Comments for the week ending May 10, 2004

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Interesting experience today ...

I haven't seen most eps of Gargoyles in several years, except for a few caught at conventions, and a very few I have on tape. Most of my tapes were destroyed a couple years after the eps quit airing.

Anyway ... I caught a couple eps on Jetix today. I don't have cable, but I was staying at my dad's cabin which has satellite. :) Not only was the show as good as I remember, I picked up things I never remember seeing the first time, like how GOOD the voice actors really were. Also, it was like watching the show over again brand new, as it's been so long I literally don't remember most of the details. In fact, I'm not sure I ever even saw the first ep that was aired. (Duh, blanking on the name.) And I could have sworn I'd seen all of them.

So looking forward to the DVD. :) It'll be like watching the show over again, fresh and new, almost.

Leva
Leva
Sunday, May 9, 2004 10:59:32 PM
IP: 162.42.84.64

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.

54 days left to submit entries for the Music Video contest (deadline is July 1).
59 days left to reserve your hotel room at the Delta Centre-Ville (deadline is July 6 at noon).
68 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2004 (deadline is July 15).
89 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!

Patrick - [<-get thee to le Gathering]
Sunday, May 9, 2004 03:38:19 PM
IP: 68.21.245.247

Speaking of Hudson's mate and youngest child, I was doing some math the other day, and I noticed something.

According to Greg, as of 12-31-95, Hudson was chronologically 1117, which means he must have hatched in the year 878. It's generally accepted that gargoyles breed every 20 years, and the eggs take 10 years to hatch, so every ten years it's either a breeding season or a hatching.

Since Greg revealed that Broadway is Hudson's biological son, we can take Broadway's chronological age, as of the same date, 12-31-95, which is 1037, and find the year he was hatched, which would be 958, which means Hudson and his nameless mate produced him during the breeding season in 948.

Add twenty years, and we have another breeding season in 968. We know this breeding season produced Bronx, as Bronx's chronological age as of 12-31-95 is 1017, or 20 years less than the Trio.

So, presumably Hudson would have had another child in Bronx's generation, as well as one in the breeding season of 928, which is Goliath's rookery. (A fact I find interesting in and of itself) So that's three children.

But for Hudson to have Hippolytia (sp) his mate must have not only been alive for the breeding season in 988 that produced the Avalon rookery, it also must have been her fourth season, which, according to Greg, is fairly rare.

Which, is interesting, frankly, both for the rarity, and because a lot of people, including me, assumed that Hudson's mate had died sometime between the breeding season in 968 and the earliest flashbacks to Wyvern in the year 971, due to the fact that she's not evident in those flashbacks, or any subsequent ones.

Which means she's either visibly obviously related to Broadway, and Greg didn't want her on camera for that reason, or she wasn't involved in any of the flashbacks for some as yet unknown dramatic reason.

Thoughts?

Aaron
Sunday, May 9, 2004 03:26:11 PM
IP: 172.164.104.120

Ooops. Then that's my bad. Oh well. It'll all work out. I hope. :)

That is all I will say.
Battle Beast
CANADASunday, May 9, 2004 11:51:31 AM
IP: 142.59.132.116

Battle Beast: Hey there! Cool quiz! One thing, though... Greg has never revealed the name of Hudson's mate. He has revealed the name of his daughter, though. Aside from that, yeah, cool quiz. ;)
Demona Taina - [demona3@hotmail.com]
Sunday, May 9, 2004 09:52:09 AM
IP: 172.155.236.23

BATTLE BEAST> nice quiz, but one of them was a trick question as Hudson's mate was never named by Greg. Hippolyta who was an option on that question is Hudson's daughter.
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, May 8, 2004 11:50:45 PM
IP: 216.179.3.163

OK GANG, LISTEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a tacky little "Gargoyles" related Item that I want to part with... a PERFECT addition to any fan's collection!

And I will give it to someone, so I have set up a Quiz. Answer EVERY question. I will randomly pick a winner from the entries with ALL CORRECT ANSWERS.

ANYONE who has been on this board or regularly read ask Greg should be able to get 100%.

Once I have selected a winner, I will get intouch with them to figure out how to send the "item."

THA ADRESS OF THE QUIZ IS

http://school.discovery.com/quizzes28/battlebeast/Gargoyles1.html

OR CLICKY MY NAME

So answer and send away!!!

That is all I will say.
Battle Beast
ALBERTA, CANADA
Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:51:06 PM
IP: 142.59.132.116

I've had at least a few dreams where I was watching a new episode. I don't remember what they were about, though.
Dernhelm
Okla. City
Saturday, May 8, 2004 08:49:35 PM
IP: 68.12.196.86

I had a bizarre dream last night, in which "Gargoyles" had had a fourth season - but can't remember now whether Greg Weisman came back for it or not and whether it treated the Goliath Chronicles as canonical or not. (Since it was only a dream, I doubt that it would matter.) The only thing that I can remember about the contents now was that the season premiere involved Castaway in his relations to Jason and Robyn Canmore and the finale focused on Lexington (and I think that Brooklyn was portrayed as having moved away from the clan, though I don't know why).
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, May 8, 2004 06:40:49 PM
IP: 4.244.18.247

Thanks, Greg.

I bet they're really happy to have him around come fundraiser time.
Alex Garg
VA, USA
Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:54:58 AM
IP: 151.200.36.227

Ah! Thanks Greg!
cairo
Saturday, May 8, 2004 09:15:15 AM
IP: 66.142.159.219

According to Greg, Xanatos did indeed go to college. He went to Dartmouth.
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, May 8, 2004 12:56:11 AM
IP: 216.179.3.163

Me speek no la eng.
???
Saturday, May 8, 2004 12:31:55 AM
IP: 63.189.225.44

Siren, your welcome and e-mail me if you need help of have any questions.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Friday, May 7, 2004 08:49:46 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

I have 2 more videos up. The Massacre from Gargoyles. And Loved By the Sun from Last Unicorn. Click my name

I also have been playing around with the new programs, many thanks!!
Siren
Friday, May 7, 2004 07:55:03 PM
IP: 65.33.112.117

This is getting interesting.

And on those people who think they need a college degree to be a super-rich CEO, I have two words for you: Bill Gates.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Friday, May 7, 2004 07:07:32 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Xanatos & the coin>> $20,000 in 1975 was worth around $60,000 in 1995 and around $70,000 today (click my name for the inflation calculator I used). Given that Xanatos' dad describes himself as a "poor fisherman," I'd be surprised if Xanatos was was able to afford a college education in 1975 - on scholarship perhaps, but probably not at any big school. He might have been able to pay for an education later, but I figure that Xanatos is a rags to riches to many riches story and probably doesn't hold an MBA (which you would expect these days from a CEO).

Have we heard from Greg on this issue (i.e. Xanatos' schooling)? A quick "find word" search of the AG FAQ, Archives and JEB's encyclopedia didn't reveal anything.
Alex Garg - [alex_garg@yahoo.com]
VA, USA
Friday, May 7, 2004 04:24:43 PM
IP: 151.200.36.227

According to Vows, David Xanatos got the coin in 1975 (20 years before he got married.). It was worth about $20,000 back then. So how much would the $20,000 be worth now? Really, it depends. Xanatos was ~20 years old when he got the coin. No way he would have finished college before getting that coin.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 7, 2004 02:50:57 PM
IP: 67.14.195.43

Are we even sure David Xanatos went to college, I mean the moment he got that coin, he sold it and starting making investments.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Friday, May 7, 2004 01:39:11 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Where did dear David go to college? Anyone know- thanks in advance
cairo
Friday, May 7, 2004 01:15:56 PM
IP: 66.142.159.219

Paul> Would you mind sending me that program as well? I may have a use for it.
Vash - [vashkoda at glaringdream.org]
Thursday, May 6, 2004 01:06:28 PM
IP: 129.98.125.57

Siren, I got your e-mail and I have replied to it. Check your e-mail. I hope you understand the instructions I put in my reply to you; I tried to make them as easily as possible to understand.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Thursday, May 6, 2004 12:26:25 AM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Emailing right now

Patrick>Thanks, I will deffinetly keep that in mind.
Siren
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 10:20:05 PM
IP: 65.33.112.117

Siren > The Gathering has a "Gargoyles" music video contest this year that you might wish to enter. :)

93 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!

Patrick
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 08:49:00 PM
IP: 68.21.245.247

please e-mail, = please e-mail me,
Paul Cousins - [paul_cousins@bellsouth.net]
GA, USA
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 07:37:41 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Siren, first you have some nice music videos from a editing stand point. But please e-mail, I use some free video codexs and programs that you might like to try to improve the quality of your videos and save you a LOT of bandwidth in up-loading.
Paul Cousins - [paul_cousins@bellsouth.net]
GA, USA
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 07:37:12 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

I added a clones music video to my site last night. Click my name to check it out
Siren
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 06:47:44 PM
IP: 65.33.112.117

Hi all! I haven't been through in ages largely because I've been buried with work for my M.A. in Communications. But right now, I could use your help. My class project is a survey about animation, available online, and if any of you could participate it would be very helpful!

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=15772477531

This fits what our instructor wants for the assignment, but I will admit in advance it's a little limiting.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Shan - [shanemuir@aol.com]
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 04:12:52 PM
IP: 66.77.89.128

RAC - I think that you might be reading too much into what was simply a throwaway comment by Greg Weisman.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 07:07:49 AM
IP: 4.244.12.165

Just getting a pic
Siren
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 12:42:09 AM
IP: 65.33.112.117

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Kanthara
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 12:35:16 AM
IP: 69.70.111.182

I use Screenblast to edit the videos. I got it at Best Buy for $100. HT Video to DVD to transfer my VHS tapes to my hard drive. You also need a TV card in your computer to connect your VCR.
When it comes to DVD, I use DVD Ripper, which is sold at Walmart for about $7. It converts any DVD to easy to edit VCD form (mpg)
My tapes on a scale of 1-10 are from 7-10.

Also, keep watching the message board. Within the next week, I plan to reupload all the videos to a smaller Quicktime format. So keep an eye out. I am sorry it takes so long, but I am working to fix that.
Siren
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 09:58:33 PM
IP: 65.33.112.117

Siren> What programs do you use to make your videos? What is the quality of your source episodes? I would love to see them, but as I am STILL using dial-up, I don't have a couple hours to download them. However, your obvious excitement about them has inspired me to continue work on my own videos, not to mention, getting me to post in here once again.

My dvds> I've done nothing new on them for weeks. I still have one left to do, but am waiting for more special feature material. I still see many Gargoyle dvds on eBay and just marvel at how much they go for. This has not made me want to sell mine, however.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 08:52:25 PM
IP: 66.220.75.128

Rac, that is so devious a question as to say that it deserves to be posted in the 'Ask Greg' section.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 08:18:32 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Vash are you saying that Owen might have wanted to serve Xanatos some humble pie for his own good.
Paul Cousins
GA, USA
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 08:15:54 PM
IP: 68.220.1.71

Finally done with my semester, can have some sort of summer break now...

Question that has been bugging me and I have to ask it (refers back to where Xanatos may or may not own that TV station WRYN?). If Jon Canmore was reporting from that same station (as a fake reporter during Hunter's Moon), I wonder how much of it Xanatos orchestrated (or maybe the Illuminati would make more sense, think I'll go with that)? I'm assuming the Canmores aren't rich enough to finance their own airship, so the Illuminati could step in anonymously with equipment and point in the general direction of Demona and the other gargoyles. See how the situation will go and plan accordingly. The hunters revealed the gargoyles but are down to one member, Illuminati grabs Jon and have him make the Quarrymen(a means to gauge public opinion I'm assuming, lots of sign-ups means more quarrymen members). Then the Illuminati tell Xanatos to get the gargoyles, be their "savior" in a sense. Would complicate things for the gargoyles because their safety could be compromised if they try to interfere with either Xanatos's or (more importantly) the Illuminati's plans. So the Illuminati still has control over all the pieces in a way, so if public opinion shifts more to in favor of the gargoyles or Quarrymen, the Illuminati can potentially make the most of either situation.

Of course, I'm making a lot of assumptions here that might be off or completely wrong. But what was that phrase," Keep your enemies close but your friends closer?" Jon and the gargoyles have their respective leashes on them from their "friends" (Illuminati and Xanatos respectively).

Rac
Troy, NY, USA
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 08:15:39 PM
IP: 24.194.43.219

DPH> I don't think Xanatos expected Elisa to be quite so determined in her investigation as to trespass. But really, the one at fault is Owen for not being more careful in escorting her out. Seeing as how Puck may have some notions about how things turn out in the future (such as the hints he dropped in "Future Tense"), I wonder if he allowed Elisa to slip through security on purpose.

Todd> Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Out of curiosity, how many here are registered but may not be going? And for those of you not going, what's the main reason why? Is it the distance? The hassle of getting citizenship documents? Lack of interest? Expense?
Vash
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 06:03:23 PM
IP: 129.98.125.57

VASH - It's me, but I'm probably (I don't know for certain as yet) going to be there only in spirit.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 07:02:08 AM
IP: 4.244.12.7

Ok, I have a deep question. Way back in Awakenings, how far did Xanatos's plans go? Did he anticipate a cop showing up to visit the top of the building to investigate? At what point, did David Xanatos's plans go off-course?

I just started wondering what the outcome would have been if Elisa Maza hadn't surived that day against the Xanatos goon squad. Or what would have happenned if Xanatos had arranged for a corrupt cop to be the one doing the investigation?
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 02:10:07 AM
IP: 67.14.195.43

Interesting. I see that Becca is registered for the con, but Christine isn't? O.o

Todd, are you the "Todd" registered? (you know you're a legend in the fandom when they don't even need to include your last name) =P Unless the "Todd" is actually Greg. Hm....
Vash
Monday, May 3, 2004 11:43:58 PM
IP: 129.98.125.57

Thank you guys for answering my question.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, May 3, 2004 09:02:32 PM
IP: 67.14.195.33

Update on my website:
Two new videos today! One from Gargoyles and another from The Last Unicorn!
Click my name to check it out!

Also, many thanks for the compliments and support. I've been up to 3-4AM every night working on these, trying to pull out at least 2-4 every couple of days.
Siren
Monday, May 3, 2004 08:41:11 PM
IP: 65.33.112.117

Tress McNeille does a lot of work on "The Simpsons," too.

Are YOU registered for The Gathering 2004 yet?

There are just 95 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!


Patrick
Monday, May 3, 2004 08:25:01 PM
IP: 68.21.245.247

Tress McNeille is one of the god-queens of voice work. She's worked on approximately eighty gajillion shows; the closest of which to my heart is "Futurama," where, among other parts, she played that evil tyrant Mom.
DrFaust
Monday, May 3, 2004 08:22:06 PM
IP: 128.230.169.172

MATT - The name "Gorlois" first appears (to the best of my knowledge) in Geoffrey of Monmouth's "History of the Kings of Britain"; whether Geoffrey got it from somewhere else or just made it up, I'm afraid that I honestly don't know.

DPH - Tress was the voice actor who played Margot Yale in "The Goliath Chronicles" (since Marina Sirtis, who normally did Margot's voice, was unavailable at the time). She's also done other voices in animation - the only one that I can think of off-hand is Dot (the female member of the Warner trio) in "Animaniacs".
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 3, 2004 06:28:28 PM
IP: 4.244.18.28

Pardon my stupidity, but who/what is Tress MacNeille?
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, May 3, 2004 05:42:53 PM
IP: 67.14.195.22

Gorlois> Todd (or anyone knowedgeable in the subject), the Gargoyles Universe aside, do we know where the name Gorlois comes from? do we know what it means?
matt
Monday, May 3, 2004 09:13:05 AM
IP: 207.230.48.17

squeaky number 10 :D
zess
Monday, May 3, 2004 04:25:43 AM
IP: 63.150.32.146

9th in the name of Tyr!
Funkadelic Gnome
Monday, May 3, 2004 03:03:34 AM
IP: 65.92.44.171

eighth for me, mwah!
Lynati
Monday, May 3, 2004 02:07:00 AM
IP: 65.66.159.103

Lucky Seven! :)
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Monday, May 3, 2004 01:48:32 AM
IP: 69.9.28.196

#6 baby! :D
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Monday, May 3, 2004 01:32:55 AM
IP: 207.65.59.153

<considering that Atlantis sunk long before Gorlois was born, I take it that the man was named after the species, rather than the other way around. Though for the word to have survived that long, other gargs must have continued to use it.>

Not necessarily. Perhaps remnants of Atlantis survived in Europe or elsewhere or else their culture survived.

<Interesting, though I wonder if Greg was really conscious of that relation at the time. Still, is anything known about Gorlois' parents? Why would they name their son after gargoyles? >

They were pro-gargoyle perhaps?
Galvatron
Monday, May 3, 2004 12:44:28 AM
IP: 144.92.184.31

Grabs the 4th spot !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Babs
Monday, May 3, 2004 12:42:46 AM
IP: 68.80.222.40

#3, huzzah!
Christine
Monday, May 3, 2004 12:30:57 AM
IP: 208.187.15.251

Top 10, #2
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, May 3, 2004 12:09:18 AM
IP: 67.14.195.35

Jim R.> Aha! I hoped you were still lurking! Yes, please get your videos out soon!

Todd> Interesting, though I wonder if Greg was really conscious of that relation at the time. Still, is anything known about Gorlois' parents? Why would they name their son after gargoyles?
Vash
Monday, May 3, 2004 12:03:00 AM
IP: 129.98.125.57