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Wow, I have no idea how but I dropped what I was saying mid-sentence. That last post should read:

I looked at my itnerary (something I should have done in the first place) and I actually arrive at LAX at 7 AM. Apparently, I was thinking of my first attempt to book a flight when I said 10 am. Anyone around LAX sometime around but not neccessarily at 7 and is willing to split a cab or offer a ride let me know. I will, of course, provide gas money and breakfast.

Lurker - [JohnR783 at hotmail dot com]

GATHERING REQUEST GATHERING REQUEST GATHERING REQUEST

I looked at my itnerary (something I should have done in the first place) and I actually arrive at LAX at 7 AM. Apparently, I was thinking of my first attempt to book a flight when I said 10 am. Anyone around LAX sometime around but not neccessarily at 7 is. Heck, I dont mind bumming around for 2 hours if it means avoiding traffic. I would imagine taking a cab at this time would be even more costly.

Lurker - [JohnR783 at hotmail dot com]

Lurker> I emailed you.

I forgot to mention earlier that I had a Gargoyles dream the other night. I was reading the comics and I came to the end of an issue (can you tell these comics have been on my mind a lot lately?). Int he panels, Constance was fighting with Demona. It was a pretty badass fight. In the end, only one could win of course. Constance apparently had found a human mate, a female human mate. The female part didn't bother Demona, but naturally the human part did, even though this female human was apparently very pro-gargoyle (not surprising, I guess). Anyway, throught the fight Constance kept telling Demona how good for gargoyles this woman was and finally Demona threw Constance into a wall, killing her and with eyes blazing red said, "You should only mate with your kind." or something.

It was way outside of canon and not something I'd even want to happen in the comics... but it was pretty cool. Good art too, if I remember correctly.

Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" -Sevarius, 'Louse'

So, I was going to leave a comment but accidently clicked Last Weeks Comments instead. I was incredibly confused because I thought I accidently clicked comment room and kept thinking, "There's no way this many people could comment. I just checked the room an hour ago."

Anywho, GargoylesLady. That movie is lame. I saw it years ago and it is bad. Feel free to watch it but know that it is a waste of time. IMO at least.

GATHERING REQUEST GATHERING REQUEST GATHERING REQUEST

I will be arriving at LAX on Friday, August 21st at 10 AM. Will anyone be in the area at that time that can offer a ride or split a cab to the hotel? Please email me and let me know.

Also, I will be leaving Monday around 2, I think, I need to check my itinerary. I think my flight is at 4. But if you want to share a cab or can offer a ride, please let me know on that as well.

I will of course provide money for gas if someone were so kind as to offer a ride. PLUS, I will buy them a lunch at In n' Out Burger.

Lurker - [JohnR783 at hotmail dot com]

Anybody heard of the 1972 movie "Gargoyles"? Apparently it's about a clan that was found in the Arizona desert wanting to conquer the world. Sound eerily familiar? Like maybe... Demona?
Gargoyleslady - [kendal dot renfro at yahoo dot com]

Sweet. I have two copies coming my way. Priority mail. I can't wait much longer.

I'll pick up another copy at Starclipper comics when it comes out, another at Amazon and perhaps another at the Gathering.

Multiple copies make great gifts to friends or libraries or whatnot.

I really encourage anyone who can to buy multiple copies. We really need this Trade to sell well. This is our last, best chance.

Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" -Sevarius, 'Louse'

12 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!
Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

@ Mochi: :D Although you didn't need to, well, include all these spoiler tags there, since the thread title alone has a bunch of them, but I guess it's better for those who've not read it nut think about it... ;)

I'm VERY glad to announce then that Mochi has posted the CB:V2-review on the forums!! :D Of course it is full with spoilers. ;) So if you want to read it... check below!

http://gargoyles.freeforums.org/gargoyles-cb-vol-2-spoilers-discussion-reviews-t19.html

Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Gorebash: "I think I or someone else needs to create a "meet other fans" page that describes the various channels available to help people understand there is so much more beyond the CR." Something like the links page found on the last section of this site: http://avmists.gargoyles-fans.org/ReGarg.htm , or is that not quite on the spot?

And does anyone know what was the final word, if there was any, on the Gargoyles News Site(s)?

Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]

*Phew*

I'm glad CB2 is arriving soon. Soon, I won't be the only one posting spoilers...

Speaking of spoilers...

Anonymous & Brook >> [SPOILER] Check the forums! You know you want to... ;D [/SPOILER]

Thanks to those that wished me a happy birthday! :D

The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>^^)> I bought Super Mario Bros. for the DS as a birthday gift to myself...

Might be of interest: http://makampo.blogspot.com/

Antonio Campo has new Mecha-Nation art on his blog header. I don't know how new that image is, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there during his last update on the #1 cover. The folks on the left look rather villainous.

Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

As long as weird Shakespeare interpretations are the topic, I recommend this for Bard fans that are also news/politics junkies: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/04/a_tale_told_by_an_idiot/
Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

Re Macsith: Some years ago, there was a production of "Macbeth" by Robert Brustein that made the Three Witches extra-terrestrials, meddling in Scotland's history as part of a grand scheme (a la "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Childhood's End").
Todd Jensen

Landon: that's hella sweet to hear.. I hope Bad Guys comes out early September at the latest.. *crosses eyes,finger, and toes* :)..

guess that slow boat from China got a high-powered engine :)

Starlioness - [Starlion3 at yahoo dot com]

http://www.lakesuperiortheatre.com/macsith.htm

I thought I would post this link because of it's connection to Macbeth. Opinions anyone.

Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]

Landon > Very true. Ill take your advice. Thanks!

Mochi > Happy Birthday!!! I know the feeling of having classes on your birthday. Last year, I was given a wonderful gift by the college I attend of having two exams on my birthday. Not fun at all. Hope you make up for it by having a fun afternoon :D

Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

Thanks for the good news. I certainly hope that the book does indeed come out on August 12. I've pre-ordered a copy at my local bookstore (I did so a few weeks ago), and I also hope that it'll arrive that day. (I've never pre-ordered at them before - just made regular orders of already published books - so I don't know yet if it'll come in that day or not. I'll have to wait and see.)

Oh, and happy birthday, Mochi.

Todd Jensen

Litwolf - I'd at least wait until the Diamond shipping list comes out on Monday. That should be out by noon Pacific. If CB #2 is a no-go, SLG still might have time to process a Monday order. No one ships on the weekends anyway.

Happy birthday Mochi!

Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

Seriously?! Oh man, thats the best news Ive heard in a long while! Hmm, now should I order it now or wait for Wed? Id rather wait for Wed just because I want to support my comic book store but Im nervous because the store manager said there was no release for next week. Of course, this could be a new development and even the comic stores dont know yet. What should I do?

But either way, HORRAY ITS FINALLY ON ITS WAY TO US!!! :D

Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

Rebel - If you live close to a comic shop that has stocked Gargoyles in the past, I'd go with them. The only way to get it quicker (i.e. Tuesday) would be 1-day shipping, which would be expensive.

For folks living near San Jose, SLG's Art Boutiki is open for two more hours: http://www.slgcomic.com/boutiki You could probably beg for a copy there.

Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

I should of said this in my last comment, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mochi!!! :D
Audra - [birdygirl85 at hotmail dot com]
I <3 Brooklyn

I got that email this morning! I saw that it said, "HEY! NO FAIR I can hear you saying. "You send me this email notice AFTER your 30% off sale ended?"" but I actually didn't see the part that said "In the spirit of fair play SLG is going to extend it's 30% off sale until Saturday August 15th." I didn't notice that part of the email because it was separated by all the pictures of the comics and at the bottom of the email, so I'm really glad you mentioned it! Since the 30% off sale is still going on, I just ordered my copy! :D Getting 30% off is like getting free shipping. I think this would be better then me going back to Barnes and Noble to order a copy, at least I think I would be getting it faster this way... Anyways I'm excited to get my copy!
Audra - [birdygirl85 at hotmail dot com]
I <3 Brooklyn

Patrick > Wow! Thanks for posting that.

I live in Raleigh, North Carolina. Which do you guys think would be better if I want to get the book sooner--waiting until my local comic store gets the book on Wednesday or ordering from SLG now? California is a long way off and I don't know if the book would actually get here before Wednesday if I ordered from SLG.

Rebel

"Good news, everyone!" /Farnsworth

For those who don't get the newsletter e-mail from Slave Labor Graphics, here's the text of the latest that I just received:

* * * * *

The book all of you, okay some of you, have been waiting for is now in stock at SLGCOMIC.COM and ready to ship. Gargoyles: Clan Building Volume Two by Greg Weisman and a cast of dozens should be in your local comics store this week and at Amazon.com the week after. Those of you who cannot wait can get it directly from SLG right now.

HEY! NO FAIR I can hear you saying. "You send me this email notice AFTER your 30% off sale ended?"

In the spirit of fair play SLG is going to extend it's 30% off sale until Saturday August 15th. So come and get it big boy (or girl).

Lots of other new stuff is in now too, so now is never a better time to shop SLG and stimulate our local economy.

* * * * *

And here's a link:

http://www.slgcomic.com/Gargoyles-Clan-Building-Volume-Two_p_1249.html

Woot!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Just thought I'd stop in and (sheepishly) say that today is my birthday. Too bad I had to start the day in school (Saturday morning classes suck regardless), but at least I'll be able to end the day with posting my reviews...

[SPOILER] I turn 29 today... [/SPOILER]

The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> In class on a Saturday morning...and on my birthday too!!

Triskadecaphobes beware!

13 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Andrea> *hugs* That is a lot to take in! My God... well just keep your head above water and try to be rational and wait until Tuesday to get in touch with the court liason...

in the mean time *hugs and cookies*

Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Well, I had a mood uplifter for the day. Something that shouldn't be funny, but it really is.

Anyway, while weed whacking the lawn, dad managed to somehow kick up a rock and have it hurl towards window next to the door (its an encloced deck room with sliding glass doors). Smacked it nearly dead center, cracked the entire thing. Poor guy had to get some scrap wood (to knock the pieces down) and a shop vac to clean it up.

Thankfully, it's double-paned, so while we still need to get it replaced, the inside portion is intact and we're good for the short term.

Considering where the window is (or was) in relation to anything nearby that could be weed whacked, that probably had one in a million chances of ever happening.

And this is just a week after the poor man got stung several times by bees mowing the lawn (thankfully he's not allergic)

Cookies and good karma for my daddy please!


What a day.

Andrea

Mochi- Thanks, that would be greatly appreciated :)
Anonymous

>Thanks, Justin! Are you familiar with Storyseeker's saga?
Gargoyleslady - [kendal dot renfro at yahoo dot com]

GargoylesLady> I'd be happy to be an editor for your stories...
Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

@ Mochi: Since the particular thread in the forum (see link below) has a SPOILER-warning in the title itself - yup, you don't even need to include Spoiler-Tags there. :)
Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Anonymous >> I suppose I could post my review there first before posting it here (and employing as many spoiler tags as I can)...
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> I want my hearing back... Temporary loss of hearing sucks...

I have tried using the forum but no one is talking in there lol. Could someone post a review in there?
Anonymous

Patrick> It's not the bank that's issued my credit card, they're not even recording a declined transaction... it's the place that runs the membership thing, and the representative I contacted said that the people who decline that sort of thing don't tell the support staff why. That doesn't make any sense to me, but then again this same person told me it was the bank's fault and not theirs in the first place.
Kerry (Kth) Boyd

Sorry for the double, but *hugs Andrea and her friend* I'm really sorry. There's nothing that will mess up everything faster than legal crap. I really hope they can change the date.
Kerry (Kth) Boyd

Kerry > The bank that issued your card should be telling you why. There are a few banks out there that are notoriously bad about declining to process online transactions. I read rants about them all the time on the Second Life and City of Heroes MMORPG forums.
Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Get an attorney would be my words of wisdom. I can't believe for something like this, a person wouldn't have one already. Family court is no place for someone with no legal training to be attempting to represent herself. An attorney might be able to appear on a person's behalf or file for a postponement of the hearing.
Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Meh. I guess no Blue Mug membership for me. They declined my only credit card and won't tell me why, so unless another payment option opens up, I can't join. -..-
Kerry (Kth) Boyd

Hey, guys. I'm in serious need of an editor for my stories. Anybody willing to do it?
Gargoyleslady - [kendal dot renfro at yahoo dot com]

Oh Joy.

My friend apparently got a letter in the mail for a court summons regarding her ongoing issues with her abandoned husband (& the child they have)...on the day we leave for California. She gets the summons NOW and the appearance is in less than 2 weeks (cutting it close there)?

She called them up and told them she'd be out of town for a trip that was pre-planed that cannot be cancelled, and that we have PROOF of said reservations. First they told her tough crap, then they told her to call her case worker to see what can be done.

Called up case worker, its out of his hands (legitimately; he has no control/involvement whatsoever about this court summons), she has to talk to the middle man between his agency and the courts, who are only in on Tuesdays.

If she doesn't show up, apparently they are going to take away her benefits, which she has to support her child (with the economy, she had issues finding a job [shortly before her maternity leave, the store she worked at shut down], and when she got one, it aggrivated a perviously dormant condition, which now prevents her from working many types of jobs, and has already filed to go on disability as a result).

So right now, I have no idea what we're going to do regarding the trip at all. Unless she can get this date changed, she's screwed one way or the other; and if she has to attend, I'm also screwed out the money I'm paying to take her with me.

This is going to be a LOOOOOONG weekend for us.


Any words of wisdom/hugs/cookies/anything about crap like this?

Andrea

@ Mochi, Anonymous, Litwolf: http://gargoyles.freeforums.org/gargoyles-cb-vol-2-spoilers-discussion-reviews-t19.html

;)

It'd be awesome to, sort of, collect all the reviews in there. However, the spoilage will be massive, so if you *only* want to know if Katana has a beak, it's not so cool to look here.

Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Please be aware that we don't even know yet how many copies of the trades will be available at The Gathering. I know everyone is eager to get their hands on the books, but it may not be possible to set aside copies for people who are not attending. The books will be available through other sources soon enough after the Gathering, and it's only fair that the those fans attending the convention get a chance to buy them first.

14 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Mochi > I got your email. Thanks so much for your answers! It made my morning! :D
Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

Anyone who is going to the Gathering want to take me up on my offer. I send you money, you go to the Gathering and buy the 3 trade papberbacks for me and send them to me. Let me know.
Adam - [carl006_1999 at yahoo dot com]

Starlioness & Litwolf >> E-mail has been sent! Enjoy! :D
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> I want my hearing back...

So, I went to Barnes and Noble today to pre-order the trade paperbacks. They tried to pre-order Clan Building Volume 2 for me, but in their system it said it was supposed to be released July 29, so they said they can't even pre-order it for me until they get a new release date. (Even though I told him I have been checking online and it should be released within a month) Well sheesh, I wish I pre-ordered it before July 29. -_- But I can keep calling back every few days or so and ask them if I can pre-order it, but I just feel stupid calling so often to do that. I was however, able to pre-order the Bad Guys Trade Paperback. It said in their system that the release date is August 25.
Audra - [birdygirl85 at hotmail dot com]
I <3 Brooklyn

Greg B: yeah, I figured that out after I posted my comment :p...

Spoilers:.. maybe it'd be better to discuss at the Free forums?.. I don't think Mochi would wan't to send a bunch of e-mails to everybody :)

Starlioness - [Starlion3 at yahoo dot com]

So i would really like to read spoilers because I think they make it more fun but I see that no one is posting them here in benefit for the people who dont want to read them so I was just wondering were can I go to read spoilers and maybe see Katanna? :)
Anonymous

Glad people are enjoying the new issues. I just ordered mine from amazon, but they're not going to be here until around the 20th. So I'm hiding from this room (I know, I haven't really been around, but I've been lurking), and once I've read them, I'll be in here to discuss.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

Mochi > Thanks so much! Yeah, Im too curious to wait. Its not that big of a spoiler to me, anyway. Ill send you an email so you know where to send it. Thanks again! And I shall keep in mind that you are of the male variety :)
Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

<<oh yeah, about those 18 issues in that special cover. Did Dan Vado mean that Bad Guys would be in that case or 6 more Gargoyles issues?>>

I am pretty sure he meant that "Bad Guys" would be in there.

Greg Bishansky - [<----- Gathering 2009]

hey Mochi? can you send me a test e-mail?.. I can't seem to send you an e-mail for some reason..

I'm kinda thinking we may get 1 comic this month and the other in September.. since we never had 2 comics in the same month.. I would think early September would be a worst case scenario to get either comic.. (I hope ;p)..

oh yeah, about those 18 issues in that special cover. Did Dan Vado mean that Bad Guys would be in that case or 6 more Gargoyles issues?

Starlioness - [Starlion3 at yahoo dot com]

Starlioness & Litwolf >> I will be more than happy to answer that question...as soon as I get home from school (I have class in 30 minutes).

By the way, I'm a guy... ;)

[SPOILER] My review for issue #9 will be posted within the next 72 hours! Issued #10 will soon follow! [/SPOILER]

The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> I can barely hear anything...

LITWOLF - I was also wondering whether they might have delayed the publication of "Bad Guys" until "Clan-Building Volume Two" comes out. But I don't know enough about the industry to know how likely that is.
Todd Jensen

Starlioness > In regards to your spoiler'ed question, Mochi would be the poster to ask as s/he has volume two. That particular question has been one Ive thought about as well and was considering asking Mochi. Maybe I will, since the trades have been pushed back.

Delays > I managed to stop by my comic store today to check for Gargoyles. No such luck. However, the store manager said that he knows for a fact that at least one of the trades will be out before the end of August. He said he knows its not coming out next week, because its not on his shipping list, but that any week after that looks good for a release. I told him Ive following along online with other fans and our excitement for its release and he said he understood.

As far as Im concerned, Im gonna call that good news because it means that Ill have at least one of the trades in hand before I head back to college.

Question for you guys: do you think Bad Guys was delayed because they really want to release it after Clan-Building: Volume Two? Is the order of the releases that important that they want to wait until volume two makes it through customs? Or do you think there was a different kind of issue?

Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

hmmm.. Tachi being a cross betwenn Lex and B.way would be interesting.. maybe she would be bald (for all we know, Katana could be bald, or have a crest like Turquesa and Obsidiana )have Broadway's ears, and Lex's wings.. (or maybe wings that attach to the arms of the body like Lex's does. I think the "eaglegoyle" of Heritage (yeah, I know it wasn't a real gargoyle but stay with me ) had similar wings to Lex's but feathered..

but I'm really wondering if [SPOILER] (at the risk of sounding spoilerish) if Katana or Nashville will have beaks or long noses, if the Original Tengu were said to have long noses or beaks I'm wondering Katana or Nashville wil have that as well, on the flip side. it would be cool if Nash didn't have a beak. [/SPOILER]..

Starlioness

Sorry for the double

Hey thanks again to Landon, Demonskrye, Matt, and Asatira for welcoming me!

*gorges myself on cookies*

Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Greg B> Haha nice joke! Yeah I knew Tachi would be brought back as an egg. But I was kind of going along with Demonskrye's thought of gargoyles resembling there same sex parents, etc.
Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Demonskrye> Of course, but since Lex and Broadway is in the picture, someone had to make a joke in response.
Antiyonder - [antiyonder at yahoo dot com]
Algernon's comment about Norman Osborn: One of the neat things about Dark Reign is that it gives Osborn the chance to expand his horizons beyond tormenting a twenty nine year old who still lives with his mom.

Just so we're all clear, Greg B was pointing out that Tachi will resemble the individuals at the bottom of that screenshot, unless Greg W has changed his mind about her still being an unhatched egg when Brooklyn returns from his timedancing.
Demonskrye - [<---"Kiki's Delivery Service" at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Greg B> So Taichi will resemble either Lexington or Broadway? Awesome!
Antiyonder - [antiyonder at yahoo dot com]
Algernon's comment about Norman Osborn: One of the neat things about Dark Reign is that it gives Osborn the chance to expand his horizons beyond tormenting a twenty nine year old who still lives with his mom.

Good to read Greg Weisman's ramble. Called it last week!

I'm sure Greg Weisman has heard about the delays and maybe he'll ask Dan Vado to FEDEX a couple copies to The Gathering.
Anthony Tini
posted @ Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:07:37 pm EDT from

Anthony Tini

Since I was struck with tragedy (more or less - in fact I don't know to which extent) today, I just wanted to popp in briefly and exclaim that there's currently discussion of CB:V2 over at the forum:

http://gargoyles.freeforums.org/gargoyles-cb-vol-2-spoilers-discussion-reviews-t19.html

Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Todd, you have no idea how often I make such a typo; usually I say CAN half the time I mean CAN'T. I actually didn't even pick up on the error until you corrected yourself, since I knew exactly what you meant. Yay speedreading!

Aaron - I'll take a pin for myself and my friend.


Speaking of generic spoilers, I swear I'm the only person I know who LOVES hearing them, and most of the time, unless it's a surpise/twist ending, it doesn't ruin it for me at all. I find it more fun to know something that happens at the end, and wonder what happened (or how) in between (like a 'it's not the destination, it's the joruney' philosphy kind of thing). This is especially true when it comes to visual mediums, since even knowing the entire plot beforehand doesn't stop me from enjoying the eye candy. I'm weird like that I guess.

And on the topic of Comics, I got 6 copies of Fullmetal Alchemist Manga for xmas (up to volume 17), and I've only read like, 2 of them. And to think they're comming out with 20 next month; I've had these things for 7 months and I'm still behind!

I should go back and read the first 6 of Gargoyles I have if I can ever find where on my bookshelf I put them. Seriously, the thing has so many books and comics and whatnot from my entire life and is overflowing.

Andrea

Hi, Justin! Welcome to the room. Hope you have fun.
Asatira

Justin> I think a lot of us have been eagerly anticipating the reveal of Brooklyn's family for years. As Greg B pointed out, Tachi will still be an egg when Brooklyn returns to the present day, so we won't know what she looks like yet. But we will know what he mother looks like and if Nashville follows the general gargoyle pattern of resembling his same sex parent with the coloration of the opposite sex parent, we can probably make an educated guess as to what Tachi might look like.

I'm guessing that Katana will have dark hair like most members of the modern day Ishimura Clan and I think it may have been established that she wields an an actual katana. Again, I think Nashville probably looks something like a younger Brooklyn with Katana's coloration. Fu-Dog probably resembles Chinese fu-dog statues. But those are all just guesses and hopefully in a few weeks, we'll know for sure.

Demonskrye - [<---"Kiki's Delivery Service" at The Ink and Pixel Club]

That last sentence should read: "I hope we're *not* in for a lot of sniffing at each other's rear ends". (I am going to have to proofread these posts far more closely.)
Todd Jensen

I hope that at least one of the trade paperbacks comes out on August 19; that would be the day just before my birthday. I still remember fondly how "Bad Guys" #4 came out directly on my birthday last year. (It's also the last Wednesday before the Gathering.)

One consequence of Brooklyn's bringing those new gargoyles back from his Timedancing: now for the first time, the Manhattan clan will have non-Scottish members (I count Angela as Scottish; she and her fellow Avalon gargoyles were the offspring of Scottish gargoyles, and raised by Scottish humans). We know that Katana's Japanese, and Fu-Dog's apparently Chinese. (I also look forward to seeing how Bronx and Fu-Dog respond to each other. I hope we're in for a lot of sniffing at each other's rear ends.)

Todd Jensen

Yay! Sounds like I'll be buying my copies of the trades at the con rather than waiting around for Amazon.com.

15 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Bishansky >> Nice! XD
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>T.T)> Can't hear in my right ear...

Justin> Based on what Greg Weisman has said in the past, assuming he hasn't changed his mind, this is what Tachi will look like:

http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/e/e6/Eggs.jpg

Greg Bishansky - [<----- Gathering 2009]

Hey guys,

this may be off topic but I am curious....

With the trades coming out is anyone else excited to finally see what Katana, Nashville, and Tachi will look like?

Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Great. Now if only they would come out, so the people who can't afford The Gathering could still attain a copy or two...
KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra582 at gmail dot com]
Grr. Arg.

Is there anyone who is attending the Gathering who would be willing to purchase a set of the TPBs for me. Let me know.
Adam - [Carlson]

And now I just saw Greg's ramble today, assuring fans that the Trades will be for sale at the Gathering, quelling my fears that I'd be attending and worrying about accidentally hearing spoilers in person (a fear I don't think I've ever considered before . . . it always been an 'online' issue d:).

Still, here's hoping that they get released before . . .

Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Litwolf: I called my shop today as well -- no go on the Bad Guys Trade, as was expected :( Oh well -- What's a few more weeks this point in the wait? (**Goes to watch trailers on YouTube once more . . .)

Adam: If you do pull a 'Cartman' and unintentionally overshoot your hibernation, do yourself a favor and call one of us instead of yourself -- we might just be listening type d:

Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Justin> Welcome. Have a cookie. *Points to the cookie table*

Gore> Thanks for your post. Well said and glad to hear all of it. I totally agree with you on all of it.

Litwolf> I called up Starclipper comics today and they said no Bad Guys yet. They did tell me that Bad Guys would be coming out on the 26th, though I don't know where they got that information.

Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" -Sevarius, 'Louse'

Justin - Welcome! Take off your shoes and stay a while! I hope you enjoy the Comment Room!

So, did anyone get a chance today to stop by their comic/book store and see if Bad Guys had come out? Just in case the lists were wrong? I won't be able to see for myself until the weekend. But my comic store hasn't called me like they said they world...

Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

Landon> Yeah I do know multiple conversations happen here all the time, so yeah perhaps I do need to be more persistent in my efforts.

Demonskrye> Well it wouldn't necessarily read as insincere but I do appreciate your open invitation!

As to your questions? I own all the DVD's and the comics and I'm of course waiting for the trades.

No questions as of yet or anything.

Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Adam >> In that case, you probably don't want to read the reviews I'll be posting soon. It'll have numerous spoilers...
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>_-_)> Still sick...

i don't know what to do. It is extremely tempting to ask someone for spoilers for CB2, but I don't want ruin it for myself. I tried that once with a Star Wars novel and it ruined the novel for me. Maybe I should pull a Cartman and freeze myself for a month.
Adam - [carl006_1999 at yahoo dot com]

Gorebash> Thanks for looking into my problem. We're still running IE 6 at work so I'm not surprised there are errors.

I also get this error using IE 6.
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URL: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/comment/

Anthony Tini

@ Gore: Ah, allright. Guess then the pimping will take larger amounts. ;)

My original plan was to create it and pass it on to the first who wants it, but as of now, it seems as if it's good to keep it "going" a bit. ;)

Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Anthony Tini: your browser is converting three periods into an ellipsis, which is not a standard ASCII character, thus all the garbage. I've got a few filters in place to find an replace this garbage with the intended values, I just need to add another for the ellipsis it seems.

Brook: You are mistaken if you think I am bound by the results of the poll. My intent in taking the poll was to gauge how people feel about the current CR versus a traditional forum system. If I saw a very large swing towards a forum I would have looked into the possibility of creating one. However there was no large swing. Furthermore comments here in the CR tended along the lines of "I'd prefer a forum because of X" where X was some feature (such as spoiler tags) which the CR does not have. Now that I have a better idea of what people are looking for I can work to improve the CR by adding some of these features, such as the spoiler tag.

However there are some, such as yourself, which strongly prefer a forum system. Rather than reinventing the wheel I think we should direct everyone to the already existing forum that you set up. I think those that prefer a forum structure should start making use of the site as well as to promote it here in the CR. Take for example Justin. Here's an opportunity for you to say something like, "Hi Justin. Hey, we've got a Gargoyles forum setup at http://gargoyles.freeforums.org/ that you should check out. Your posts won't get lost like they do here in the CR." Pimp your forum! It's not like there's some sort of rule against it. Hell, I pimp your forum in here quite a lot.

I also think it's better to have any Gargoyles forum not hosted on s8. Suppose someone comes in here with an opinion I so strongly disagree with that I block them from this web site. If the communication center of the fandom is here then that person is effectively blocked out of the fandom. By spreading the comm channels out a bit we protect the fandom from a single individual being able to take control of it. It also helps to spread the word a bit more by having multiple web sites devoted to the show. It helps with search engine results and it better represents that Gargoyels has wide base of fans.

I like the format of the CR. I like that everything is in one place. I like that there can be three conversations going on at once. There's a certain feeling (I dare call it "charm") to the place because of this mild chaos. It also has a 10+ year tradition behind it. It's very hard to just drop something with that kind of history. I don't plan on getting rid of it. I do plan to continue improving it (as seen with the spoiler tags).

I think I or someone else needs to create a "meet other fans" page that describes the various channels available to help people understand there is so much more beyond the CR. I think those that manage these channels, such as forums, LJ communities, Facebook groups, etc should get more active in promoting their group/site by regularly posting here in the CR as well as on other sites to advertise their group/site. Cross-promote and cross-post like crazy. Create a kind of Gargoyles social network so that regardless of what node a person attaches themselves to (such as signing up for a Facebook group) they are going to find out about anything/everything that's going on the Gargoyles fandom.

I think that's what should be happening.

Gorebash

Potential "Gargoyles" Omnibus Hardcover> If anyone is going to be reporting on this elsewhere PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE emphasize that there are no current plans for this collection to be published and that any such book becoming a reality would likely be contingent on good sales of the upcoming trades. The last thing we need is people seeing this news and saying "There's a full-sized hardcover of all eighteen comics coming out? Oh good, then I can just skip the trade paperbacks!"

Justin> Because I feel like it would be insincere, I'm not going to say "Yes, I will be your friend!" before I've even had a chance to get to know you and vice versa. But by all means, pull up a chair and stay a while. So, do you have the DVDs? Have you read the comics? Are there any burning questions or insights about either that you've been eager to share?

Demonskrye - [<---"Kiki's Delivery Service" at The Ink and Pixel Club]

@ Landon: Yeah, I really like how the room voted for a forum, yet still none in existence, except for the freeforums one...
Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Justin - Sometimes you have to be pretty persistent to get noticed around here. There are often multiple conversations going on at the same time and many more lurkers than posters. I'd suggest trying to strike up a conversation (but people will generally only post if they're interested). If you want a few options to meet people, you could also check out the Gargoyles Watch community: http://community.livejournal.com/gargoyles_watch/ and the Gathering: http://www.gatheringofthegargoyles.com/g2009/
Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

Hey guys,

I've been lurking on and off here for years. And it just occurred to me today that, I am out of touch with the Gargoyles community and would love to make new friends in the fandom again.


I hope this post doesn't go as unnoticed as some of mine have been in the past.

Justin - [justin dot lindley at gmail dot com]

Off-Topic: Since there are some in here who watched Captain N, I thought I'd share the Nostalgia Critic's review:

http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/2440105/

Antiyonder - [antiyonder at yahoo dot com]
Algernon's comment about Norman Osborn: One of the neat things about Dark Reign is that it gives Osborn the chance to expand his horizons beyond tormenting a twenty nine year old who still lives with his mom.

Landon >> That. Is. AWESOME!
The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>_-_)> Still sick...

Landon: Another bit of news that's also a consolation of sorts. Though I too wouldn't put much stock into it -- as you pointed out, there are no official plans just yet -- It's still an exciting bit of info.

If sales of the current Trades were good enough to give it merit, it WOULD be a good thing for SLG to have in the interim period between licenses (should they get another one with Disney), at least in the sense of keeping the property alive.

Kudos to Dan Vado's continuing and vocal support for the series . . . you can tell this guy's trying his best.

Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka

CBR covers the SLG panel: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22403

"Eventually, Vado would like to produce an ultimate collection that would include all 18 issues of "Gargoyles" in an oversized slipcase. He'd love to have the book itself look and feel like stone as a tribute to the nocturnal winged heroes."

That would be awesome, especially since we'd get to see the unpublished issues in full size. The Wonderland hardcover turned out beautifully. It's important to note that he said "would like to", i.e. there are no current plans. It might only happen if the trades sell well enough to indicate enough interest in such an expensive printing.

Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

The person in question was a film student at a Chicago university and I doubt we'll see him again. He did a nice job of ignoring all attempts at contact after the con was over. And people wonder why after ten years of these cons I'm leery of anyone wanting a free pass as "media."

17 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Todd > That is a sad but true possibility. Hopefully, the guy will be more honest and nice than that.
Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

LITWOLF - Maybe the guy is anticipating being asked those questions, and has made plans to be as far away from the Gathering as possible. :)
Todd Jensen

Interesting. In my search for "thermal" in the Ask Greg archives, I could have sworn that it had been explicitly confirmed that gargoyles absorbed thermal energy during the day, but that was only ever implied. And Sevarius is hardly a reliable source.

Touche, Greg.

Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

Paul> That was just Sevarius's theory. No one said if he guessed right.
Greg Bishansky - [<----- Gathering 2009]

I hope that nobody objects to me asking these questions about the gargoyles' stone sleep (and, more specifically, their energy absorption while in stone sleep).

1. Given that black objects absorb heat and light more efficiently than objects of other colors, why don't gargoyles turn black during the day?

2. Does Demona still absorb thermal energy during the day since Puck put the human-by-day spell on her, does the spell itself compensate for her loss of that ability, or does she have to compensate in some other way? (And if the last, what other way?)

3. Is Broadway's energy-absorbing capability less efficient than that of other gargoyles, or is there some other reason why he has a much greater appetite?

Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

Just in case you had any doubt Greg's "nostalgia periscope" wasn't stuck smack on the '80s: http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/movieilne-presents-the-never-before-seen-concept-art-for-warner-bros-thundercats.php
Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

Demonskrye - I wouldn't bug SLG. Diamond is their lifeblood; we won't be telling them anything they don't know and waving shipping lists in their face is pestering IMHO.
Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

Oh, sorry, forgot I wanted to add:

Patrick > Bummer! And I was all excited to watch the Radio Play when the comic was finally released. Well, maybe the guy who recorded for you last year will be at this year's Gathering and you can question him about what happened to the video.

Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

More Delays > Even though its not surprising, it still is a major disappointment. Ill still drop by my comic store on Wednesday anyway. Maybe they have better information on a release date for the comics.
Litwolf
<Be happy for me and for all who fly free.> - Tobias of Animorphs

Bummer.
Rebel

Rebel > Only problem with that their is we don't HAVE the video from last year. The guy who was filming never gave us copies of anything. And believe me, I feel pretty stupid now for not taking my own camcorder.
Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

If it's okay for people to post spoilers about CB2 even though it hasn't come out nationwide yet, then it must also be okay to post the video from last year's radio play on Youtube. After all, the whole reason for not posting it was because of spoilers, right?
Rebel

Drat, hate to have been the first one to do that and I sincerely apologize. Eish we had the ability to edit posts along with the new tags.

Gore, any chance you could fix or delete that?

Demonskrye - [<---"Kiki's Delivery Service" at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Tony> I could try to check, but it's not like I have an inside line to SLG or anything. All I did was reply to one of their Livejournal posts with a question. So maybe it would be better for someone else to ask. Aside from it keeping me from seeming annoying, it kind of communicates better that there are at least a few people interested in "Gargoyles" rather than just one.

Radio Play> [SPOILER] That's interesting. Is this the first time the radio play has featured a script that was written specifically for the Gathering? [/SPOILER]

Demonskrye - [<---"Kiki's Delivery Service" at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Radio Play: Considering today's downer about Bad Guys, this is a nice consolation prize.

Speaking of which, I think I'll stop by my comic shop Wednesday just in case . . . I don't expect to be proven wrong, but it'll be a chance to wear my Gargoyles T-shirt at a comic shop. Maybe get a head-shivel or two d:

And Aaron, I'll take a pin and a magnet :)

. . . which also reminds me . . . what was that link that had all those Gargoyles Tees, like the Phoenix Gate and "I Beleive!" ?

Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Aww... I wanted to spoil it...

Oh well...

Still working on my reviews though...

The One Known As Mochi - [shogi dot keima dot 08 at gmail dot com]
Current Mood: (>_-_)> Sick...

[SPOILER] No kidding! At least the crossover shouldn't be that difficult to do, since the regulars of both series live in Manhattan. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen

Kicks ass, but I'd rather liked to have heard/seen [SPOILER] the first "Episode" of what woulc be the next comic-arc. [/SPOILER]
Brook
I agree with Rebel on EVERYTHING she says!!

Greg has revealed the Radio Play for this year's Gathering (spoilerfied in case you don't want to ruin the surprise): [SPOILER] "Weisman adds that many of these actors will be participating in Radio Play, with actors performing with fans in an original The Spectacular Spider-Man/Gargoyles crossover story." [/SPOILER]

Source: http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=361

Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

After all the past delays afflicting the issues of "Gargoyles", I'm afraid that this news doesn't shock me. Though I am curious whether this kind of thing happens to Slave Labor Graphics' products in general, or if it seems to single out the "Gargoyles" material.
Todd Jensen

Gorebash> It appears when I type three periods in a row, it posts it as this string of characters: ….
Anthony Tini

Landon> Thanks for posting the news. So according to Diamond what that means is that "Gargoyles Bad Guys Vol 1" is NOT coming out this week and it's NOT slated to come out next week.

So the delays continue…

Demonskrye> Maybe you can get us more information from SLG like you did last week… They did say Bad Guys would be in stores first, but they didn't say when. Maybe you can get a specific date?! Thanks.

Anthony Tini

Wish i was going to the gathering. would love a Phoenix gate pin AND magnet. Oh well. U snooze, U loose.
Wingless

After making a brief appearance last week, Bad Guys now disappeared from both lists:

http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/newreleases.txt
http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/upcomingreleases.txt

No mention of Clan-Building volume 2 either. If this isn't a mistake, there's one chance left for either book to be out by the Gathering.

Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

And I'll take a magnet, Aaron.
Landon Thomas - [lumpmoose at gmail dot com]

Aaron> I'd like a pin, so you can count me as a customer.
Karine "Kanthara" Charlebois - [kanthara at gmail dot com]
I kick ass and take names.

Audra> Here's the pre-order webpage for Bad Guys Vol 1 on Barnes & Noble. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Gargoyles/Greg-Weisman/e/9781593621933/?itm=1
Please note that the picture is incorrect.

Here's the pre-order information on both trades from SLG.

Gargoyles: Clan Building Volume Two
Diamond code: MAY090629
ISBN: 978-1-59362-167-4

Gargoyles: Bad Guys Trade Paperback
Diamond code: JUN09 0673
ISBN: 978-1-59362-193-3

Anthony Tini

(10th) Tenth and away we go on with the show!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]

9th
VickyUK - [vickyfanofwwe at aol dot com]

THIRD BASE!!

Oh wait, Eighth d:

Phoenician
"The Suspense is Terrible . . . I Hope it Lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Uh, 7th? Anyways I wanted to say I didn't know you could pre-order the comics at Barnes and Noble, I thought it had to be comic book stores only. If that is the case, that's great for me since a Barnes and Noble store is a lot closer to where I live then a comic book shop. I'll go to Barnes and Noble tomorrow and ask them if I can pre-order both trades. I got the pre-order info for Gargoyles: Clan Building Volume Two on SLG's website. I can't find the pre-order info for the Bad Guys trade though…
Audra - [birdygirl85 at hotmail dot com]

sixth
oneuke

5th in the hopes of getting positive news about the trade(s) this week.
KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra582 at gmail dot com]
Grr. Arg.

Fourth!
Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" -Sevarius, 'Louse'

What's On Second
Me I guess

Wingless

Hello everyone this year at the Gathering I will be selling some Phoenix Gate pins that I made. My goal is to make at least 20 of them. I would like to make more but it takes time to make them. Since I am a procrastinator I wait to the last minute to start them. They will be bigger than a quarter. They will be about $10.00 it might be a little less if I can make more of them. On a few of them I put a magnet in them instead of a pin. I was just wondering if anyone would have an interest in getting one? So I know if I should try and make more. Here is a photo I am not sure I got the link right. Thanks Aaron.
Aaron AKA Halloweenking - [halloweenking28 at yahoo dot com]

Who's on FIRST!

18 days left until the 13th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles in Los Angeles, CA!

Patrick - [<-- Gathering 2009]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka