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May... yeah. I bet you'll answer this by May. Just over three months. =)
Okay, you mentioned that you planned to use every legend etc etc etc. I have to know...
1) Would you have done a story about how evil was released into the world?
2) If you did, which form would you have taken? Adam and Eve? Pandora's box?
Hah. March.
Evil was released? Hmmmm...
Hi, again, Greg!
How long do you suppose it would be (in years or whatever) before the ridiculous humans put away their predjudices and, worldwide, it was cosidered perfectly normal for gagoyles, New Olympians, humans, and Oberon's Children to be seen wandering down a street or in a dance club? I'm not saying all humans, or every member of the other races for that matter, will ever completely accept the members of the others (Margot, for example. That woman...!), but do you forsee basic equality for all the races in the future?
BTW, I have to put this in... I was reading through the archives and I came accross Celano's post. S/he's right! That gargoyle mother in The Mirror really did have a beard! I've always wondered about that too...
thanks for your time, Greg! You're my hero!
I don't remember any beard, and I've seen the episode about 50 times.
As to your real question, I like to think that as a species humans take two steps forward and 1.9 steps back. Meaning that eventually, we get where we should be going. But I'm not going to attempt to set a date on the end of universal prejudice. I'm not in the Utopia business.
Greg- I saw in your rambles that you wanted to see what fans thought of the clock tower being blown up, the "enter macbeth" ep, and the world tour--
How does the word awesome sound?
Seriously though, I must say that Gargoyles' strength is that the characters grow and change. It dared to be real because the "good guys" don't always win. This show had me on the edge of my seat many many times. Thanks for creating a show that dared to actually tell a story; that dared to go someplace; and where the world's problems were not solved within thirty minutes. This show was not afraid of change, and that's what made it awesome.
Man, this is gratifying.
You are all too good to me.
Now someone tell me what archive I put this in.
One of the great things about Gargoyles was that little things that seemed insignificant at the time could have major effects somewhere down the line. Someone asked a similar question about the mercenary from Double Jeopardy, and it made me wonder about another minor character. Anyway, would we have seen the weaponsmith/inventor who created Mr. Carter again?
And the idea about simply ignoring TGC and using the first season to bring the show from Hunter's Moon to the present sounds plausible, although subjects like the Stone of Destiny returning to Scotland and Y2K hype would show the true timeframe. (Assuming you chose to pursue either of those stories)
Re: Mr. Acme. Maybe, occasionally. The problem is the name. Warner Bros thinks they own the Acme name. (It's been debated.) To use it briefly once made a good joke. A diminimous reference. To make him an on-going character though... I'd never be able to use his name.
Re: The Stone of Destiny. I'd still do that one. An informed audience would know about the date. But most wouldn't. So it works for everyone.
Re: Y2K. That one doesn't play. Everyone would know that I was cheating on the time. Plus, Y2K was a dud. As I figured. (Being Jewish, perhaps, gave me a different perspective on the calendar.) I had no Y2K story planned. So it's no great loss.
One thing that I'm going to confess here, and it's that I'm still feeling somewhat taken aback at the discovery that the mythological gods in the Gargoyles Universe are subject to Oberon, a "mere" faerie king (though don't tell him that I called him that :) In traditional legend, Oberon wasn't a divinity, so seeing him have authority over gods like Odin feels a little strange to me still. It's like seeing an earl giving orders to a king. I know that in the Gargoyles Universe, Oberon does outrank the gods of mythology and that they were really "just" powerful faerie-folk, but it does feel a little odd to me all the same.
That is... an absolutely SHOCKING confession.
Or not.
Look, I knew it was going to be controversial (relatively speaking). Frank Paur wasn't particularly comfortable with the idea, but I'm a fast talker.
The main motivation was that I wanted the Garg Universe to have a certain cohesion. I wanted it to be rich and expansive, but not completely arbitrary. So after a bit of tease and mystery, we reveal a feudal system.
And Oberon's lack of shall we say, press, didn't bother me. He was the big man behind the scenes. And although he's not exactly Mr. Maturity, I don't think that bothered him.
And of course, he did have at least one spectacular press agent. Guy named Will.
Has Macbeth or any other of your immortal/unaging characters (fays and the like) ever assumed a name we would recognize from the history books (as opposed to mythology)? And if so (though I don't expect you to reveal what that famous disguise would be :-), would you tell us which ones of your characters has indeed done so?
Yes. And good guess. And no, not now.
Una and Griff, as we know, look very much like a unicorn and a griffon. In your opinion, are there actual unicorns and griffons out there in the Gargoyles Universe, or were the legends about them founded on sightings of London gargoyles of that sort?
Probably the latter, unless some fae were goofin' on folk.
Mr. Weisman,
In your mind do you think dragons are evil or good? In the course of the show there are several references to these fantasy creatures. In the Gargoyles world are there any good dragons or only evil ones. Because in the episode "Pendragon" the stone dragon seems to be bad. It was only a stone dragon. However, is there a race of dragons like gargoyle or are they only a species of fantasty creatures?
The stone dragon in "Pendragon" was a magical construct. Or at any rate it was brought to a semblance of life by magic. It wasn't truly alive. And I don't consider it a true dragon. Nor do I consider it evil. It was "programmed" to perform a specific function. To test for the one true king.
I'm not going to confirm or deny the existance of real dragons in the gargoyles universe, but if you've watched the series, you'll know thematically that I would never define an entire species, gargoyle, fae, human or dragons (if there are dragons) as either good or evil. To quote Goliath, "There is good and evil in all of us, human and gargoyle alike."
Nothing is one thing. Let alone an entire species.
How close is the world of "Gargoyles" to the real world? When I ask this I mean in the "Gargoyles" universe is Clinton the President. Is Giuliani (sp?) the mayor of NYC? Or would you create your own characters to fill the rolls of important well-known officials?
I don't know for sure. I avoided that kind of thing so I wouldn't have to decide. I'd tend to lean toward keeping it more real. But if I had a really great story...
When you included vampires in the series, would we have seen
any of the literary vampire figures, like the famous Count
Dracula or (the not-so-famous) Lord Ruthven?
Dracula certainly in one form or another. I'm not familiar with Ruthven. But as I've said ad nauseum, given enough time and episodes, we'd have covered everything.
Dear Greg, some questions on the First First Race:
1) What was the nature of this ancient, pre-Gargoyle race? Organic like humanity? also organic but symbiotic with nature like the Gargates? MAgical like the fae?
2) Could you hint on why this race died out? Just roughly..war, disease, etc?
3) Does the arrival of the Gargoyles or Fae have anything to do with the passing of this race?
4) Is this race actually dead or gone away?
1. I'm not sure how to answer this without giving too much away. Which probably gives too much away right there.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Dead.
In "Hunter's Moon" one of the requirement for Demona's spell to work was that it should be cast in "holy ground". For that reason she uses an abandoned church... The question I'm going to ask is a bit vague, but hopefully you'll understand it: what does this place's "holiness" as pertaining to the spell, derive from? Is it something all places of worship would have, even "pagan" ones? Does it derive from people considering it 'holy' or is an objective "gift" (so to speak) from the deity in question and thus unrelated to belief?
It's almost certainly something which you couldn't answer within the series (I think), but perhaps you could answer it here... :-)
I want to posit that some ground just is holy. Or perhaps more clinically, these locations act as a nexus of mystic energy. The fact that churches temples, etc. are often built on such spots is no coincidence. There may be a guiding force. A sense that this is a place of prayer. Of connection to God, or the Great Spirit or the Earth or WHATEVER.
Anyway, that's how I see the Gargoyles' Universe working.
Here's yet another question.
Did you ever plan to bring the Headless Horseman into "Gargoyles"? Sleep Hollow isn't too far from Manhattan.
Is the Headless Horseman in the public domain?
If so, we would have gotten to it eventually.
Did you really mean it about having a story planned for "Gargoyles" involving Santa Claus? I must confess that old St. Nick seems easier to fit into a comedy-adventure series like "Duck Tales" than something on a more serious epic level like "Gargoyles" - and I assume that you weren't going to have that story be the stereotypical "bad guys hijack Santa's sleigh and our heroes have to rescue Santa and save Christmas" one - at least, I HOPE that that wasn't the sort of story you'd planned :)
Yes, I meant it. But have a little faith. It would have fit our tone and our general handling of mythic figures from Macbeth to Anansi to Oberon. Admittedly, if the series tone could run the gammut from "Future Tense" to "Vendettas", it would have been closer to the latter than the former, I suppose. But it still, first and foremost, would have been something that worked within our universe.
Greg, what were the Fomorians in the Gargoyles Universe?
What?
In the gargoyles bible for the first season you had made mention of the existence of a 'very wise man' who first made an alliance with gargoyles building his castle of a gargoyle rookery and who ushered in the golden age of gargoyle-human relations...
Is this still how you picture it happening? The existence of a specific 'very wise man' was intriguing to me - is he just a generic figure, or someone whose name we would recognize? (I have my own idea on the subject ofcourse but I refrain from suggesting it in case it's considered a story-idea)
I was being generic in the bible on purpose to simplify things. Honestly, I don't think I ever really thought there was just one person who did that. The world was too big a place and there wasn't any internet back then to facilitate communication. So that "wise man" was a place holder in my mind for a number of intelligent humans and gargoyles who made multiple alliances over multiple centuries in multiple places.
One such alliance of "wise men" was the alliance formed between Hudson and Malcolm, which was brokered by Robbie.
Another alliance was that formed between Xanatos and Demona, brokered by Owen, with a little help from Brooklyn, Mary and Finella behind the scenes.
Mr. Weisman,
Were there any plans to deal with Beowulf in the Gargoyles series? I looked through the archives and didn't see any mention of it.
I know I've answered this, but maybe it was since you asked the question. Anyway, yes. Eventually.
Mr Weisman,
1) Did biblical events such as Noah's flood occur in the Gargoyles'Universe?
2) If the Noah's flood did occur, did the Gargoyle race survive on the Ark, or in some other way?
I haven't given any specific thought to Noah. (Which is surprising, since my Torah portion at my Bar Mitzvah was on the guy, and those early influences usually stick with me.) There was definitely some flood, some basis for the legend in the Garg Universe, but I haven't worked out the details.
But now it's swimming around in my head, so ask me again in a few months.
Did you ever consider "cat-goyles"? If so, would they might have lived in South America or Africa, since they are the two continents with the most "big" cats?
Again, what does this mean? I guess you could say Leo is a lionesque gargoyle. Does that count?
What's a cat-goyle?
"Little Minds", sorry, you're right of course. So, who were/are the little-minded, and what was the foolish consistency which plagued them?
Not telling now.
Forgive me if this has been answered before, but does the Magus have a name or is he just generally known by his title?
Both.
Following up the question I just asked, but not sure if this was related or not... Since you had intended to fit in every legend ever, how did you intend to fit in Beowulf?
I had some Beowulf ideas. But they're pretty raw and unformed.
By the way, has anyone read the novel GRENDEL by John Gardner. (It's the Beowulf story from the monster's POV.) Always liked it.
Had you planned to show us about any of Tom's journeys through the centuries (when he travelled every hundred years to check up on the clan)?
Can you tell us anything about the quests the Avalon must have sent him to (assuming you have thought about the issue ofcourse)?
Yes and no. I had a few notions (which I won't go into now). On the one hand, given unlimited story telling resources, I would have told those tails. But in a real series, I don't know where they'd fit.
Resubmitting this one as required...
Is there any particular backstory as to why Elisa drives her particular make & model of of car (either within the context of the series itself, or a reason one of the writing staff wanted that particular car used?).
No. We just wanted her to have a cool car.
Of course, knowing me, I might someday come up with a "story behind the car" story. But I don't have one yet.
Hey Greg,
You've said in the past you intended to fit in every legend and such ever made, right?
1. How would you have fit the men in black in? They are a real legend, but now Warner Brothers has a big ol' licensed series about them... Did you have any plans on this?
No immediate plans for MIB. And what I said was that given enough time and enough episodes I'd fit in every legend, but that didn't mean I had a working plan to do that yet.
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