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Thanks Melon. In any case, with some creative searching, I finally tracked down what appears to be the original comment from Greg that revealed the existence of the race, from 1999: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2957

"The Gargoyles, on the other hand, strike me as very symbiotic with the planet. The first sentient race Earth gave birth to. (Well, the second technically, but we're only counting the three that are still hanging in.)"

Loren - [lorencollins at gmail dot com]

Harlan - Did you receive your TYPO CONTEST prize?
Greg Weisman

Pardon for double posting, but it's worth noting, Loren, that the post you link doesn't indicate Weisman doesn't recognize the term "Lost Race." He's very specifically questioning the Zeroth name (as am I, must be before my time) and is probably opting to just not answer the question. Your quest for its origins may play better with that read in mind; nothing about the link seems to indicate he's unfamiliar with the term "Lost Race" at that point in time.
Harlan of the Ghosts

It's been a while since I've seen Vows, but wouldn't the letter be just specific enough for Xanatos to assume that he wouldn't have any fear of death prior to whenever he gets married?
Harlan of the Ghosts

So I stumbled across mention of the 'Lost Race' for the first time, but it's left me a bit confused. Because while the Wiki links to a few of Greg's answers about them, I can't seem to figure out where/how they were initially hinted at.

In this July 2000 question, the "Zeroth/Lost Race" is asked about, but Greg doesn't recognize the terms. - http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2009

Presumably the notion preexisted the question, but where? Greg later OKed the "Lost Race" label in a September 2000 post, and answered several questions about them.

But where does this aspect of the mythos originate? In some dialogue in an episode? In an earlier comment from Greg himself?

Loren - [lorencollins at gmail dot com]

Makes sense; if you have the devil's luck you might as well use it.

Some people are natural risk takers (hell, Philippe Petit tightroped across the Twin Towers). Xanatos doesn't strike me as being paranoid... and both plans did work out for him.

Keep in mind, he didn't break a sweat when being held over the edge of a skyscraper... and don't say he had a means of surviving, you don't know that.

Greg Bishansky

Xanatos really seems to like pulling the gambit where he stages an attack on a target, but in actuality wants the attack to fail for the sake of his other plans. See "Her Brother's Keeper" or the Stone of Destiny story.

But in each of those cases, the execution seems rather lacking. Jackal and Hyena were flat out told to kill Xanatos, and they came very close on more than one occasion. It seems like an absurd amount of risk, especially since the reward for the plan's success is rather small.

In the case of the Stone of Destiny, he sent a Steel Clan, an Iron Clan, Coldsteel and Coyote. That's a ton of firepower; it seems that it was only by a bare margin that they didn't manage to steal the stone outright.


Mythology Fan>

1) I'd have to rewatch the episode in question but unless they've appeared in a previous episode, they're likely just background designs created to fill up the scene rather than meant to be anyone in particular.

2) No idea but Greg had this to say on the subject...


"This the pinnacle of human emotions. Warmer than hope. Deeper than despair. It is love."

Hey did anybody see I Frankenstein it was okay, but the Gargoyles looked pretty cool right
Damien - [darqkloud at aol dot com]
I Glide Alone

I have a couple of questions I am hoping some fans can answer:
1. During part one of "The Gathering" episode of the Gargoyles series, there was a hooded figure and another male figure standing next to the two cyclopes where the Children of Oberon were paying fealty to Oberon himself. I know they were most likely Children of Oberon, but who are they exactly?
2. Who was Oberon's father?

Mythology Fan
Mythology Fan

Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"


Kinda sad, but I just realized that although I stop in regularly to see what's being talked about, I rarely post except on the countdown. I should do something about that.

Phil - [p1anderson at yahoo dot com]

Harper SEVEN Beckham.
Anthony Tini

Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."

"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

John, George, Paul, and Ringo!
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"If someone ever tells me it's a mistake to have hope...well then, I'll just tell them they're wrong. And I'll keep telling them until they believe. No matter how many times it takes." - Madoka Kaname

From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

2nd week in a row at 2nd!

Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~~C.S. Lewis