, in my humble opinion) got me thinking about something. You know how some shows have episode guide books that include plot summaries, behind-the-scenes info, bloopers, cast interviews, favorite scenes/quotes, and tons of trivia (for example, the various Star Trek series, The X-Files, and the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Watcher Guide)? Have you ever considered publishing an episode guide for "Gargoyles"? If it sold well, Disney might consider reviving the series. Just a thought.

Greg responds...

I'd love to. Do you know any publishers who might be interested? (Cuz unfortunately, I don't.)

Response recorded on August 21, 2000

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Brandon Hardy writes...

Could you tell me some way to contact disney in some way I'm trying my hardest to support the show because i have high hopes of gettihg back on. Thank you

Greg responds...

Again, at this point, the best way to support the show and get it back on the air is to attend the GATHERING 2001 in Los Angeles next summer. Bring friends. Particularly friends with kids. But TONS of people are the best way for us to show the execs that the show needs to be revived.

Response recorded on August 21, 2000

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mike writes...

hi i love gargoyles and really want to see new episodes and was really looking forward to new episodes please if in the near future would you ever think about new episodes??? because i know that it's on toon disney but please ???

Greg responds...

Not really up to me. But if you want to see New episodes, the best thing you can do is to show up at the GATHERING 2001 in Los Angeles next summer. If we get enough people, we'll bring Disney execs and show them what they're missing.

Response recorded on August 21, 2000

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Damien writes...

I've just recently gotten into Gargoyles and love it so far, especially Demona. I have to say that I really feel sorry for the way she's been treated by humans in the past and it explains her behaviour when she meets Goliath again.
I loved the animation, even 'Enter Macbeth' wasn't that bad (the storyline compensates for the animation I suppose).
I'd have to say that the overall concept (good monsters fighting evil) was aimed at kids. But the individul
episodes, plots and storylines (including Shakespeare characters and plays) attracted an older audience.
I love the idea of the interspecies romance between Elisa and Goliath. It brings the two races together. This also probably attracted an older audience. If gargoyles was ever revived on television again, would you consider putting it on a channel that more adults watched? It might help the ratings of the show.
I was disappointed to learn that the I was watching re-runs of the show.
I can't wait to see the movie and I'm sure it will encourage Disney to revive the show again.

Greg responds...

I'd put the show on whatever channel would take it, frankly.

Response recorded on August 19, 2000

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Anonymous writes...

Comment for thought: When I went to some "The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest" sites, I saw a note that the producers had sent to answer questions about how they linked the '90's version to the 70's version of the show. The new writers stated that they, being big Quest fanatics, had looked over the old series, the 80's series, and two movies. They decided that the two movies and 80's series didn't conform to the 70's series so they said that the movies and 80's series would be nice fiction but, as far as they were concerned, never existed. If and when you ever bring "Gargoyles" back, you could just say that TGC were nice episodes but they had nothing to do with "Gargoyles" and you can start from where you left off.

Greg responds...

I'm leaning toward not including those 12 episodes in the canon, and if necessary, using the internet to explain.

But it won't be my decision alone, unfortunately.

Response recorded on August 02, 2000

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Phil (repost by Aris) writes...

Greg, thanks for your time.

I'd like to offer my treatise on the status of Disney TV animation. As a former development exec you're uniquely qualified to comment on my thoughts. This can go under the category: Bringing Gargoyles Back.

First let me say that I became a Gargoyles fan because I was already a Disney fan. I enjoyed almost everything on the Disney Afternoon: Gummi Bears, Tale Spin, Aladdin, etc. (My friends joke that if Pokemon were renamed Disney's Pokemon I'd love that too.)

Although Disney's acquisition of Captial Cities/ABC was a great move for the company as a whole, it was a blow to the creativity level of TV animation. After its first eclectic year of finishing off projects in progress, Disney's Saturday morning lineup hit its stride with "One Saturday Morning." An entire line-up of cartoons on a single theme: pre-teens in school.

I really enjoyed Doug, Recess, and Pepper Ann at first. Now, however, in their third (Doug's fourth) seasons, it's getting a little redundant. Even last week's premier of a new show, The Weekenders, was somewhat familiar. Disney's syndicated series (formerly Disney Afternoon, now Disney's One Too) are also the same ones we see on Saturday.

This doesn't bode well for the return of Gargoyles. Unless your Dark Ages spinoff focuses on the trio as kids, it just doesn't fit into the precast mold. What's a Gargoyles fan to do? Barring Saturday morning and syndication, I see two other alternatives.

First, the hour-long prime-time drama. This is an intriguing and exciting idea. Something new and different. A recent USA Today interview with Bob Iger (Disney's new president) vaunted his support for new and different ideas. A dramatic cartoon, however, may be a little too different.

A second obstacle to the prime-time drama idea is the change in audience. Goliath's clan would require too much review and explanation to get a new audience up to speed. Perhaps one of the spin-offs that doesn't have as much pre-established history would work in this format (Pendragon, New Olympians).

That leaves only one viable option for the Manhattan clan: Toon Disney. The Disney Channel started its sister operation over a year ago to compete with the Cartoon Network owned by AOL / Time / Warner / Turner / Hanna-Barbera / etc. (PS: How does that compare to Xanatos's conglomeration? Sorry. Separate question, separate post.)

There is one primary difference between Cartoon Network and Toon Disney: original programming. As much as I like Gummi Bears, DuckTales, Tale Spin, etc., a man can only watch so many reruns. I see this as an excellent outlet for pent up creativity in the Disney TV animation department. They could go beyond the cookie cutter Saturday shows and direct-to-video movie sequels and do new and different things with less risk, since Toon Disney does't rely on advertising.

Toon Disney could ovbiously benefit from a little corporate attention. Their decision not to show "Deadly Force" tells me that there's not a lot of thought going into programming. Whatever is gathering dust in the Disney and DIC vaults is put on the air as long as it's appropriate for little kids, according to some clerk.

It is my conclusion that the best bet for bringing back Gargoyles is Toon Disney, but only if the Company is seriously interested in making it a competitive challenger to the Cartoon Network and not just a dumping ground for old programs.

This turned out to be a longer ramble than I expected, but thanks again for your time, Greg.

Greg responds...

Toon Disney, as far as I know right now, does not have the budget to make new episodes of ANYTHING.

And I don't see anyone making an hour primetime animated drama anytime soon.

So in the short term, neither of your suggestions seems viable.

But I'm in this for the long haul. And over time, things change. Syndication is dismal, but ABC's Saturday Morning could shake up. Once upon a time, the Disney Channel had no budget for original programming either. Now they do. They currently aren't interested in Gargoyles. (I know. I asked.) But that could change in a year or two. (And if the live-action movie comes out, it could change overnight.) And some day, Toon Disney could get the money to make something.

Even the primetime arena could change.

And tv is no longer our only resource.

So don't give up. Four years ago, I warned everyone that bringing GARGOYLES back had become a long-term quest. So far most of you have stuck with me. Stick it out a few years longer. I really do think your loyalty will pay off.

Response recorded on August 01, 2000

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M.A.Heath writes...

Are you and Buena Vista gonna keep the Gargoyle series alive
or is this it?

Greg responds...

It's not really up to me. I don't currently work for Disney/Buena Vista. But I hope to someday manage to bring Gargoyles back.

(No one ever reads the archives.)

Response recorded on July 30, 2000

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Matt writes...

will there be more gargoyle shows?

Greg responds...

I sure hope so.

Response recorded on July 29, 2000

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joe c. writes...

I would like to know when will the "Gargoyles" series be on tv again.

Greg responds...

So would I.

Response recorded on July 26, 2000

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Cyberwolf writes...

I dont know if any body knows this but DVD Animania has aGargoyles petition going on, right now they have about 220 signatures. If were ever going to see any gargoyles dvd's theyre going to need a lot more so please help.

Greg responds...

Uh, a link might have helped.

But thanks for helping me spread the word. Everybody, please, sign up!!

Response recorded on July 24, 2000

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Laura aka 'ad astra' writes...

Glad to see Ask Greg running again! I had downloaded the old archives, (or most of them) sometime last year. I checked periodically and it seemed the page was down. I gave up on the Ask Greg page and only checked it again on a lark. It took me weeks to read through everything!

Oh, a question-

You seem to have a much more optimistic view on the series coming back then when last I checked in. Has something changed? To be more precise- Before you seemed to say "long shot at best for the series in any form, even the live action movie seems dead". Now the movie doesn't sound dead, and the long term revival hopes good, (lost the quote, sorry). I am much heartened, and almost as curious.

I have many more questions to follow, but for now I want to say thank you for doing this, and thanks to Gorebash for running it.

Greg responds...

The movie isn't a lost cause. It hasn't progressed an inch really, but normally after this much time that would result in its death. They'd give up. But they absolutely haven't given up. In fact, they've just hired a NEW writer. Touchstone/Disney REALLY, REALLY wants to make this movie. So that keeps me optimistic. (And the success of X-Men doesn't hurt either.)

I don't love that Toon Disney is editing episodes and refuses to air "Deadly Force". But they ARE airing the show about twice a day. That gives me hope.

I haven't given up in any way, shape or form. I'm still in there trying to come up with ways to bring the show back in some, well, way, shape or form. In fact, I've got a new nefarious plan in the works now with Doug Murphy, a former GARGOYLES (and BAD GUYS) storyboard artist. Too soon to talk about now, but give me time.

The response here at ASK GREG is overwhelming. That means fan interest still exists. And I'm VERY heartened by the continuing success of the GATHERINGS. That gives me hope.

In fact, people ask me what they can do to help bring the show back, and what has become clear to me is that the best single way a fan can help is by attending one or more GATHERINGS. Aside from the sheer FUN FACTOR of the convention, it is the raw numbers in attendance that will help me prove to the powers that be at Disney that the show is still viable and ready to return. Come to Orlando next month. PLEASE. It's gonna be GREAT. Guests include myself, Thom Adcox, Brad Rader and Greg Guler.

And without doubt, plan to come to next years GATHERING in Los Angeles. I guarantee we will have over twenty members of the cast and crew in attendance. And if the fan attendance numbers are big enough, we will bring Disney Execs and show them first hand the opportunity they are missing out on. Do NOT MISS THAT ONE if you want to see the show back on the air.

Response recorded on July 18, 2000

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Bubbles writes...

Hey I'm a realy big fan of Gargoyles and I have two questions.
1. I was just wondering if it were true that there is a Gargoyle movie being made?

2. Do you think that Disney or who ever will ever ask you and your crew to make Gargoyles again?

Thanks for you time!

Greg responds...

1. Yes. It's in development at Touchstone pictures. They have a new writer, Simon Kinberg, who should turn in a first draft script in October.

2. I hope so. I think so too.

Response recorded on July 17, 2000

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Jade writes...

Dear Greg,
Thank you so much for responing to my Q's. It really made me feel a lot better to know that my Q's were going to the right place. I've wacthed a few of your Max Steel shows. I think it'll be a great show. But any way on to the Q's.
1. I've looked along the archives and didn't find this question, so here it goes. Is there any way to get the show back up? I've tryed every thing I could thank of! I wrote tons of letters to Buena Vista, and at first they were nice about it then on my, oh I don't know, my tenth letter? They wrote back telling me NOT TO WRITE THEM AGAIN, can you belive that I can't. I've even called Walt Disney, and what about that they put me on hold forever! Okay that felt good getting that of my chest. Anyway if you lost the question it my "ramblings" here it is:

1. Is there any way to get the show back up?
And please don't tell me to look at the archives again. I did't want that to sound rude but it came out rude, sorry.

Greg responds...

1. Uh, did you look at the archive marked "BRINGING GARGOYLES BACK"? I mean I know you asked me not to send you to the archives, but you couldn't have looked very hard. There's an ENTIRE category where I've answered almost every variation of this question.

THe short answer is ATTEND the next two Gatherings. The one in Orlando next month and the one in Los Angeles in the summer of 2001. The best way to get the show back is to prove to Disney that the fandom is huge, intense and ready to spend money on the show. Attend the Gatherings and get as many of your friends to attend with you as possible.

Response recorded on July 11, 2000

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Blaise writes...

An addendum to my thoughts on DEADLY FORCE:

I share your anger and dismay that Toon Disney is being so small-minded about this. Maybe now's the time to mention something I posted here earlier but was lost in one of the MUCH earlier "no questions in the queue" (sp?) glitch.
I have compiled a list of many of Toon Disney's edits to "Gargoyles" so that I may write a letter protesting each of them. Unfortunately, I don't have the address. Where do I send this letter?

Also, do you think it would be a good idea to use "hot-button" words, such as "offensive" (ie, "I find your edits offensive")?
Thanks!

Greg responds...

I don't have the address, but it can't be that hard to find. Have you looked in TV GUIDE? Or for that matter, on the net?

As for "offensive", it depends on your context, I guess. If you say something like, "I'm sure you're making these edits because you're afraid to offend some people. But I actually find the edits themselves offensive." Then it's probably all right. But I'd tend to keep the "dialogue" professional. NOT CONFRONTATIONAL. They'll just respond better. If you can make the point that not airing DEADLY FORCE is wrong-headed, and clearly explain why, it wouldn't hurt.

Response recorded on July 10, 2000

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Padraic Dewey writes...

Greg -- I notice you had (almost) nothing to do with THE GOLIATH CHRONICLES. May I commend you on your good fortune? I found TGC to be nauseatingly preachy, simplistic, and heavy-handed. (Yes, I'm aware those terms overlap.) On with the questions:

1) Anything in the works for you now? I like your style, and would love to see more of it.
2) Since Toon Disney is now airing Gargoyles and TGC, are you aware of any (remote as may be) possibility of more shows being produced? Doubtful (as ALL get out), I know, but I figured...

Greg responds...

1. I'm basically unemployed at the moment, except for a teaching gig through UCLA EXTENSION. I've been working on a live-action screenplay with my brother on spec. Otherwise, I've gone to a lot of meetings. But nothing's happened yet.
2. Not in the short term.

Response recorded on July 10, 2000

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Carissa writes...

Hey Greg,

I love the gargoyles and I realy miss them. I havent missed a day of them since I found out the were on toon disney. I just want to ask if Gargoyles on a scale between 1-10, 10 being the highest, will be coming back anytime in the near future?
And what's this talk of the gargoyle movie?
Please write back thanks.

Greg responds...

Define "near" future? Like in the next couple years. I'd give it a zero chance. Cuz it ain't in production and it takes time to launch (or relaunch) any show. If you mean sometime, than I think the chances go up to eight or so.

Touchstone is developing a live action film based on the gargoyles. They've been at it for years. They haven't given up. But they haven't put it into production either.

Response recorded on June 29, 2000

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Stephen R. "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. writes...

Greetings Greg!

To reply to you answer on my "Max Steel" question on 2-23-200:

Some time ago - around mid-1980's or so - Tonka (or Mattel) released a toy line called "Max Steel's Robo-Force"; basicly a series of cylindrical, claw-armed robots whose major gimick was you could attach them to any flat surface via a suction-cup. They had good guys and bad guys, and I assumed there was to be a show made for them, but the toy line never really took off. (This was during the time when shows like "Transformers", "GoBots" and the like were very popular.)

Now for a question:

If you've ever read the book "Planet X" (a Star Trek:TNG/X-Men crossover novel) then you should understand this query: If you ever got around to writing novels or making a graphic novel with Gargoyles in it, would you ever consider doing a crossover story that pits the Gargoyles with another group of characters from another licensed universe of characters (with the creator's permission of course)?

P.S. - Here's to seeing you in Orlando (if I'm lucky enough to get down there). Maintain and Check Six!

Greg responds...

Hey, Stephen, hope to see you right back.

I've never read Planet X. Frankly, it sounds awful. I can't think of two universes less suitable for crossover than Trek and X-Men. As for whether I'd consider it... the answer is maybe. First, I'd love the chance just to be doing garg stuff sans crossovers. (I've got enough ideas to crossover on my own, including New Olympians, Bad Guys, Pendragon, etc.) Then it would depend on what universe exactly we were trying to cross with. Some might be good fits. Some would not. Then the method of crossover would matter too.

As for Max Steel, it sounds like that's where Mattel got access to the name. Nothing else similar. And I'd never heard of it.

Response recorded on June 21, 2000

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Tigris Euphrates writes...

Forgive me if someone's asked this before...
I enjoy writing fanfiction, and I've had lot of my voluminous writing printed and shared them with friends. They're all encouraging me to try and get it published. What is Disney/ABC/whoever's policy about publishing fan writing. I know Paramount makes a KILLING on it - every bookstore these days has a whole section for fanfiction in print. I know I'm not the only die-hard GARGOYLES fanwriter who'd like to submit their work for printing, too. It also makes sense to try and bolster public interest in the show until the movie is released and whatever other plans are in the making (if any) for GARGOYLES. Where would recommend we start looking?
(http://gargoyles.web.com - Ladyartemis@cybergal.com)

Greg responds...

Hey, you tell me! If Disney is interested in printing original Gargoyle stories, I hope they come to me first. (Which puts us in competition, I guess.) As far as I know, however, there is no interest currently.

Also, I don't think that what you see on bookshelves is STAR TREK "fanfiction". Though it may seem like it, these are all books written by "professional writers" commisioned by Paramount and/or its licensees. By definition, that ain't fanfiction.

Response recorded on June 20, 2000

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Vashkoda writes...

Hi Greg! You've previously mentioned having big plans for the clones that extended to 2158 and beyond, and today you confirmed that some would have children. 1) When you mentioned having plans that extended far into the future, did you mean the present clones or their children? 2) If it's the former, how would they survive that long? 3) Are the clones' children going to remain a separate clan, or will they merge into other clans? 4) Are you going to try to completely nullify what TGC did to the clones, or have you incorporated it into your future plans for them? 5a) Do you have any plans for moving the clones out of the Labyrinth? 5b) If so, where will they move to and why? 6) Will the clones be able to produce genetically normal gargoyle offspring? 7) If you've given this any thought, would the offspring have a parent clone's backwards-coloring or that of the gargoyle one or either of the parents was cloned from? 8) What was Elisa's reaction to finding out she had a clone? 9) If Delilah has a child, how would Elisa react to it?

Greg responds...

1. I'm not sure I understand the question...

2. See the answer to 4.

3. I can't answer this while the clan contest is ongoing.

4. Honestly, I haven't decided yet. Though I didn't care for the episode, it's absolutely one of the easiest to fix. Seems to me the clones could wake up at any time. So if the series came back in the present, I could wake them then. Or I could wake them anytime before 2158. But I figure with Goliath Chronicles it's going to be an all or nothing thing. So I can't make this specific decision in a vacuum. Right now, I'm leaning toward ignoring all post-Journey continuity. But I haven't made -- and probably can't make -- a final decision until I know in what form the series will resurface.

5a. See the answer to 3.

5b. Ditto.

6. Sure.

7. Being color-blind, it's not the first thing I think about.

8. On the surface, she was annoyed with Demona and Thailog, but open to being friends with Delilah. (She had seen the effect Goliath's harsh reaction had with Thailog.) Underneath that think the whole thing made her anxious. I do not think as of "The Journey" she had as yet gone down to meet Delilah.

9. Whoah, you're getting ahead of yourself...

Response recorded on June 20, 2000


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