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The feathered serpent in Mesoamerican legend reminds me of dragons in other cultures' legends. That also makes me wonder what connections there might be between dragons and gargoyles. (At least two gargoyles have used "By the Dragon!" as an oath.)
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

I sometimes wonder what other myths and legends gargoyles could have inspired. We've already got conventional gargoyle sculptures of the sort you find on cathedrals, heraldic beasts (the London clan), black dogs (gargoyle beasts, according to "The Hound of Ulster"), Quetzalcoatl, and tengu (Japanese gargoyles). The Loch Ness clan or its forebears might have helped contribute to stories about merfolk (depending on their exact look) - and who knows what mythical beings the gargoyles of New Olympus, Xanadu, and Korea might invoke. (And if Greg Weisman ever gets to do more "Timedancer" stories, we could see Brooklyn encountering now-extinct gargoyle clans in other parts of the world who inspired other legends. If there were gargoyles in Scandinavia in the past, they could have been the source of stories about trolls - particularly the part about trolls turning to stone in the daytime - which must have really gotten distorted by the storytellers in a "Chinese whisper" fashion, given that when trolls turn to stone, it's supposed to be irreversible rather than part of a natural biological cycle.)
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

I too would like to see this map. But now that you mention the Mayan clan that also got me thinking. According to Greg's comments Zafiro he says that the serpentine physiology among the Mayan clan is pretty common. This probably what inspired the Feather Serpent motif found in art and architecture throughout Central and South America. So now I'm wondering if the legged gargoyles seen in the clan had ancestors that migrated from other clans or whether the legs/no legs is a common quirk among the gargoyles of the region.
Oh for more info on the Feathered Serpent motif see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_Serpent or here: http://www.atlantisquest.com/Quetzal.html

Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

Matt- I would very much like to see that map.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~~C.S. Lewis

Matthew> I concur. And even the Wyvern Gargoyles (and their descendents) were pretty amphibious at times. Check out the fishy-looking gargoyle on Avalon, for instance. My personal theory is that most of the gargoyles in the British Isles long ago were more London Clan-like and that the Scottish stock and aquatic gargoyles made their way there later via Atlantis. I've been working on a gargoyle migration map for a while. It seems to me that the Wyvern Clan is much more closely related to the Mayan Clan than the London Clan. I think Atlantis provided that link. A sort of island-bridge.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"

So going through the wiki and I was thinking about the Loch Ness clan and how they would have developed aquatic racial traits. A quick search on Wikipedia shows that Scotland has close to 32,000 freshwater bodies, it's possible that the Loch Ness clan is descended from other clans that chose to live near other bodies of water back when gargoyles were more numerous. In fact I wonder if the gargoyles of Scotland had a stronger connection to the water than other gargoyles as even the Wyvern clan kept pretty close to sea.
But that's just my theory. Thoughts?

Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

What Vinnie means is that we should talk now...
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"

And away we go on with the show!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Tenth! The countdown MUST be rendered complete! This is an incredibly important thing!
Ross

Shari.
Comet
Double, double, toil and trouble. Fire burn and cauldron bubble.

Wow. I'll claim eighth.

I'm wondering what the record is for slowest countdown, and thinking we may be in the running to beat it this week.

Phil - [p1anderson at yahoo dot com]

Seventh!
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

...well, that's annoying when your index finger chooses just the EXACT WORST MOMENT to have an excess twitch.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
"It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Perfect timing to come in sixth once again.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
"It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Perfect timing to come in sixth once again.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
"It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

The Five Doctors!
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~~C.S. Lewis

May the 4th be with you.
Anthony Tini

Meryl Stryfe, Milly Thompson, and Vash the Stampede!
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Two by two, hands of blue.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

One(1st)First!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."