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Vaevictis Asmadi writes...

Question about the gargoyle clans

You have said the Wyvern Clan was about 80, before it split, when the last rookery was laid. Is that 80 adults, or 80 total members, including children?

The reason I ask is this: that last rookery was 36 eggs, which means there were 72 gargoyles and garg-beasts of egg-laying age. If 72 of the 80 clan members were of egg-laying age, then ALL the children and older gargoyles in the entire clan (like Hudson and the Trio) only added up to 8 at that time. This seems very strange to me. Did something happen to them?

I know that you don't like numbers questions, but this seems important.

Greg responds...

80 total members including children, but not including eggs. Having said that, it's really just a rough estimate that I will not be held to later. You're assuming that none of the 72 are dead. They ALL led a violent life in a dangerous time.

Response recorded on May 17, 2007

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dph_of_rules writes...

A few weeks ago, we had a discussion in the s8 cr about the size of gargoyle clans and what would/might constitute a full gargoyle clan.

1)Do you have a formal definition of what a full gargoyle clan is (in terms of size and/or egg laying capacity)?
1a)If so, would you share that definition with us?

Greg responds...

I have no fixed definition, as location and resources define the appropriate size of any clan. So the "definition" would differ from place to place.

I think I've said in the past, that in Wyvern in the tenth century, a normal clan ranges from about 40-80 individuals (not including eggs).

Response recorded on May 01, 2007

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Adam writes...

Hi Greg. It's great to see Gargoyles back. Anyway, I have a question about when the Wyvern Clan split between 988 and 994. What I would like to know is why didn't the departing Gargoyles take any of the eggs with them? The new clan would have missed out on an entire generation of the clan. Or did they do something like take more of Bronx's generation(978) with them? I guess that would make sense. Thanks.

Greg responds...

The why had to do with the difficulty of establishing a new rookery. Otherwise, I think you answered your own question.

Response recorded on April 30, 2007

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Wesley Nichols writes...

What happened to the young gargoyles that were of Bronx generation? were they killed in the massacer or did they survive?

An Ask Greg Helper responds...

Greg Weisman says:

There were a lot of gargoyles you didn't see. Kids. Females. Beasts. We couldn't show them all, and frankly, I don't think they would have let us show the kids. Eight year olds getting massacred is a pretty tough thing to put into an afternoon cartoon show. To be honest, that wasn't an envelope I even thought to push.

Response recorded on April 10, 2007

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Wesley Nichols writes...

You mentioned that the Wyvern Clan was created mostly from members of the Manhatten clan, who are themselves decended from the old Wyvern Clan. Does this mean that we would meet more survivors from the clan as the series progressed?

Greg responds...

No, that's not what it means.

Response recorded on April 05, 2007

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Wesley writes...

Where the young Gargoyles (Bronx's generation) of the Wyvern clan killed by Hakon and his vikings as well? Or did they somehow escape?

Greg responds...

All that were there were killed except the guys you know about.

Response recorded on March 09, 2007

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Zoma Dragon Friend writes...

I am new to the Gargoyle World and just have one question. Who are the named members of Wyvern Clan. (I told you I was new). I have been trying to get them all straight but there are relations and mates and...yeah...You have probably answered this question a million times, but I do not want to search 1,000 questions about them.

Greg responds...

Okay, so here I am, for some reason, rewarding your laziness...

The thing to keep in mind is that with the exception of Goliath, the Wyvern Clan had no names. But using names we NOW know them by...

Goliath
Demona
Hudson
Brooklyn
Lexington
Broadway
Bronx
Coldstone/Othello
Coldsteel/Iago
Coldfire/Desdemona

There are others of course that you can spot in footage whose names we still don't know.

The Wyvern Clan generated three other clans: the Manhattan Clan, the Avalon Clan and the Labyrinth Clan.

And in the future a new Wyvern Clan will be founded.

Response recorded on December 18, 2006

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Man Mountain writes...

Hey Greg!
Was the destruction of the other clans by humans, around the time of the Wyvern massacre, organized or just a "good" idea catching on?
I still get chills (and angry at Hakon and the Captain) when I watch that scene and hear the stone crumbling...
Thanks!

Greg responds...

Just to be clear, I never wanted to give the impression that all over the world clans were being destroyed at the exact same time. But the mid to late Middle Ages were a dangerous time for gargoyles. But I'm sure some clans were destroyed centuries before the Wyvern Massacre and some clans were destroyed centuries after, and as we know some clans survived.

Response recorded on November 25, 2006

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Hardwing writes...

1)Well based on the fact that Goliath rested on the highest tower of the castle and Demona, Hudson and a gargoyle I couldn't identify below him, I assume it was tradition that the gargoyles took their sleeping places after their status in the clan, correct?

2)Had the other gargoyle resting beside Demona(not Hudson) any special status in the clan? Or for Goliath?

Greg responds...

1. Generally. We tried not to be too anal about it though.

2. I'd have to look again.

Response recorded on October 05, 2005

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matt writes...

Wyvern

1. you mentioned a LONG time ago that Castle Wyvern was built so quickly (only four years, 971-975) because there was a lot of help from the Archmage and gargoyles, and because there was existing ruins on the site to build on. who built the structure that would become those ruins?

2. where the ruins the ruins of a castle or something else?

3. before Malcolm and Hudson formed their alliance, was there a rookery already existing under the ruins?

4. did the Wyvern Clan roost at these ruins before the alliance with Malcolm?

5. do the ruins have anything to do with all the artifacts, carvings and structures in the Archmage's cave?

6. both Demona and Angela discovered carvings of humans attacking gargoyles in the Archmage's cave. what did those carvings mean? why were they there? were they meant to be recorded images, like a history or were they prophetic...?

7. when the New Wyvern Clan is founded, where will they roost? will they rebuild a structure or just live on the cliffs or...?

thanks Greg!

Greg responds...

1. I'm not answering that at this time.

2. It depends on how you define castle.

3. Yes.

4. Yes.

5. Yes.

6. I'm not answering that at this time.

7. Rebuild a structure.

Response recorded on July 08, 2005


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