Rebel - <Just working on a huge-ass paper about the Yucatan peninsula, as part of a directed study thing that will allow me to complete my Spanish minor.> Interesting. You have to do a paper to get a Spanish minor? I guess I'm glad that I never got far along when I was pursuing a Spanish minor.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 11:27:08 pm EDT from 98.20.134.85

I'm not doing anything fun. Just working on a huge-ass paper about the Yucatan peninsula, as part of a directed study thing that will allow me to complete my Spanish minor. I'm leaving for Merida on June 7th.
Rebel
GOLIATH: I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SHAKESPEAREAN NOW.
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 11:19:03 pm EDT from 216.45.251.210

Spen> Sure.

Mochi> Cool.

Bagpipes5K> Looking forward to it.
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 10:04:44 pm EDT from 70.15.84.29

I looked up some stuff about animals used in heraldry and started drawing a wolf-headed garg (similar to how Staghart has a stag's head) :) Still in the penciling stage but will post it when I've got a more finished pic.
Bagpipes5K - [bagpipes5k2 at sbcglobal dot net]
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 6:17:51 pm EDT from 75.42.214.105

Tomorrow, I'm backing up a lot of stuff on my computer... This thing needs to be reformatted badly... <.<''
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>^^)> Out from under the cookie table with #8, BG #2, #3 and TPB in hand...and I finished reading through all of them!!
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 5:01:10 pm EDT from 72.199.224.230

Tony : Does mowing the lawn count?
Spen
"Come along. You belong. Feel the fizz."
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 4:03:19 pm EDT from 66.43.205.110

I vote for a change of subject.

Everyone have off for Memorial Day tomorrow? Anyone doing anything special tomorrow?
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 2:06:19 pm EDT from 70.15.84.29

Vote or Don't!



Ron Paul for President...
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 10:43:05 am EDT from 70.237.249.216

VOTE QUIMBY!

33 days left until The Gathering 2008 in Chicago, Illinois!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 9:08:54 am EDT from 99.163.157.147

Venus ag Gargwiki would like to edit.
Venus - [marknharris at gmail dot com]
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 12:05:02 am EDT from 67.187.26.29

No offense, but my vote will be cast for Bruce Campbell
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
Shiela: "You found me beautiful once." Ash: "Honey, you got real ugly." (Army of Darkness")
posted @ Sun, May 25, 2008 12:00:00 am EDT from 76.123.52.7

I'll vote for you too.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, You will find the same man going back on this a moment later."--C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 10:06:13 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

SIREN> I am voting for....

Myself.

Bishansky 2008
"Suck it, Putin!"
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 8:43:16 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

I am doing a write in for Harvey Dent. No matter who you all vote for, they all are two-faced anyways. Least Harvey is honest about it!
Siren
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 8:41:11 pm EDT from 72.188.137.207

I meant isn't a gargoyle instead of is a gargoyle.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 4:41:26 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

**Ask Greg related**

Todd, please tell me that you can quote the answer for this question:

Chip writes...
I was just curious...is there anything that happens on the Gargoyles Timeline on March 23 (of any year)?


Enterprise writes...
I know you been asked this before but dose disney have a say so or the rights in weather a film could be made out of this spectaculer series
**ENd Ask Greg related**

**Bg #3 Spoilers**
My Review of Bad Guys Issue #3
I loved seeing the battle continue in the present and am looking forward to learning how we got to that point. Matrix attaching himself to Dingo is always interesting.

Then, we flash back to two weeks ago in Paris, where the team has been training for a month. Dingo's right, the team wasn't exactly slackers, but on the other hand, I have to wonder how much dependency Dingo had placed on Matrix in battle. I appreciate the use of the different font for Matrix's speech. It seems appropriate in its own way. It's interesting to see the depth of emotion in the memory of Hunter. Despite being black & white, I clearly see and feel the emotions in the expressions of the Canmore children following the defeat of their father. Seeing them head into the catacombs after Demona makes sense and I am looking forward to seeing how that confrontation ended. It's nice to see that Dingo has done his homework and learned that he's not the only one who has to be careful in New York, New York. The team landing on top of a hotel is again laying more pipework for how connected Hunter's boss really is. It's nice to see the briefing on Sevarius and confirmation on Sevarius's activities. I'm beginning to suspect that Hunter's boss is no ordinary person. All the info that Hunter has repeated from her boss leads me to the conclusion that the boss belongs to the one of the most exclusive groups on the entire planet. I confess that I never really thought Sevarius raising capital to achieve some end. It's nice to see what the team is doing on their time off. That Robyn Canmore could get inside a prison without anyone going after her says a lot about her boss. One would think all the staff around Jason would have committed to memory the face of his siblings for future purposes. I appreciate the humor in the names of the player in hockey game, even though only one name caught my eye right away. That both Jason and Robyn recognized Jon right away makes me wonder how Jon Canmore is going to stay out of jail. Robyn's confrontation with Jon was interesting and makes me wonder if she's ever going to report Jon Castaway's little secret to her boss. I'm a little surprised to see that Dingo and Matrix left early to go after Sevarius on their own. I wonder if Robyn Canmore will be able to see that what she encountered is a gargoyle but a mutate.
End Review

What if Robyn didn't encounter Fang, but instead Claw?
**End Spoilers**
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 4:40:20 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

Personally, I'd vote for one of these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdYtWiT1pJo

That, or Kodos.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"Everyone decides their own fate, no matter where they're born. Words like fate, karma... it's all just an excuse for giving up if you ask me." -Snake ("Metal Gear Solid")
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 4:18:35 pm EDT from 76.123.52.7

That's weevils, the lesser of two weevils. *swats at bugs*
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, You will find the same man going back on this a moment later."--C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 4:01:29 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

Personally I still can't decide whether I'm going to support Voldemort or Cthulhu this November.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like elections these days are always making you choose between the lesser of two evils...;)
Rebel
GOLIATH: I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SHAKESPEAREAN NOW.
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 3:53:14 pm EDT from 216.45.251.210

Sorry for the Double post...but I decided my new quote was FAR too long, even though that is my all-time favorite quote.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, You will find the same man going back on this a moment later."--C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 3:38:43 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

Um...okay that was weird.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"One word. All you've been saying is quite right, I shouldn't wonder. I'm a chap who always liked to know the worst and then put the best face I can on it. So I won't deny any of what you said. But there's one thing more to be said, even so. Suppose we have only dreamed, or made up, all those things - trees and grass and sun and moon and stars and Aslan himself. Suppose we have. Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones. Suppose this black pit of a kingdom of yours is the only world. Well, it strikes me as a pretty poor one. And that's a funny thing, when you come to think of it. We're just babies making up a game, if you're right. But four babies playing a game can make a play-world which licks your real world hollow. That's why I'm going to stand by the play world. --Puddleglum, From 'The Silver Chair' by C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 3:33:40 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

RE: Poltics

If America is really looking for a brighter future, then there is really only one man to lead the way...

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/21625/A_Message_From_Cobra_Commander.html?videoCategory_key=8
Algernon
"I'm Cobra Commander and I approve this message" - Cobra Commander
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 3:28:48 pm EDT from 86.41.192.220

Greg> Touche. (you made me laugh out loud):)
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 2:37:27 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

Democrats and Republicans are both idiots. Vote Libertarian.

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 2:15:37 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Rebel & Matt> you are right...we don't know the whole story and this is the last thing I shall say on the subject.

Algernon> Because if we didn't, Demecrats would be the only ones with any power. (Cheap shot, couldn't resist--that's enough politics, which have no place here)
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:49:46 pm EDT from 64.105.104.177

Spen> "I'm a Republican, we don't believe that government ever solves anything"

Then why do you all want to run it so badly?
Algernon
"Nobody can say I wasn't a perfect father, do you hear..? Nobody !" - Norman Osborn
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 8:42:39 am EDT from 86.41.192.220

No new Spectacular Spider-Man tomorrow, but here's a commercial for the new episode next Saturday.

http://www.cw4kids.com/home

Electro, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, Sandman and Dr. Octopus... sounds sinister.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 4:31:57 am EDT from 75.56.245.4

I agree with Matt. Spen obviously has his reasons for staying at his current job...I'm sure he knows his own life better than the rest of us. It would be great if his boss was more understanding, but the hullabaloo of getting the law involved, pissing off his boss, and potentially having to look for a new job probably means that fighting for vacation time is more trouble than it's worth.

And I don't think the "Republican" crack should be taken too seriously...it was a playful attempt at self-deprecating humor and was probably not intended to piss off any other Republicans. I don't think he meant to criticize other Republicans; he was just making a joke about himself.
Rebel
GOLIATH: I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SHAKESPEAREAN NOW.
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 3:50:43 am EDT from 216.45.251.210

Finally~! I can come out from under the cookie table! I managed to purchase #8 (the last copy left on the shelf), BG #2 and #3, along with the TPB...all simultaneously~! By the end of this long holiday weekend I should be all caught up! Now I'll be able to see the London clan!
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>^0^)> Out from under the cookie table with #8, BG #2, #3 and TPB in hand...
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:53:55 am EDT from 72.199.224.230

Hey, we don't know all the facts behind Spen's employment and besides, it is his life. So, can we let it drop? Geeez.
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:51:15 am EDT from 70.237.249.216

Hey, Spen. Contact them:

http://www.osha.gov/
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:48:37 am EDT from 75.56.245.4

Indy 4> Space aliens?!

I'm definitely not going to see it at this point. Jesus Christ.
KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra_582 at hotmail dot com]
Grr. Arg.
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:43:38 am EDT from 99.168.73.239

Wow. Just got home from Indiana Jones. Yikes. One of the worst movies I have ever seen. I feel so embarrased for Harrison Ford. Spielberg and Lucas need to be shot. I honestly don't think I could ever go to one of their movies ever again. This makes the Star Wars prequels look really, really good. Yikes.
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 1:18:12 am EDT from 70.237.249.216

Just got back from the movie. What the hell? George Lucas already tainted Star Wars, I guess he won't be satisfied until anything decent that has his name associated with it has been dragged into the abyss of suckiness.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"Everyone decides their own fate, no matter where they're born. Words like fate, karma... it's all just an excuse for giving up if you ask me." -Snake ("Metal Gear Solid")
posted @ Sat, May 24, 2008 12:30:19 am EDT from 76.123.52.7

Spen> Since when does your political preference have to do with the situation at hand. Your vacation time is supposed to be YOURS to do with what you like. I'm a Republican too (well...more in between, but leaning to the Right). That doesn't mean that I'm going to let some *ahem* narrow-minded idiot tell me what I can and cannot do in MY vacation time. It's mine...and perhaps you're in the wrong vocation if your boss is that much of a controll freak.

Matt> when I was picking up my BG#3 I skimmed through the Indiana Jones 4 comic adaptation...I am sorry to say that yes...it does center on Space Aliens. My least favorite plot device...ugh. I think I'll wait for the DVD release on this one thank you very much.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 10:42:25 pm EDT from 68.164.3.131

Matt> They are not kidding.
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 9:24:49 pm EDT from 70.15.84.29

I'm off to see Indiana Jones tonight as well. I have not heard good things. Someone told me there are space aliens in it. Geeez, I hope they were kidding.
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 7:39:59 pm EDT from 70.237.249.216

Bishansky: I'll be on there later tonight. My friends are dragging me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. VERY apprehensive about this at the moment...
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"Everyone decides their own fate, no matter where they're born. Words like fate, karma... it's all just an excuse for giving up if you ask me." -Snake ("Metal Gear Solid")
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 7:08:36 pm EDT from 76.123.52.7

Patrick> Don't even bother. Spen is like a battered wife who won't leave her husband.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 6:28:48 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Spen > Make all the excuses you want for your boss. The fact is, he is NOT a good boss, and he is NOT abiding by the law. No employer is entitled to approve or deny time off on the basis of whether or not they "approve" of where you plan to travel. And if they do ask, there is no law that says you have to tell them the details. A statement like, "I'm going to (city) to visit friends," is usually more than sufficient to satisfy a boss's or coworker's casual curiosity.
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 6:08:30 pm EDT from 76.205.78.213

Hey, Harvester. You signed on to AIM? Think I'd like a word with ya ;)
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 5:52:55 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Seriously, if your boss can't do his job without your help, there's only one thing to do in that situation: take advantage of the old guy. I don't give a damn how disabled he is, I know people who are disabled that actually manage to act civil. Doesn't sound to me like anyone owes him anything.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"Everyone decides their own fate, no matter where they're born. Words like fate, karma... it's all just an excuse for giving up if you ask me." -Snake ("Metal Gear Solid")
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 5:36:47 pm EDT from 76.123.52.7

SPEN> Here's an idea, get a new job.

Being a Republican does not mean subjecting yourself to abuse from an employer like that. Jesus Christ, what a stupid thing to say.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 4:46:23 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Sorry for the double post, but before I forget, happy anniversary, Christine & Tim!
Spen
"Come along. You belong. Feel the fizz."
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 4:41:26 pm EDT from 66.43.205.110

Karine : "if you ask far enough in advance" I asked in March. Check the archives from around St. Patrick's day to see how well that turned out.

"schedules can be shifted around to accommodate vacation time." Not when you're the sole employee. Since my boss can't really do his job anymore without my help, I can't take a weekend off unless he does. Though technically, I can request the weekend off if I have a "good reason". For the uninitiated, here's a little example:
Sister's wedding = Good Reason. (As it turned out, I didn't go, but that's entirely irrelevant.)
Gallivanting cross-country to attend a convention for a canceled cartoon = Not a Good Reason.

"you'd better take it up with whatever government agency manages working conditions in your state/province." I'll do that the next time I want to be fired. Besides, I'm a Republican, we don't believe that government ever solves anything. :)
Spen
"Come along. You belong. Feel the fizz."
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 4:33:52 pm EDT from 66.43.205.110

SPOILERS

Chip > I can see how they may have been able to acquire Ishimuran DNA. They could use a similar scheme to what Demona, Thailog, and Sevarius used when they made they made clones of the Manhattan clan. Or a similar scheme to what Thailog used in "Bash". Or something completely different. There's lots of ways to get DNA...if this is what Taro and Severius are up to, I'm looking forward to seeing how they go about it. But yeah, I like the idea of Vinnie being involved both in the creation of the clones...and then later, perhaps, in making things right.

Speaking of Thailog, I can't WAIT to see what he does with his DNA samples. It's an interesting idea you propose of his activities being interrelated with Taro's...that would definitely be a shock.
Rebel
GOLIATH: I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SHAKESPEAREAN NOW.
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 4:10:47 pm EDT from 216.45.251.210

Does anyone know anyone from Twilight who can give me a differant contact to the website?
It's been a while since I've been here. how goes all who dwell here?
*laughs* Miss me?
joke
Blis
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 3:20:21 pm EDT from 216.177.178.194

Rebel> that is exactly what I was thinking about Bushido Concepts. That Taro hired Sevarius to clone some of the Ishimuran gargoyles...though I don't know where he would have gotten the DNA. Maybe that's where Vinnie comes in. Or...and I thought of this just now...maybe Taro has gotten the DNA from the Manhattan Clan that Thailog collected on Halloween. Hmm...maybe not.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 2:38:18 pm EDT from 72.245.95.109

If I wasn't already leaving the country this summer, the Gathering was going to be in my sights. But with the Gathering in Los Angeles next year and nothing to financially drain me as years past, me and my brother will finally be able to attend one!

Oh, and . . .

***MINOR BG#3 SPOILERS***

KC - the current "present day" bits in BG#3 are in early 1997, not 1996. Dingo watching a New Year's Eve Marathon is a nice little indicator :)

I'll try and get my review by the end of the week . . . .
Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 1:03:33 pm EDT from 70.162.221.121

Spen> "easier said then done".

I understand that some people have erratic/busy work schedules, but if you ask far enough in advance, schedules can be shifted around to accomodate vacation time. If not, you'd better take it up with whatever government agency manages working conditions in your state/province. Everyone is entitled to vacation time.

Now if you CHOOSE to spend your vacation time doing something else, it's your choice. All I'm saying is that if you really DO want to go to the Gathering, you should do what it takes to go instead of whining that you can't and not do anything about it.

About Bad Guys #3: Toldja you'd like Chris's art! :) I was very happy to learn that he was going to be picking up my slack, and then was even happier to see his work when it came in. I learned some stuff from him, too.

Issue #4 was finished last week; I'm currently halfway into #5's roughs, and I've got just about a quarter inked. Just so you know.

I better get back to the day job, now...
Karine
Con Staff Veteran, and still going for more
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 11:12:36 am EDT from 69.70.38.18

Gargoyles: Bad Guys #3

**SPOILERS**

Like last time, I'll just keep my review simple and to the point. There were so many good things (beside the fact that it came out so soon after #2 did) about it.

It starts off like the last 2 issues did. A present day (well, if present day was still 1996) battle that jumps back into flashback mode. This time, it's Robyn's turn, and she does it well. Never thought I'd say this, but her presence alone made this a great issue.

Great way to start the next bit of action. Go back REALLY far, to 1980 and in Paris. Having seen Hunter's Moon Part 3 too many times to count, I knew what was coming, but thanks for adding more to it. I was in suspense when young Robyn and Jon encounters Demona.

For some reason, Matrix just being a puddle on his hotel bed cracked me up. I dunno why.

I loved the interaction between the Canmore siblings, especially between Robyn and Jason. That line about Jason trying to work his 'ass off'. Hell, I never would've expected THAT to get Disney's approval. Nice little surprise.

And while I'm thinking about it, nice little touches with the 'hockey players' (Bader, Spiner, Bennett, Belushi, Tagawa, Devane, Cummings, Cumming, and Cleverdon) there as well. Gave me a few chuckles. Very amusing.

The scene with Robyn and Jon, though, I didn't like so much. It wasn't a bad scene, and I definitely felt their bond ("If the hunter's not hunting demons... I've got no time for her.") breaking. The expression on Robyn's face spoke volumes. And the panel(s) with the closing/closed Quarrymen door? How symbolic. The problem I had with it was how short it was. Could've been longer.

I can just imagine Jon's reaction to his own sister working with a Gargoyle.

Hmmm, what does their mission have to do with Sevarius, exactly?

And, for that matter, why is Fang attacking them?

So many questions, so few answers.

Great story, good plot developments, and nice usage of flashbacks. Definitely the best BG issue yet. Can't wait for issue #4.

End review.

See you at the Gathering next month.
KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra_582 at hotmail dot com]
Grr. Arg.
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 6:55:56 am EDT from 99.168.73.239

Five weeks to go!

35 days left until The Gathering 2008 in Chicago, Illinois!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 6:35:40 am EDT from 76.205.78.213

Karine : "Take the vacation time from work." Heh. Easier said than done.
Spen
"Come along. You belong. Feel the fizz."
posted @ Fri, May 23, 2008 4:39:25 am EDT from 66.43.205.110

****Blaise stumbles in and collapses onto a (suddenly materialized) sofa.**** What a week! Like Mr. Jason Canmore, I have been working my ass off (although in my case, it was for money, not legs). Still, I found time to buy and read the latest "Gargoyles: Bad Guys" offering, and now I have time to comment on it.

GARGOYLES: BAD GUYS--ESTRANGED>

SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!



-I suppose I should get my negative points out of the way first--or rather, my one big negative point:
there just weren't enough pages.
Like everyone else, I just wanted to see so much more of the Canmore siblings. What we got was good, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't feel like enough. Oh well....
-I was a little surprised that we didn't pick up the "Now" teaser with Yama being saved from his predicament (that's probably kicking off the NEXT issue), but when I saw Robyn was a focus, I knew her danger would be the new "present cliffhanger."
-Back to the main story in the past. We get a cross-section glimpse of the Redemption Squad's hideout beneath the Eiffel Tower. Some pad--even comes complete with its own "danger room." I loved Matrix as a little helicopter. I also enjoyed Yama's statements about appreciating the "discipline of training" but being more interested in reclaiming honor.
-Yeah, seeing Charles Canmore's mangled body in a pool of his own blood (even if from a high-angle distance shot) was a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. Actually, there were a fair amount of more "mature" elements here that would never have made it into the TV show. I mean, Robyn calls Dingo a "damn fool" and Jason says "ass" not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES inside of two pages. The edge seems a lot sharper in this series.
-I'm glad we finally got to see the lost "catacombs sequence" (modified to take place after Charles's death). Kudos to Chris Jones on Robyn's "terrified" expression--the panel of her face surrounded by tumbling skulls is especially memorable.
-Dingo's been doing his homework. Robyn now has a very scary (rather than scared) expression on her face in the flashback to her blowing up the Clock Tower.
-"Casablanca Hotel"...okay, there's got to be some significance to this, but color me clueless.
-Wow, when Robyn says "Briefing in ten," she really means "in ten." We get a little slide show about Sevarius (including a shot of Wolf the mutate). Apparently his "Fred" disguise didn't fool...whoever the hell was spying on him. More and more we're getting additional pipe laying regarding the true boss here.
Given Yama's reaction to "Bushido Concepts" I can probably guess who's head of that company (and it's nice that we finally know the name). Also, the origin of the two thylacines is explained (or at least hinted at).
-It's interesting to compare and contrast the members in their various rooms. Yama's the only one (besides the absent Robyn) with his curtains open to let in the sun. I noticed he was still facing inward, as per his customs. I also noticed he removed most of his clothing, something we have not seen him do before. I believe this is because the clothes in question are actually his Redemption Squad uniform, and as such, he does not yet consider them as "his" clothes. Meanwhile Matrix is a puddle, and Dingo's watching celebrity hockey while surrounded by empty bottles (just what was he drinking--beer or root beer?).
-The conversation with Jason went well. I actually like the description of the whole "ass-for-legs bargain" he made with God, as well as the parallel shots of Jason hugging Robyn in the past with Robyn hugging Jason in the present. Jason's canny enough to realize that Robyn's now working for someone, so good on him.
-Mr. Greg Weisman, you are just having too darn much fun with the voice-actor names. ;-)
I especially liked the bit about Cumming (John Castaway's voice from "The Journey") being blindsided by Cleverdon (Jon's voice in "Hunter's Moon"--as well as Castaway's voice in his other two TGC appearances).
-I share Robyn's surprise at her fugitive brother appearing on TV, bold as you please (and I liked the shocked looks on her and Jason's faces). Robyn actually chastises John for calling the gargoyles demons--something I found very interesting. Even stranger, though, is that John doesn't outright...well, "demonize" her for doing so. He's confrontational, yes, but he's...well, he's not the raving lunatic we got in his last two TGC appearances, that's for sure. The contrast between his adult self's determination to kill all gargoyles and his child self's plea to "forget the gargoyles" was well done. And I loved his "I'm not Jonny Canmore/I'm John Castaway now" bit. As I read this, I heard him speaking in his original Scottish voice up until this line, at which point he shifted into his Castaway voice for the remainder of the scene.
-I must say, John's got some very good ears on him. I, too, can appreciate the irony of Robyn holding a conversation with a gargoyle while in the same room as John Castaway. He also seems to have a reaction to hearing Robyn referred to as "Hunter." It's sad the way he just casually disregards her at the end. The Quarrymen door closing on a picture of a young and happy Robyn and Jon is especially poignant.
-"Ding-bat"? Never heard Dingo called that before. I like it. :D
-You'd think Robyn would have learned that when you're searching for something underground, you do NOT split up! I do find it a little funny, though, that so far the one member of the team she seems to have the best (or at least the easiest) working relationship with is the gargoyle.
-The final page where Robyn's "current" predicament with Fang echoes her past one with Demona is just cool. I don't think we've seen Hunter with that terrified of an expression on her face (her adult, masked face, anyway).
-Three last notes: 1) Chris Jones did an excellent job with the art, leaving me with only a few nits (Jason's face looked a little off to me in one panel), but overall showing solid work. 2) I agree with whoever said that the cover for this one looks like it came from the desk of the Director--who apparently prefers to use "-eisman" brand legal pads. It looks like that mug shot of Robyn was taken fairly soon after the final battle of "Hunter's Moon." And 3) Demona may finally get her first line in the comic canon here, but she's always obscured in shadow. Still, it just shows what a strong presence she holds via the impression she leaves.

Having such a short wait between issues #2 and #3 has kind of spoiled me, because now I don't want to wait for issue #4.

END SPOILERS!!!


Okay, now I'm off to relax some more. Until next time, farewell. ****Blaise lays back on the sofa and drifts off to sleep...with said sofa drifting out the window and over the horizon as he does so.****
Blaise
"Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life."--Terry Pratchett's "Jingo"
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 11:43:28 pm EDT from 4.232.165.206

I think I'll be switching my font colors for a while. Red's my favorite color, but I'm in the mood for a change.


SPOILERS>>

I agree with Chip; I definitely enjoyed the moment when Yama was on the radio with Hunter in Castaway's office. I wonder what his reaction would have been if he'd known it was a gargoyle.

I loved the four panels showing the squad members' hotel rooms. That was some pretty good characterization there; it was nice to see what each character would do in their alone time. Dingo relaxing with some beers and television, Yama turned to stone with his robe and weapons immaculately laid out (which I found interesting, I wonder why he didn't keep them on while he was stone?), Matrix lying on the bed in a puddle (I chuckled at this--he's so weird!), and Hunter's room being empty.

Like others have said, I really enjoyed the juxtapositions in this issue...it was especially cool that, for most of them, a box telling us the time/date/place was totally unnecessary. We could just tell that it was future or past, or that time had passed, etc...the comic didn't need to come out and tell us, "2 hours later". Great panels with the Quarryman's door closing on the Canmore children's childhood, Hunter looking pensive after Dingo mentions that she blew up a police station vs. the hungry, primal look on her face back when she actually blew it up, Jason holding Robyn and then Robyn holding Jason, Castaway saying they'll need help to crush the gargoyles vs. a young Jon Canmore begging Robyn to forget the gargoyles, and then Demona/Fang bearing down on Hunter at the end. Really good stuff. It was nice getting such insight into Robyn's character as well.

I'm looking forward to learning more about what Sevarius is up to. Just a point of clarification, do we actually know that the company mentioned is Taro's company? I would assume it is, but it might not be. Anyway, if I had to guess, I bet Taro is having Sevarius clone the members of the Ishimura clan...so he can start up his gargoyle theme park again with more cooperative gargoyles. If this plan gets foiled, I bet Vinnie will play a role in foiling it, which would be cool.

Sevarius and Fang's plan > I guess I'm kind of a sadistic asshole for saying this, but I kinda hope this plan DOESN'T get completely foiled. It would be cool to have some new mutates in the series. I definitely hope they don't manage to turn the whole city into mutates, but I'd love it if at least a few people fell victim to the plot...then again I've always loved when things go wrong in stories and the heroes don't succeed. It would be especially delicious if someone like Margot became a mutate, but I doubt that would happen.

It was great seeing Yama and Hunter's interactions during those panels when they were underground. Just the way they moved together with no talking necessary, you can tell that the two of them work great together as a team, even if they don't necessarily like each other.

Fang looked awesome in that last panel. Throughout the series and comics; we've rarely seen him looking genuinely fearsome (except maybe that time when he's flying after Brooklyn at the clock tower). I love the way he looks here.

Speaking of the clock tower, it was nice seeing it again. I wonder when its repairs will be completed?

I am really impressed with Chris Jones' art. It's magnificent work and I would love to see more of it. I believe Karine said she won't be doing Pendragon, right? In that case I would love it if Chris Jones ends up doing it, or another Gargoyles spin-off in the future. Chris, if you read this, you're awesome.
Rebel
GOLIATH: I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SHAKESPEAREAN NOW.
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 10:56:17 pm EDT from 216.45.251.210

SPOILERS FOR BAD GUYS #3

My Review For Bad Guys #3, "Estranged"...

I greatly enjoyed this issue. We really got into Hunter as a character and it was a lot of fun and very interesting. In "The Lost", we got this great broken romance between Yama and Sora, now we see what love and conflict can do between siblings. I couldn't help but think of my family as Hunter was reminiscing and encountering her own. Like the Canmore kids, I too am the product of a boy-girl-boy birth order (as is my friend Ryan who is going to attending the Gathering with me in a month or so). I can appreciate how the relationship between Jon and Robyn changed from their childhood into their adulthood as it is very much like my relationship with my sister. I don't want to get too personal with this review, but suffice to say that "Estranged", much to my surprise, got me thinking about my siblings and made me get a little sad and made me want to call them up and chat. A very poignant and touching issue. Kudos to Greg on the great writing.

- I think the cover by Greg Guler and Robby Bevard is the best Bad Guys cover to date. It seems to be the most dynamic, I guess. And the coloring is gorgeous.

- And lets not forget the main artist for this issue. Christopher Jones does a great job filling in for Karine Charlebois. I particularly liked how he drew Hunter throughout the issue, most especially during the scene with Castaway. Hunter's silent and sad stare after John tells her he has no time for her is just breathtaking. Great stuff. I hope we see Christopher's work again either in Gargoyles or in a spinoff book.

- So, on to the story itself. We start back in the future at "Robot Island". Part of me was expecting to find out what Yama's fate would be after the cliffhanger (so to speak) from last issue, but instead we go back to see what Hunter, Dingo and Matrix are up to. Hunter does some more of her crazy-fun acrobatics and takes out a 'bot only to be snatched like teammate Yama was. Guess we'll have to wait and see how they both escape now.

- But we are off for a flashback in Paris mixed in with a flash(way)back in Paris. One of the best things about the Gargoyles comics has been the leeway we've seen on certain words and visuals. This issue contains a couple creepy glimpses of Charles Canmore that probably would never have been seen in the television series. We also have Jason throwing the word "ass" around a bit, which seemed so natural and realistic and is only remarkable because such language would've never gotten on the air. One more reason I often wonder if Gargoyles is more suited for comics.

- I like the extension on the Notre Dame scene from what we saw in "Hunter's Moon". The body of their father, the journey into the Catacombs, The Demon crawling across piles of human skulls attacking children. You can feel the creepiness and understand why these kids were so traumatized into devoting their life towards hunting gargoyles.

- The mission briefing scene was great. The thing about Sevarius is that in most shows/comics he would be a useful plot device. Fun and all, sure, but just there to enable the plot. But Gargoyles makes him more than just the "mad scientist type". He is a person with his own goals and motivations and all his work for others in the series has really been to raise cash for his own schemes. As for what he is up to, again, we'll have to wait and see...

- The Celebrity Hockey bit was fun. I laughed out loud in particular at "Puck's recovered by Spiner... Bennett checks him... loose puck!" Greg sure knows how to have fun.

- There were a lot of great little things that I loved in "Estranged". Yama's impatience to restore honor. Matrix as a mini-Redemption helicopter. Demona calling the Canmore kids "little hunters". The Clocktower in mid-restoration. The mention of Bushido Concepts and the Thylacines. Dingo relaxing in his hotel room. Yama sleeping in his underwear with his clothes and weapons neatly placed aside. And of course all the neat parallels throughout the issue ending in the great cliffhanger ending with Fang and Hunter. Great stuff. Very much looking forward to "Louse".
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 10:36:33 pm EDT from 70.237.249.216

****BAD GUYS #3 SPOILERS****

I truly enjoyed this issue. Finally some new Demona content and she finally speaks. And wow, I was really surprised at how many times the word "ass" appeared. I cannot wait for the next issue, BG 4 or Gargoyles 9
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1 at sbcglobal dot net]
Gary Gygax R.I.P.
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 10:32:46 pm EDT from 69.231.215.165

****SPOILERS FOR BG#3****

I really enjoyed this issue. It was nice seeing Jones's work, different from Karine's but still really good. Very expressive, and he did a good job paralleling the past and the present. That's really what makes this issue, seeing and juxtaposing Hunter's past with the present. As with all the characters, there's a lot of gray, and it was fun seeing the tension between Robyn and Jason, and she and John, and their talks about power and deals. And it is now official, John Canmore is Castaway.

I loved the dig at Robyn's past by Dingo. Felony versus blowing up a police station, still crimes but the differences are big.

****END SPOILERS****

Gatherings> I've enjoyed going the Gathering the last couple years, getting a chance to meet people I've chatted with over the years. Unfortunately, I can't make this year's Gathering due to lack of fundage. Ah well, more time to get things together so I can participate more next year. It's in/around LA again, right?
Asatira
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 9:20:09 pm EDT from 97.82.36.198

This will be my first time to the Gathering and first time to America so i'm really excited but I doubt I'll be comeing next year unless my parents or me win some money on the Lottery again. this trip is costing me at least £1500 thats about $2900.
VickyUK - [Vickyfanofwwe at aol dot com]
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 8:36:32 pm EDT from 64.12.117.134

BATTLE BEAST> Karine did not draw #3 of "Bad Guys." Christopher Jones did. Completely different art style.

BAD GUYS VILLAINS (That sounds redundent): Personally, I would prefer the Redemption Squad to find their own villains instead of just fighting the same villains Goliath and his clan battle. Sevarius and the Ultra Pack make sense. Demona and Castaway too. But I'd rather they get their own. The Illuminati will have a presense in both series, which is fine. Big society with its hands in a lot of pies. Taro, for example, I expect to be more of a Redemption Squad villain and less of a "Gargoyles" villain.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 8:20:44 pm EDT from 75.36.123.78

I've only heard about the Gathering from last year's Comic Con. The only reason I can't attend this year is explained in two simple words...no job... No job means no money, can't save if I'm not earning money, etc. However, that's not stopping me from purchasing supporting membership... ;)
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> Still under the cookie table until #8, BG #2, #3 and/or the TPB is in hand...
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 7:45:46 pm EDT from 67.101.237.11

As I've said before, I can't wait for a Redemption Squad vs. Ultra-Pack showdown. I mean, just imagine the possibilities. Good stuff.
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 7:29:18 pm EDT from 70.237.249.216

Todd> I guess it depends how they do it. Concept isn't nearly as important as execution to my mind.
Algernon
"Nobody can say I wasn't a perfect father, do you hear..? Nobody !" - Norman Osborn
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 7:23:43 pm EDT from 86.41.192.220

AMEN, Karine. ANd P.S. Great work on #3!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 6:56:11 pm EDT from 209.89.155.87

ALGERNON - Maybe trying to mutate the entire city sounds over-the-top for Sevarius, but this is what the description of the next issue says:

"How many mutates does it take to screw in a light bulb? Well, if you're Dr. Sevarius and Fang, the answeris: 'Never enough!' Can Hunter, Yama, Dingo and Matrix stop our mad scientist's nefarious plan for the city of Manhattan?"

I'd say that definitely indicates what Sevarius is up to. (Of course, the description might be exaggerated.)
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 6:31:30 pm EDT from 4.244.212.192

Haven't missed a Gathering since 2000, I don't intend on missing anymore. If you want to go, plan ahead... it's not hard.

The only way it will ever be near you is if you cowboy up and make it happen yourself. I'll leave it at that, Karine said it better than I could.

In the mean time, Chicago's Gathering, next month, is going to be good.
Greg Bishansky
"You're parked in a no whining zone. Peter's not the reason you failed. You want to pass a test, study. You want to be popular? Be popular. Life is simple, you cowboy up and do what you have to do." - Norman Osborn
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 5:52:28 pm EDT from 75.36.123.78

AMEN and JALAPENA!

I haven't missed a single Gathering either for all of the same reasons. It's always part of my summer vacation, and it's something I look forward to it all year long. Even if it means driving 9 hours to get there like I did last year, I'm going to be at The Gathering. :)
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 5:48:01 pm EDT from 76.205.78.213

Bear with me as I state the obvious.

ANYONE WHO WANTS A GATHERING NEAR THEM:

Are you willing to host it? If so, assemble a team, find a (hopefully) affordable hotel with meeting space, prepare a bid, show it to the Gathering of the Gargoyles commitee, and be prepared for months of work getting the whole thing together. DO NOT BID if you do not understand what you are getting into.

Not willing to host it? Can you find someone who is? They have to go through the above process.

Several of you don't seem to understand the sheer amount of work that goes into hosting a Gathering. They don't just happen, and yeah, the team who does host it will do it close to where they are because of logistics -- dealing with hotel, mostly -- and because they think their city has something worthwhile for the fans.

Putting together a convention is a LOT of work. A lot of VOLUNTARY work. It is also a LOT of DRAMA, because there is no way you can please everybody (starting with the people who whine about the con being far away). It costs a lot of money that we can only get if people register and actually come to the con. Another common drama issue is that hotels are expensive in big cities. Well, that's because 1- they have to have the room to accomodate our meetings and 2- they're in a big city.

WHAT ABOUT THIS YEAR? AND THE NEXT?

We are a small fandom, but we finally have new material to get excited about and share. Why not come to Chicago and share it IN PERSON with the other fans? You can come by yourself. You may be alone on the plane/train/car, but you won't be alone at the con. You can't keep saying "maybe next year". At that rate, you'll never go.

Seriously. I'm stating the obvious. I HAVEN'T MISSED A SINGLE GATHERING because I made the commitment to be there. I save my money, plan my vacation time, and go. This convention is important to me not just because of Gargoyles, or the panels, or the Masquerade, or the guests: it is important because of the friends I have made thanks to Gargoyles and this is often my ONE opportunity a year to see them in person.

The 2008 convention is a little more than a month away. Come on, guys... stop saying "maybe next year". Stop saying "I wish I could go". Just... go. Plan for it. Put money aside. Take the vacation time from work. Just go.
Karine
Con Staff Veteran, and still going for more
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 5:18:35 pm EDT from 69.70.38.18

To be fair...I'm pretty sure that Fang was busted out of the Labyrinth around Halloween.

Jack-Pumpkinhead> Oh yeah...I can definitely appreciate that. Same thing happened to me. (I had to go all the way into the city to find a copy of #2, and my usual store still hasn't gotten it. But they did get #3)
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 3:12:22 pm EDT from 68.164.3.46

Plus, is Sevarius is freelancing, he can be working for Thailog and doing his own gig on the side, you know? Especially if he's doing it during the day...I actually wonder if the story in BAD GUYS will tie in more with #10-12 of the main title, as they're set around the same time (at least the "current" parts of BAD GUYS).

GregB> I suppose I think that those questions are only pertinent if Greg has a story that involves them, if that makes sense, and I'm not sure that's the case. The explanation of "Canmore money" could be as simple as "they come from a very old family with money." Plus, I don't know if Greg'll ever have the time/space to elaborate; not enough space in BAD GUYS, and where else is it going to go?
Meg
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 3:08:20 pm EDT from 138.16.28.211

Chip> Okay then. I haven't got issue three yet so I didn't know about the New Year thing. Interestingly though, that means this story is actually taking place a month or so in the "future" of the main comic. I wonder if this will tie into Sevarius's current status in the main book.

On a related note, I was wondering if people here would prefer the Redemption Squad to face off against established Gargoyles villains like Sevarius, Castaway or the Pack? Or would you rather see them focus on building up a rogues gallery of their own?

I'm of two minds on the subject. I would like to see them battling villains they already have a connection to (I'd like to see a story involving Coyote trying to coerce Dingo into the Ultra-Pack).

On the other hand I think this book will need some major antagonists of its own if it's successful enough to merit an ongoing.
Algernon
"Nobody can say I wasn't a perfect father, do you hear..? Nobody !" - Norman Osborn
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 3:00:01 pm EDT from 86.41.192.220

So, you guys can all appreciate this; I got Bad Guys 3 yesterday, but I still haven't gotten 2. Diamond tells him it'll be shipped to the store soon, but still annoying.
Jack-Pumpkinhead - [jtjgundam at hotmail dot com]
'Lord what fools these mortals be."
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 2:58:55 pm EDT from 204.8.190.205

Mara> PA would be best, but I wouldn't be upset if it were in NY again, maybe NJ, MA or DE. How does one lobby for it to be in a certain state?
The Gargoyles Pulse
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 2:48:49 pm EDT from 159.240.11.254

Algernon> Actually no it's not taking place around the Halloween story. It's New Years Eve, that's two months later. The Celebrety Hockey game confirmed this. I doubt Thailog's involved. Robyn's breifing on Sevarius seems to indicate he's acting on his own now. I think he does have big plans to mutate a large number of people...but I don't know why.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 2:13:54 pm EDT from 68.164.3.46

Todd> Trying to mutate the whole city seems a bit too "wacky supervillain" for Sevarius. Even though he likes to play the stereotypical mad scientist, Ive always seen him as more of a "Screw law and morality! As long as I'm getting paid" scientist.

One other question about Sevarius in "Bad Guys", is it possible that Anton is working for Thailog? This story seems to be taking place around the time of the Halloween story in the main comic, so he should still be on Nightstone's payroll
Algernon
"Nobody can say I wasn't a perfect father, do you hear..? Nobody !" - Norman Osborn
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 1:53:14 pm EDT from 86.41.192.220

Anthony: The best way to get a Gathering on the east coast, in any year, is to actively lobby for one. Even if you personally can't get involved for whatever reason, perhaps you might attract the notice of someone who can. Even several someones? If there's real interest in a particular place, and enough people can commit to "Oh, hot DARN I'll be going there!" then it's easier for people to justify throwing their hat in the ring. I understand not being able to afford/not having time to do/whatever- but if no one says anything, nothing happens.

Florida? Maine? Or somewhere more in the middle?
Mara - [angelcarnivore at gmail dot com]
"It's not that I don't love you" he said, "it's that our writer has an unhealthy obsession with will they/won't they story arcs."
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 10:55:57 am EDT from 69.155.118.178

Sorry for the double post, but:

MATT - There seemed to be a fair number of "Bad Guys" comics at Starclipper when I went there yesterday, but since I didn't count them, I don't know how many there were.
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 8:07:09 am EDT from 4.244.208.251

* SPOILERS FOR "BAD GUYS" #3 *

The solicitation description of "Bad Guys" #4 indicates that Sevarius and Fang's big scheme involves mutating a lot of New Yorkers - probably as much of the city as they could. And when Dingo was watching the Celebrity Hockey game on television, the announcer described it as a special New Year's Eve marathon.

I suddenly wondered whether Sevarius's scheme might involve the dropping of the ball in Times Square, when enough people would be gathered together to be exposed to his mutagen. Though I'm not certain about that theory yet, simply because I've seen enough similar schemes involving such an event that it sounds too cliched for Greg to use. (On the other hand, it's *definitely* not too cliched for Sevarius to use!)

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 6:41:46 am EDT from 4.244.215.219

I don't think Greg Weisman has the kind of control over Diamond's distribution schedule that the scenario being envisioned would require. Heck, I'm not sure that someone like Stan Lee could even order them to postpone by a week something that's otherwise ready to ship.

36 days left until The Gathering 2008 in Chicago, Illinois!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 6:40:52 am EDT from 76.205.78.213

Indy 4 Review Spoiler Free>

Upfront let me say that if you can avoid the temptation and curiosity of the new Indiana Jones adventure, then I suggest you do so. This movie starts out well enough with a small laugh or two. Then you begin to wonder, "What the heck is going on?" Then there is maybe another laugh or two, and a some action mixed in, but the magic just feels missing. My overall impression was that it was mildly entertaining and it tried its best to give you that old school feel, but it just wasn't able to capture it fully. Maybe they were trying too hard, I don't know, but it definitely had promise and I just didn't feel that it reached the caliber of the previous Indiana Jones installments.
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 2:43:27 am EDT from 70.15.84.29

MEG> <<I doubt any of this will get fleshed out, but it still makes me wonder....>>

Yeah, because Greg never explores any little set-ups like that. Seriously, why do you doubt it?
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 12:21:42 am EDT from 75.56.245.4

BAD GUYS #3 SPOILERS
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One thing that really intrigued me about this ish was the relations between the Canmore siblings. First of all, it confirms that they as a family are pretty independently wealthy, so I wonder if Greg will do more with that, or with a larger Canmore family. But secondly, when Jason asks Robyn who she's sold her soul to now, and Jon and Robyn's exchange, I wonder if the siblings have always worked as a unified team in the past, or if some or all of them from time to time have taken off to follow their own leads/do their own things, and if that ever caused friction with the mission and whatnot, leading to larger questions about the sibs' relationship in general. I doubt any of this will get fleshed out, but it still makes me wonder....
Meg
posted @ Thu, May 22, 2008 12:16:07 am EDT from 138.16.28.211

Chip - I'm strongly leaning towards believing gxb on the issue of if #9 will come out before the gathering.

Congrats on Ed Reynolds for his review of bg #1 making it into the comic. I was looking up how far in the Ask Greg backlog before the 1st review of bg #2 comes up. Right now, there's about 40 questions in line before the 1st review of bg #2 comes up.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 10:53:26 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

Chip> According to SLG comics, #9 will be out in June, and since comics come out Wednesdays and the last Wednesday of June is before the Gathering, then the answer to your question is YES.

UNLESS, Greg holds off the release to give all the Gathering folks a chance to buy it first, and then has Diamond release it July 2nd. Maybe it'll come out July 2nd and the the radio play will be 7 - 9. That'll be confusing, but I'm sure it'll be fun.

BAD GUYS #3 - My favorite of the series thus far. I absolutely loved it.
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 10:43:23 pm EDT from 70.15.84.29

CHIP> I don't think #9 will be out before the Gathering. I think we're more likely to see Bad Guys #4 first.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 10:41:57 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Matt> Boy am I glad that the Fantasy Shop came through for me, because Starclipper would have been my next stop if they hadn't.

Anyone know if #9 is going to come out before the Gathering?
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 10:34:49 pm EDT from 64.105.104.131

Got my copies today and cleaned out Starclipper in the process. Todd, glad to hear you got your copy already since I bought the last three (two for me, one for a friend). Todd, how many were there when you got yours? Just wondering how many they had.

Anyway, I'm very tired and off to bed. Review will come soon.
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 9:47:59 pm EDT from 70.237.249.216

BAD GUYS #3 SPOILERS
More and more, I am loving what Greg can get away with in this medium. First we have Goliath holding in his gizzard, and now we get to see Charles Canmore marinating in his own life force. I also liked the brief appearance by Demona, even if it was only in flashback. So Greg finally got to use the catacombs, perhaps not in the same manner as the original script for "Hunter's Moon," but it was still a great scene. Especially like how it paralleled with the present at the end of the issue.

Speaking of parallels, there were a number of good ones in this issue. First Jason supports his sister, and then we see the opposite. Time does seem to have a way of changing things, doesn't it?

And in response to what Bishansky said, it looked like both John and Robyn made it clear in their little chat what their priorities were. "Never mind. If the Hunter's not hunting Demons, I've got no time for her." Looks like the mission, whatever it might be, comes first for both of them.

I'm also starting to wonder if their current mission has anything to do with the one they're currently on? Anton is producing capital for something (or someone), and things in the Gargoyles universe have a habit of being connected.

And damn! Dingo demolished almost an entire twelve-pack by himself. *raises his bottle in toast* Henry Monmouth, we're of totally opposite nationalities, but this bastard Mick salutes you.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"A magician pulls rabbits out of hats. An experimental psychologist pulls habits out of rats."
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 9:05:57 pm EDT from 76.123.52.7

* "BAD GUYS"#3 SPOILERS *

I was looking forward to this one, after reading the solicitation for it, and I wasn't disappointed.

Greg's continuing to recycle old ideas. First Coco and Amp become actual London gargoyles, and now the confrontation with Demona in the Paris catacombs, based on the "Hunter's Moon Part Three" radio play.

Dingo's now picked up on Hunter/Robyn's criminal past (I liked the background detail of the clock tower still being repaired).

So Sevarius was behind the thylacines (not that I was that surprised by it). I also suspected that "Bushido Concepts" is the name of Taro's company.

A couple of additional in-jokes in the "Celebrity Hockey" broadcast that haven't been mentioned yet. The original Bennett was Owen's voice actor, making it appropriate that his namesake's checking Spiner in the "puck moments". And "Cumming is blindsided by Cleverdon!" - Cumming did the voice of Jon Canmore in "Hunter's Moon" and Cleverdon the voice of Castaway in "The Journey". You just know that Greg's enjoyed writing this.

I liked the scenes between Robyn and her brothers - Jason trying to rebuild his life, Castaway heading down his new dark course. His television commercial is effective - he sounds so reasonable and reassuring in it, just the approach to lure people to the Quarrymen. He may be vengeance-driven, but he's also no fool.

The "I know it's not Canmore money" line for both Castaway and Hunter is all the more appropriate, since, according to Greg Weisman (it's canon-in-training at this point, of course) the Illuminati and the Director are at odds with each other.

I liked the way Yama described Dingo as "bored".

And a great cliffhanger with Fang. I'm looking forward to #4 - and, of course, "Gargoyles" #9 as well.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 6:38:55 pm EDT from 4.244.214.78

gxb - Thx for filling in the significance of the names. I thought there was significance to every name but didn't catch it.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 4:26:43 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

*** BIG BAD SPOILERS ***

"Bad Guys" #3, "Estranged" picks up where #2 left off and brings us to the familiar territory of the "Gargoyles Universe" version of Manhattan. It's a comfortable setting that we know quite well, and still manages to not detract from the more global setting this book is going for.

Hunter gets a lot of, much needed, fleshing out. For us long time fans, we already knew who she was and where she came from. But for new readers, or those who've been gone for a while, this is something they needed. Especially with Season Two Volume Two not yet on the horizon. While the plot doesn't move at the pace the first two issues did, this issue is all about character development, and that is not a bad thing. Hunter was my favorite member of the team ever since I first saw the leica reel back in 1998.

I loved the flashback, and watching them chase the demon into the Paris catacombs. Very creepy and atmospheric. It also sets up her relationship with her two brothers quite well. Although, I think a brief flashback to Jon accidentally crippling Jason was needed to give newbies more of a glimpse into Jon... whoops, I mean John's pathos.

The scene with Hunter and Jason was touching, and Jason's attitude was commendable. Yeah, he's not happy to be paralyzed, but he's not whining about it. He cowboyed up and is making the best of it.

Hunter and John Castaway, I loved. But the scene was way too short, I wanted more. But then, I get the feeling Hunter did to. But, she got called away. Like a professional, the mission comes first. I do look forward to their next meeting, assuming there is one.

Let's see, who's playing Celebrity Hockey on TV? Why it's (Sheena) Easton, (Diedrich) Bader, (Brent) Spinder, (Jeff) Bennett, (Jim) Belushi, (Cary-Hiroyuki) Tagawa, (William) Devane, (Jim) Cummings, and (Scott) Cleverdon. Or rather, the voice actors for Hunter, Jason, Puck, Matrix (leica reel), Fang, Yama (leica reel), the Director (leica reel), Dingo, and John Castaway. Except for Puck and the Director, everyone of those characters appear in this issue.

Finally, we begin to see the plot thicken. We know Castaway is being funded by the Illuminati, but we get a very strong hint that Hunter has a boss, too. Someone's backing her, and as Castaway said, it's not Canmore money.

Good issue. Looking forward to the next one.

** END SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 4:00:22 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

I had a weird dream last night. I was a Gargoyle who discovered a new Gargoyle. He looked like that manta Ray from the Ninja Turtles Mighty Mutanimals comics. Only he had two heads, and was was deformed and dead. Thus, he wore this gold aromour to cover it up. Very weird. His wings, however, we like Griff's wings. He was ,ainly bluie (like the manta ray guy. (http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/mutanimals/07/07.htm)

It was really weird.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 2:13:25 pm EDT from 75.156.188.242

dph> yep, that's the one that made me laugh out loud.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 2:05:04 pm EDT from 68.164.2.33

**Bad Guys Spoiler**

Found one in-joke: "Puck's recovered by Spiner"

**End Spoiler**

I'll review it later, but that's the 1st in-joke I found in this issue.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 1:58:02 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

Review for Bad Guys #3: Estranged.

Ironically my store still hasn't gotten Issue #2: The Lost. Good thing I got a copy from another Starclipper. I shall have my spare copy soon, they promised me...and they gave me a discount on my BG#3 for the inconvenience.

**SPOILERS**

I was hoping to find out what happened to Yama at the beginning of this issue, but no, just some cool panels of Robyn blowing stuff up. AWESOME!

Then we flashback, not to two months ago...but two weeks, some time has past. We see Yama and Dingo work well together...sort of, and Matrix makes a mini-Redemption Helecopter. His statement about Hunter being logical is ironic considering her EMOTIONAL trip down memory lane. Oddly enough...the artist in the background if front of Notre Dame looks just like a fanfic character of mine...weird.

I enjoyed more on the Canmore's past...it helped flesh them out and let me get to know them better. Also...give it up for Demona's first line in the comics...she's appeared before, but she never spoke till now.

On to NYC, and Dingo's gone and done his homework. *Pause for evil laugh*
Welcome to the Casablanca Hotel...I wonder if it's near the Hotel Cabal. Well...Sevarius explains how the Tasmanian Tiger got Thylacines...they were clones. And Sevarius didn't artificially age them because their coloring (as far as I could tell in black and white) was normal. So TT must have raised them from pups.

Bushido Concepts? That HAS to be Taro's company. Wonder what Vinnie's up to? I just realized...While we're at it what was Sevarius doing for Taro?!?! I can think of several possibilities and I don't like any of them.

And we get to see Yama in stone sleep for the first time in the comics. Robyn goes and sees her brothers (That hockey game made me laugh out loud in the comic shop, the storekeep stopped and asked what was so funny) Jason...who's definitely gotten himself some perspective...and Jon. Who's lost his mind, and disowned his family. I can see why the Monmouths and Castaways will still be fueding in the future. I just love that the Hunter...the mantle that was used for gargoyle genecide...now fights on the same side as gargoyles and even protects them. Poetic Justice.

More irony from Yama...if Jon had any idea who was at the other end of that radio. And Dingo was..."bored". That also made me laugh.

And Fang's assult on Hunter echoing Demona's attack on Robyn...that was just well done. I can't wait for Issue #4...I don't doubt it will leave me breathless. I also can't wait for Gargoyles #9 & 10. Especially 10! Greg Gular as guest artist WOO-WHO!!!

**END SPOILERS**
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 1:43:22 pm EDT from 68.164.2.33

I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not the first one to suggest this, but as I'm looking at the final version of the cover for BG #3 at GargWiki, I'm wondering anyone else thinks we're looking at the Director's desk.
Demonskrye - [demonskrye(at)gmail(dot)com]
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 11:53:40 am EDT from 209.6.248.33

I haven't been watching SSM, but are those really the episode titles? Why do they have an economics theme? Just a surprising thing to come across in a superhero cartoon...
bluewyvern
"Attend the petty jealousies and angers that prey upon your heart."
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 11:50:05 am EDT from 69.112.108.43

I cannot wait!!! only two hours till the comics store opens...they'd better have it this time. They still haven't gotten the BG#2 that they ordered for me 3 weeks ago.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth. Be content.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Wed, May 21, 2008 9:55:30 am EDT from 68.164.5.32

Mara - A small one in Arkansas. No stupid voters today, but I had 72 voters in 12 hours. I prefer to have days when we have at least 720 voters. I got to see my 1st computer science teacher (way back from high school) today.

Ed - thx for the numbers. It's funny that the slg blog hasn't mentioned gargoyles winning a 2006 Urma award yet, but I don't expect much from them.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 11:12:50 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

Bad Guys #3 is out tomorrow. Last I heard #4 is complete... so far, so good.

ALDRIUS> I think he just wanted the police and public hunting Spider-Man. Why frame him. No deeper reason, if everyone thinks Spider-Man is a criminal, he is less likely to be discovered.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Twelfth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"Dave moved in when I was ten. So I already built up a ten year Dad-Callous but Dave was still fresh, soft and pink so I kind of became like Dave's Secret Service. Except I had to protect a really dumb guy from danger. Wow, that's exactly the Secret Service." -Christopher Titus
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 10:50:09 pm EDT from 75.56.245.4

Here's a question about Spectacular Spider-man.

Why did the Chameleon give incriminating photos of Spider-man to the Bugle? Did he just want him locked up or is there a deeper reason here that I'm missing?
Aldrius
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 8:00:01 pm EDT from 207.112.82.245

As we feared, BG #2 took a big hit. Hopefully #3 coming out so soon after will allow the comic to rally a bit though.

165. Gargoyles #1 (7,500)
205. Gargoyles #2 (6,900)
189. Gargoyles #3 (6,504)
227. Gargoyles #4 (5,775)
236. Gargoyles #5 (5,737)
236. Gargoyles #6 (5,433)
* 244. Gargoyles: Bad Guys #1 (4,973)
236. Gargoyles #7 (5,457)
233. Gargoyles #8 (5,288)
* 273. Gargoyles: Bad Guys #2 (4,211)
Ed
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 5:06:01 pm EDT from 213.187.39.61

In barely-related news, scientists have successfully extracted Tasmanian Tiger DNA and implanted it in a mouse embryo, bring us one step closer to a Jurassic Park-style resurrection (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/20/2249778.htm). No word if Severino Antinori (http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=7844) will get involved for a complete life-imitates-art freak out.
Lumpmoose - [lumpmoose at googles dot email dot service]
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 3:24:47 pm EDT from 128.101.32.234

Thanks Patrick, but my friend that was thinking about going to Chicago with me just told me that he can't go. I'm really hoping for someplace in the east coast for 2010!
The Gargoyles Pulse
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 2:27:11 pm EDT from 159.240.11.254

Continuing my review on The Spectacular Spider-Man:

Episode 4- Market Forces
- Peter should have showed some more enthusiasum concerning MJ's good personality. Who knows, they could marry each other some day.
- If only Flint and Alex didn't resort to crime, I could see them as this generation's Odd Couple.
- Definitely thought Spider-Man 3 with the emo line from Eddie.
- In all seriousness, I found the choice to use Montana as The Shocker to be a good one. It certainly keeps the story interesting.
- While we can agree that Norman isn't parent of the year, I found his advice to be a sound one indeed.

Episode 5- Competition
- Looking forward to seeing Flint and Alex's interaction when they meet up in The Sinister Six.
- I'm going to guess that May didn't look into Peter's room after the webbing expired.
- Good to see that Sandman has a sense of priority (no revenge), even if he didn't have the sense to take a crime breather.
- Had a flashback to Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends when Sandman left the bag of money behind.

Episode 6- The Invisible Hand
- Nice to see that the Grant/Brant bit wasn't lost on the younger crowd.
- Always good to see Jameson when he isn't doing the ranting, and this show does that well too.
- While Clancy Brown does good voice work for an antagonistic character, he certainly doesn't sound villainous when voicing a protagonist (refering to his voicing of George Stacy).
- Have to say that Tombstone really looked intimidating even before his display of power.
Antiyonder - [antiyonder at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 4:43:07 am EDT from 71.115.218.75

What precinct?


I'm sure people would be less dumb about voting protocols if only we got to do them more often. :)
Mara - [angelcarnivore at gmail dot com]
"It's not that I don't love you" he said, "it's that our writer has an unhealthy obsession with will they/won't they story arcs."
posted @ Tue, May 20, 2008 12:21:43 am EDT from 69.155.118.178

For those of you who don't care, you won't have to worry about annoying presence tomorrow. I get the fun priviledge of working in an election precint. I wonder how many dumb voters I'll encounter.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 11:21:04 pm EDT from 98.20.134.166

I'm looking forward to "Bad Guys" #3 (just two days away now) - especially since it'll give us another glimpse (or more than a glimpse) of Greg Weisman's take on Castaway. What we saw of him in "Gargoyles" #3 was already enough to serve as an antidote to the "Goliath Chronicles" portrayal of him (or the beginning of an antidote).

I suspect that the issue will have Jason as well as Robyn/Hunter finding out that Castaway is Jon Canmore. (Greg mentioned that Jason will be spending much time trying to turn Jon away from his destructive course, and to do that, he'd have to know Castaway's true identity.)
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 7:27:07 pm EDT from 4.245.19.232

Anthony > Yes, you should.
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 5:39:41 pm EDT from 76.205.120.195

http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/newreleases.txt

Diamond has confirmed shipping of Bad Guys #3 this week! Hooray!

On a side note, I'm thinking of possibly attending The Gathering on just the 27th and 28th. Should I do it?
The Gargoyles Pulse
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 3:05:04 pm EDT from 159.240.11.254

Hey, maybe I'm just slow or stupid...but I was looking at the JLE Gargoyles Parody and I noticed that the Penciller was a Christopher Jones...that wouldn't by any chance be the same Chris Jones who's doing Bad Guys #3 would it?
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:21:46 pm EDT from 72.245.94.186

THANKS, TODD!!! ^_^
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 11:17:03 am EDT from 75.152.239.150

Patrick> I don't see a phobia defined as a fear of gargoyles, but depending upon a person's definition of a gargoyle, one might suffer from one of these fears:

Agrizoophobia - Fear of wild animals.
Demonophobia - Fear of demons.
Megalophobia - Fear of large things.
Teratophobia - Fear of bearing a deformed child or fear of monsters or deformed people.
Xenophobia - Fear of strangers or foreigners.
Zoophobia - Fear of animals.
The Gargoyles Pulse
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 10:45:02 am EDT from 159.240.11.254

Tinitinytony - <I don't think acrophobics actually fear heights, but in actuality, fear falling from them and either being seriously hurt or end up dying.> Exactly.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happened to simplicity?
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 7:46:38 am EDT from 98.20.134.166

To everyone here from Canada, happy Victoria Day!
Todd Jensen
Gargoyles - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 7:26:57 am EDT from 4.244.214.218

Gargataphobia...?
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 7:00:26 am EDT from 70.237.249.216

So what would be the scientific term for "fear of gargoyles"?

39 days left until The Gathering 2008 in Chicago, Illinois!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2008]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 6:56:00 am EDT from 76.205.120.195

Dang it . . . missed the Top 10. Too busy reading Arabian Nights (11 "nights" down, 990 to go :P)

Gargoyles won an Ursa Award? Sweet! An award and possibly a new comic, that's great stuff!

(goes back to reading/lurking)
Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:32 am EDT from 70.162.221.121

Gargoyles won an Ursa Major award...? Nice... 8D
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>TT)> Still under the cookie table until #8, BG #2, and/or the TPB is in hand...
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 1:45:17 am EDT from 72.199.224.230

Tenth! Wow. Forgot what day it is.
Spen
"Come along. You belong. Feel the fizz."
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:52:34 am EDT from 66.43.205.110

9th
we have a gargoyle who's scared of heights: remember this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kklweIOUVq4
Wingless
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:40:12 am EDT from 99.245.254.123

8th~!
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>TT)> Still under the cookie table until #8, BG #2, and/or the TBP is in hand...
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:38:58 am EDT from 72.199.224.230

seventh!
Purplegoldfish
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:36:15 am EDT from 72.92.160.183

Oh...oops.
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:19:20 am EDT from 72.245.94.186

sixth
oneuke
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:19:09 am EDT from 69.3.179.22

Chip> I believe while your post is the seventh post today, you are the 5th original person to post, so you're #5.
(The Gargoyles Pulse - updated Mondays)
~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:18:45 am EDT from 70.15.84.29

Okay...Seventh in the Name of Bad Guys #3: Estranged. I actually had to go in and count. Gargoyles won the URSA MAJOR award? Really? Cool
Chip - [Dragonhunter723 at yahoo dot com]
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth.'"--C.S. Lewis, From Prince Caspian
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:11:37 am EDT from 72.245.94.186

Oops. 4th.
Rebel
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:04:21 am EDT from 216.45.251.210

I just went and looked up the wikipedia article on phobias. Apparently, most phobias are a combination of innate genetic fears and also some sort of trauma (which acts as the "conditioning" for that phobia) which happened in childhood.

A researcher tried to condition people to have phobias of both snakes and flowers. He was successful in both cases, however, it was much easier to condition people to fear snakes than it was to condition people to fear flowers, since in nature, flowers pose almost no danger while snakes do. Developing a phobia is much easier if there is already an innate aversion of some sort...

Thus, I don't think it would be possible for a gargoyle to "naturally" be born with a fear of heights, since heights pose little danger to a winged gargoyle (much like flowers pose little danger to humans). However, I could see how an unlucky young gargoyle might develop a phobia of heights or a phobia of flying, if his or her first attempt (or, first series of attempts) at flying went disastrously wrong and were traumatic. But, this seems about as likely as a human developing a fear of running.
Rebel
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:03:45 am EDT from 216.45.251.210

Aww, man...

Third!
Ricky
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:01:46 am EDT from 70.19.83.81

SECOND! - In honor of Gargoyles winning the URSA MAJOR AWARD, and in the hopes of BG #3 this week!
Ricky
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:01:17 am EDT from 70.19.83.81

2nd.
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~ Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:00:55 am EDT from 70.15.84.29

FIRST!!!!
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Let this mark the beginning of a Golden Age! Between all our clans, both Human and Gargoyle!!!" - Macbeth, "City of Stone"
posted @ Mon, May 19, 2008 12:00:21 am EDT from 70.237.249.216