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Comments for the week ending November 6, 2011

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At least "The Room" can be a source of both intentional and unintentional humor. (That is, if the gang at TGWTG.com has anything to do with it.)

Birdemic, however is something else entirely. (Okay, the "Coat Hanger Battle" is still hilarious no matter what!)

Anonymous

Wow, "Dexter" was pretty epic tonight, and it looks like it's going to be even more epic next week.

BATTLE BEAST> I blogged about "The Room" a few months back, here's the link:

http://gregxb.blogspot.com/2011/07/tommy-wiseau-hates-women.html

In short, it was the most sexist thing I've ever watched.

Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

Richard> thanks for posting that. Wonka is one of my all-time favorite movies... sad news, indeed.

Greg B.> Since you've seen The Room, just how bad did you think it was?

Battle Beast - [Canada]
I DID IT!!! I WATCHED ALL 485 BEST PICTURE NOMINEES IN ONE YEAR!!!

Phoenician & Patrick: I see from your quotes that you're Willy Wonka fans. I prefer the Gene Wilder version myself. Did you see that one of the actors from the movie died this week?
http://news.yahoo.com/wonka-actor-played-violets-dad-dies-87-032005302.html

Richard Jackson

-sighs and shakes head-
faytefire

Greg, sigh... no you don't. Shutting up now.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

GXB = Do I really have to say it?
Greg Weisman

Whenever I read one of Jonny's posts, I hear the voice of Tommy Wiseau. Come to think of it, Wiseau's character in "The Room" was named Jonny. Let's hope our Jonny has a similar fate to that Jonny.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

*Sigh*
Battle Beast - [Canada]
I DID IT!!! I WATCHED ALL 485 BEST PICTURE NOMINEES IN ONE YEAR!!!

My recommendation? Please stop posting, everyone, until the room clears tonight. We'll start fresh in the coming week.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!" - Freddie Mercury of Queen

*lol*
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!

*sigh*
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"... And if we did it before, we can do it again." "And we will. Together." - Goliath and Elisa, "The Edge"

Looks like Jonny Modlin is off his MED's. I suppose that's what happens when people try to make fun of the mentally handicapped. You guys should stop teasing him so he'll start retaking his medication again. If you don't his spam will no doubt get worse and more annoying. I heard he was so annoying once an entire website was shutdown in retaliation last time he stopped taking his med's.
Vinnie - [tpeano29@hotmail.com]
God Bless you All!

Is Disney going to release the rest of Gargoyles series on DVD of Season 2, Volume 2 and Season 3 in 2012? How did Disney change their minds about releasing the rest of Gargoyles series on DVD for 2012?
Jonny Modlin - [jmodlin210@gmail.com]
Jonny

***digs behind the couch and pulls out the "Don't Feed the Trolls" sign*** Hmm, I wonder how that got stuck back there . . .

Of course the news is tentative, and like most of us here, I know these recent responses don't mean anything till we hear something more definitively official and concrete. That said, this is (for the most part) "positive" news for a change, even when its so obviously (and frustratingly) speculative.

Anyways, I know I've mentioned my joy of Equivocation (the play that Greg Weisman saw at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival a few years back that he couldn't but give the whole experience a heap of praise in one of his rambles) in the CR before, but since yesterday was Guy Fawkes Night, I realized {while watching V for Vendetta} that I still have to submit my thoughts about the play to Greg . . . I had forgotten that when I did finally had a chance to read the playscript last summer, the queue was still closed to give Greg a chance to catch up during Young Justice's hiatus d:

Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts," -- Willy Wonka

Have we heard from Disney that they will release the rest of Gargoyles Series on DVD in 2012 of Season 2, Volume 2 and Season 3?
Jonny Modlin - [jmodlin210@gmail.com]
Jonny Modlin

Jonny: I got an email from a Disney rep, who said that they would only release the rest of the series on DVD if you go to your kitchen, open the cabinets underneath the sink, and drink everything you find there.

Get to it, kid, for the good of the fandom! Chug, chug, chug, chug!

Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"This is not war! This is pest control!" -Dalek Sec ("Doctor Who")

Oh, yes... Jonny. That's exactly what they are doing.

Not only that, but they aren't going to include TGC, they're making a new third season under the direction of Greg Weisman that's based on the comics! In fact, also adapting "Religious Studies 101: A Handful of Thorns" into an animated movie in a joint project with Sony! In fact, "Bad Guys" is being animated and is going to be a part of this set to! In fact, Disney hired Edmund Tsabard to come in and work with Greg to create an in-continuity porno that will show us, in great detail the first time Goliath and Elisa make love; and a sequence where Demona rubs one off while remembering sex she she had with Goliath and Thailog, not to mention when she let Macbeth get to second base while she was seducing him as Dominique! In fact, President Obama is going to travel around the country and personally deliver copies of this set to fans who have been waiting, and give them all a Medal of Honor!

Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

Will the world end on December 21, 2012?
Neill - [neillgargoyle(at)gmail.com]

Is Disney going to release the rest of Gargoyles Season 2, Volume 2 and Season 3 both on DVD in 2012 and also a complete series box set of Gargoyles?
Jonny Modlin - [jmodlin210@gmail.com]

I'm suspecting that the "tentative plans" for 2012 involve releasing the entire series as a box set, possibly along with the rest of the Disney Afternoon. And you know what? I will HAPPILY buy it ALL if I must to get "Gargoyles", even though I already own Season 1 and Season 2, Volume 1.

Jonny... you have been around here for YEARS preaching to the choir about bugging Disney for this... and now you come out and say you're not going to be interested unless it it's only Season 2, Volume 2? I have a lot of words I could say to that, but none of them are suitable for the content rating Gorebash wants for this forum.

Patrick
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

Why do they have tentative plans to release the rest of Gargoyles series in 2012? I already own Gargoyles Season 1 and Season 2, Volume 1 both on DVD and will buy Season 2, Volume 2 of Gargoyles on DVD if/when its released to complete the series and won't buy The Goliath Chronicles on DVD because it is not a great show.
Jonny Modlin - [jmodlin210@gmail.com]
Jonny Modlin

JONNY> For the love of all that is holy, we've been doing just that! And yes, they've said they have tentative plans to release the series.

But here's the thing... you're preaching to the choir! We know! WE KNOW!!! Hell, you're not just preaching to the choir, you're opening the damn Bible up and preaching directly into it!

Go elsewhere, spread the word!

Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

Please get everyone to email Disney which is disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com to ask them to release Gargoyles Season 2, Volume 2 on DVD!
Jonny Modlin - [jmodlin210@gmail.com]
Jonny Modlin

[SPOILER] Your Wonder Woman is stunning! Jaw dropping gorgeous ! [/SPOILER]
jasmine

So after the reveals of Ted Tornado's family in "Humanity" I just wanted to know.

1. Any chance of Tomorrow Woman appearing in the series or as her secret identity Clara Kendall? She's both a Justice League member, one of Red Tornado's siblings and both of her creators, Professor Ivo and T.O. Morrow have been featured on the show.

And not a question but thank you so much for your work Greg. I loved watching Gargoyles and Young Justice has been amazing and I'm sure it'll continue to be so.

PyroTwilight - [pyrotwilight@gmail.com]

Something funny just occurred to me
Nolan North must have been recording Failsafe and Uncharted 3 pretty close one to another, and both had some similar feel, at one point or another
And both had quite some WTF moments.
What made me notice it was the way Conner was shouting that really reminded me of Nathan Drake going berserk in chapter 21
another common point is that both Uncharted and Young Justice are both 'mindblowingly' excellent

Denis - [quinceyfordersl@gmail.com]
"How the hell did you do this with just three bullets?!" - Victor Sullivan

Masterdramon: Just caught "Failsafe" myself, and hoo nelly, was it worth waiting the additional week d:

Plus, I finally recognized one of the cameos/guest stars! This time [SPOILER] General Wade Eiling, the four-star general who put Captain Nathaniel Adam in a no-win sitch which ultimately led to his becoming Captain Atom.

Gotta say, from where I'm currently at in the Bates/Weisman run of Captain Atom, it felt cool to see that jerk of a general get disintegrated, hehe. Granted, I guess he went out like Bodhe given the extreme apocalyptic circumstances . . . [/SPOILER]

Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts," -- Willy Wonka

Anyone who has not yet watched today's episode of "Young Justice" should do so immediately. The sheer amount of awesome they managed to pack into 22 minutes is simply astounding.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!" - Freddie Mercury of Queen

Not much happening here this week...
Yesterday when reading the Nightwatch comic again I first realized that John Castaway has the three scars of the hunters in the Quarrymen logo on his uniform. I like to find such small details the more time I spend with Gargoyles.

Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!

I've been enjoying "Once Upon A Time" so far. Taleweaver's quite right about it feeling a bit "patchy"; but I think once it finds its feet it'll be good. They've done a pretty good job of making *Rumplestiltskin* seem frightening, which is quite an accomplishment if you ask me.

I did watch the premire of "Grimm", but I'm trying not to get attached. Being a Friday night show, we all know it won't last the season.

Spen
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is often difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln

i love the gargoyles thety rock
brandon - [mrfuzzydragon12@aol.com]

I read an article about "Once Upon a Time" in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that said that the inspiration for the show was more "Lost" than "Fables".
Todd Jensen

Chip> I thought of mentioning Fables. According to Wikipedia, ABC do actually have the rights to Fables, but the creators of Once Upon A Time aren't familiar with it. In fact, the Wikipedia page for Once Upon A Time has one of the creators of the show saying "I could be wrong, but I think this is the first time anyone's shown Snow White with a sword, [SPOILER] or pregnant [/SPOILER]." Yeah, dude, you're wrong.

(Spoilers are for Fables more than Once Upon a Time.)

Supermorff

Taleweaver and Todd> I think that it's less Disney influenced and more of a ripoff of the comic series "Fables" which also has Jiminy Cricket. From what I understand, the people doing "Once Upon a Time" wanted to do a TV adaptation of "Fables" but couldn't secure the license. So instead, they're trying to rip off the concept while being "different enough" from the comic book that they don't get sued.

I caught the pilots of both of the "Fairy Tale shows" last week, "Once Upon a Time" and "Grimm". I'm of the opinion that Grimm is the better of the two, though I admit that I could be biased. I've already taken offense to "Once Upon a Time's" blatant ripoff premise. Whereas "Grimm" is a pretty original concept, that appears to be pulling it's source material from the Grimm's Fairy Tales and ONLY from there. (Oh, and it has David Greenwalt listed as one of the Executive producers, but what street cred does he have?)

Chip - [<------The League of Extraordinary Nerds Here!]
"An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason." C. S. Lewis

Thanks for the assist Todd. Sorry about dropping some cruicial info on the post. That will teach me to read my post before hitting send.

I'm warming up to 'Once Upon a Time', but I've wondered more than once what if they took a more 'Enchanted' style to it. With Fantasyland looking more animated contrasting against the live action of Storybrooke. Right now, Regina looks evil as Mayor but silly as Evil Queen and Rumple looks skeevy in Maine but villainous in Fantasyland. Very patchwork so far.

Taleweaver - [rfootman@gmail.com]

It's been too long since I wrote "spoilers"; I forgot to put the backwards slash mark in. Sorry about that.
Todd Jensen

TALEWEAVER - I assume you're talking about "Once Upon a Time". (It would be helpful to state which series you're talking about.)

I hadn't thought of Elisa when watching the first two episodes of that series, but I had noticed the Disney influence in the names for the seven dwarfs, Jiminy Cricket, and Maleficient. The characters themselves come from the original stories, but the names were Disney's. (In fact, the cricket has a smaller role in the original book "Pinocchio" by Carlo Collodi; Pinocchio squashes him with a shoe the moment the cricket starts giving him good advice. Though the cricket's ghost shows up a few times in the book thereafter to continue serving as a conscience.)

So far, I've liked the series. It succeeded in giving the evil Queen some pathos in the second episode [SPOILER] (particularly when we learn whom she named young Henry after) [SPOILER]. I also got a kick out of [SPOILER] the magic tree being fashioned into a wardrobe [SPOILER].

Todd Jensen

Just found an amusing Young Justice video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miSS1l5ktJg&feature=colike

Rebel

Hello out there Peabody here. Is anyone else getting an Elisa vibe from the main character Emma? I don't know if its the struggle with dealing fantasy in an urban environment or accepting magic in curses. Or maybe its because she's wearing a bright red bomber jacket, tank top and jeans!
Taleweaver - [rfootman@gmail.com]

Patrick> Thanks for posting that!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
I DID IT!!! I WATCHED ALL 485 BEST PICTURE NOMINEES IN ONE YEAR!!!

Whoo, must have been a low number of trick-or-treaters at the Weisman House . . . 29 responses!

Lurker: Heh, after what went down in "Clan Building," I think the thought of Thailog crashing in on the party was still a little fresh in the head (shame Elisa wasn't dressed up as a Disney Princess again, lol) ;)

GregB: Geez, thats the sort of thing that went down in Cheers? . . . no wonder (according to George Costanza) Ted Danson was getting paid so much d:

Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts," -- Willy Wonka

Looks like a certain someone is celebrating Halloween without the rest of the Clan this year.

http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/

Lurker

Halloween reverses one of its traditional components in "Gargoyles".

Halloween costumes go back to the time when most people believed that witches, ghosts, and other weird creatures really did roam abroad on Halloween night; they would dress up as them so that the witches and ghosts would mistake them for compatriots and not attack them. In the two Halloween "Gargoyles" stories ("Eye of the Beholder" and the Double Date story), the humans mistake the gargoyles for fellow humans in costume (extremely realistic costumes, of course).

Todd Jensen

Greg B.: Wow, based on all that, Diane sounds like even more of a Horrible Person than Betty Brant!

I got neither reference at first; actually, that was part of my motivation to finally read "Much Ado About Nothing" - I hadn't been too familiar with the play before that.

Ross

10TH!!!

And away we go with the show... which is apparently already underway...

Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"... And if we did it before, we can do it again." "And we will. Together." - Goliath and Elisa, "The Edge"

Ninth in the name of the festival of Samhain. And I got both relationship references as well.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!

Happy Halloween, everyone!
Todd Jensen

Spen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing

Count me as another guy who didn't get the Sam/Diane reference one iota. Never watched a lick of "Cheers" or any of its spin-offs.

Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!" - Freddie Mercury of Queen

Oh yeah, and seventh.
Spen
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is often difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln

Greg B. : I *did* get Sam/Diane, but who are Benedick and Beatrice?
Spen
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is often difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln

(6th)Sith!!!!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29@hotmail.com]
God Bless you All!

So, several years back, Greg Weisman described Brooklyn and Katana's relationship as very Sam/Diane. No one got that, so then he described it as Benedick/Beatrice and everyone got that. I got both.

Sam and Diane were a very opposites attract, two very proud people relationship. But, for Brooklyn's sake, I hope it's not EXACTLY the same. Well, we know Greg, it won't be. That was just an example that seemed to fit.

But, since this is Halloween, and it's the day for horror stories, let me tell you all about Sam and Diane, and just imagine this happening to Brooklyn and Katana for a moment. ;)

Okay, so Diane dumps Sam at the end of season two, and dates Frasier. Frasier falls for her and they take a trip to Europe where they plan to get married. Diane keeps calling Sam giving him "chances" to end this. Sam doesn't bite, so Diane suggests to Frasier that they elope in the Italian town they are in. So they are about to, and she leaves him. Not before the marriage, but right at the alter, when the minister asks if she will marry him. She becomes a stripper in Italian bars while Frasier becomes the laughing stock on the Italian countryside.

Frasier: The story of my humiliation spread like wildfire through the university, and then to the entire Italian countryside. Everyone knew about it. Everyone knew about my shame!
Sam: No, you must've been imagining that.
Frasier: Oh, was I? Do you know that in soccer, when a player kicks at the ball, misses, and falls down, it's now called a 'Frasier'?
Sam: That… could be a coincidence.
Frasier: If he's knocked cold it's called a 'Frasier Crane'!

Then she returns and later on, Sam proposes to her on the phone. But she turns him down because she wants him to propose to her in a more romantic setting. He takes her out on a boat, he is being all romantic, and he proposes. She says no... again. This fight ends with her jumping overboard, and Sam leaving her there. She goes back to Cheers and tries to get Frasier to console her, and demands a massage, which he provides. And she is goes on about how he can't know what rejection like this feels like. And he looks like he wants to strangle her.

So, she keeps demanding Sam propose to her and keeps telling her to fuck off, fires her, but she keeps showing up to work anyway. Sam starts dating someone else, and Diane follows them on a romantic weekend, and is happy when the other woman's grandmother dies and she has to leave for the funeral.

Eventually, she breaks down in the bar and starts crying when Sam won't propose. To get her to stop crying, Sam finally proposes. She says no. Sam suddenly has a flash forward to himself on death row for the murder of Diane, and when he flashes out of it, he loses his temper and chases Diane out of the bar. Diane trips and falls but has Sam arrested for assault and battery. And she shows up at the trial in a neck brace and bandages, and says she will drop it if Sam proposes to her, and if not to send him to prison. The judge agrees, Sam proposes... and she says no.

Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

Fifth in the name of just having registered over sixty students to vote in the State of California!

...What does this have to do with the number five, you might ask? Absolutely nothing! But I'm very tired and wished to mention it before collapsing.

Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!" - Freddie Mercury of Queen

Fourth in the name of HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!
Chip - [<------The League of Extraordinary Nerds Here!]
"An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason." C. S. Lewis

Number 3 is here.
KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra582@gmail.com]
Grr. Arg.

SECOND IN THE NAME OF THREE HOURS OF "DEXTER!" Now I'm messed up.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Elisa Maza, why don't you just take that "sodie pop" can and stick the straw right into New York's eye!

FIRST in the name of currently finishing chapter three of Roger Lancelyn Green's take on King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table :)
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts," -- Willy Wonka