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Hi, I especially enjoyed the series like many others here. I particularly like how the characters were portrayed and developed. Shari seems to be very interesting and I hope we get to know more about who she is later on. Also her relationship to Thailog, whom I never found to be evil. I mean, sure Thailog is a bit maniacal and not so nice, but he's never done anything heartless. I mean even though his body is fully developped, he's still kinda like immature right? Like a child still sorta...he's like someone who's never really been taught why doing wrong was wrong. Why else would he not have killed Goliath or Elisa when he had the chance. Sure he said that "suffering" is just a bonus...but is that kinda like a mask to hide something he always yearned for? Is Thailog truly evil? Will he ever learn to cherish anything?
I'm not going to address what might happen to Thailog in the future -- other than to say keep reading, please. But I think he's done some heartless stuff -- a lot of heartless stuff -- already.
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
March 28th...
2007
[withheld]
Who first originated the initial idea of Bonkers and (roughly)when?
Geez... it was my development team... as to the when, I don't remember off the top of my head. And I'm at my Sony Spider-Man office, not my own office where I have all my old files. So I can't check right now.
Hey Greg,
This is something I've been wondering about for a while now..ever since Gargoyles #7 came out, and since we found out that #10 is called "The Gate." You've begun to incorporate plot points that were supposed to be from Pendragon and, with #10, Timedancer, into the main book.
1) Are there any other titles you can reveal, GargWiki has Gargoyles #11 as "Tyrant" and Bad Guys #4 as "Louse." Have you figured the titles out anywhere past those?
2) Is incorporating these elements into the main book a contingency plan, in case the spin-offs don't end up getting their own series, so that elements from them can still be used? Or is this to provide a jumping off point for the spin-offs to pick up from once they're being made?
3) Is there any word on how successful Bad Guys has been?
I know it's only been one issue for Bad Guys and ridiculously too soon to ask, but I'm also curious as to your thoughts about how likely Pendragon and Timedancer are at this point.
Last question:
Are the release dates set for Gargoyles #8 and Bad Guys #2? I know you're busy, and by the time you get to respond to this, they might both be out, if that turns out to be the case, you can disregard the question. ;)
Thanks a lot!
1. Yes.
2. The latter.
3. I don't have any definitive info.
I think Gargoyles #8 should be out on Wednesday, March 26th. I think. Not sure about Bad Guys #2, although BOTH it and Bad Guys #3 are complete, complete.
As good a time as any for an update...
Bad Guys #4 is fully roughed out and being pencilled and inked by Karine.
Gargoyles #9 is also fully roughed and being pencilled by David.
Gargoyles #10 is fully scripted.
I'm scripting Red Tornado #2 right now, and then I'll jump onto Bad Guys #5.
You know, in between this Spider-Man thing.
You are so the man. I was afraid the new Spider-Man series might just be a rehashing of old stories for the youngins but I'm having a ball with it. How does it feel to write a script and know it's gold? :D I had some solid laughs, and that line about "...Harry losing his dad..." was chilling. The voice acting is quality (some familiar ones in there too, I don't know all the names like some of the hardcores here I do remember them ;)). I've only seen the first episode yet and I love how it wasn't just linear with one villain, one small fight where Spider-Man gets beat down, and one big fight Spider-Man eventually wins. Multiple arcs, both high school and super hero life, and multiple villains building in the same episode is where it is at. I didn't actually realize you were so involved in this project but I am so glad you are. The powers that be chose wisely! No pun intended. Every since it went off the air I've urned for Gargoyles to make reappearance on the small screen or, be I so bold as to say it, the big screen! I guess in some way your legacy will live on vicariously through this series, not that Spider-Man should fit in a Gargoyle's mold, but you get my drift. Keep it real pisano.
Well, hopefully you're picking up the Gargoyles comic books... which is where Gargoyles truly does LIVE AGAIN!
But thanks for the kind words on both shows.
dear greg weiman i love watching garoyles as a kid i thought it was a bad ass show and watched the first 2 episodes of The Spectacular Spider-Man and say this show is going to be pure bad ass i love the vulture robert englund was ment to play him and thank go you made a marvel comics cartoon sticking to the comics unlike prevoius series and now my question will Shocker in the episode "Market Forces" have charatcer development and will be one of the mebers of this shows version of the sinster six
I like to think EVERY character in The Spectacular Spider-Man will have character development. But watch the show and let me know what you think. As to the S6, I'm afraid I'm not likely to give away any spoilers here.
I'm going to work on a review for The Spectacular Spider-Man episodes 1 and 2 later today. I'll probably review them in the same style I review the comics, but I have been working on some paragraph styled reviews on tv.com. So I thought I'd present some for some episodes of Gargoyles and the Kim Possible episode Big Bother and see what you think of how I do:
1. This is for the Gargoyles Series as a whole:
"A show worth watching, and owning. The current comics from Slave Labor Graphics is equally worth buying.
I probably couldn't do the series justice in my review, but I'll certainly try.
Like many, I enjoy the show for it's appealing characters and interesting stories. The show demonstrates originality in coming up with rarely used ideas or putting a spin on established cliches.
An example would be the episode "Future Tense". The episode at surface appears to be a copout as the events were a dream. When infact it serves to foreshadow future episode/comic story elements.
The show is also well balanced. While I do have a share of favorite adult cartoons, Gargoyles manages to be adult/mature without relying on adult content nonstop. It's serious without being depressing.
Here's hoping the comic will continue for a long time."
2. Possessions (This review of course predated #6 being released):
"Didn't expect to see an immediate follow up on Puck teaching Alexander the use of his powers. It was also fun to see the return of Coldstone and crew. Coldstone's appearance in the Himalayas will be explained in #6 of the Gargoyles comic series.
What helped to make the soul transfer interesting was the choice to keep Broadway, Angela and Brooklyn's voice the same. That decision payed off even more since Brooklyn's behavior was puzzling.
As far as the forshadowing goes, I'm embarassed to admit I didn't see the pairing between Broadway and Angela coming. I thought she would end up with Brooklyn."
3. The Journey:
The episode could have done without the opening monologue as it can't hold a candle to the "Previously On Gargoyles" segment.
It's easy to see the differences between this and the rest of the season. One being that this is the only episode to deal with Xanatos' amoral nature (that he can't be trusted completely). This episode also brought up more of the Gargoyles continuity than the remaining episodes.
Seeing Vinnie make peace with Goliath was a nice little twist. Still where the episode fails, the comic improves.
4. Kim Possible - Big Bother:
"I saw it on Disney Channel.com, and made sure to record it during it's premiere. Recently my stepsister had a baby last summer, she's really adorable. So, I can really understand the Stoppable's feelings towards Hana. Right up there with Alexander Xanatos, as one of the best animated babies introduced.
Favorite moments include Ron's attempt at taking care of a sack of flour and sugar, Ron breaking the news to Yori concerning him and Kim and of course the end of the episode."
So, are my paragraph reviews ok, good or needs more work?
Hey, as long as your being honest, who am I to review your reviews?
Hi Greg! I don't have a question, just a few thoughts on your Spider-Man.
I really enjoyed it, although I'm not the target demographic (24-year-old woman). I'm also not a comic book fan (except for your Gargoyle comics), so the only Spider-Man stuff I'm familiar with is the movies--and even then, I've only seen the first two and wasn't even that impressed by them. Actually, my three favorite aspects of your cartoon are also (in my opinion) major differences it has from the films.
1) It's pretty darn funny.
In the first episode, I loved the minor storyline about his shoes, but my favorite part was [wording approximate] "Haven't you heard the one about great power coming with great responsibility?" Hilarious. And it's nice that the humor is more often radiating from Peter than simply being at his expense (see also #3).
2) What I think of as a Weisman trademark: the shade-of-gray villain.
Vulture and Electro each had an element of the typical-comic-villain "I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!" thing going on, but I'd have to say that on the whole, each of them was more sympathetic than not. Vulture's demands from Osbourne? Extremely reasonable. (Speaking of, I also want to endorse your decision to keep the line about not letting Harry lose his dad the way Peter had lost his uncle. Because, again, Vulture had a valid point when he wondered why Spider-Man was siding against him [besides the whole kidnapping/assault thing, of course], from his and the viewers' point of view.)
3. I really like Peter's positive attitude.
It's a problem endemic to storytelling of all media that to keep up dramatic tension or the conflict that the writer has set up, the hero has to be, in a way, obstinate and narrow-minded. The audience is supposed to be convinced there's a problem because the hero is convinced there's a problem. Or maybe it's just a personal preference, and I happen to like plucky determination better than brooding pessimism.
Anyway, I liked it a lot and am eager to find out what happens next!
Great! The episodes keep coming (I know because my blood pressure keeps rising), so stay tuned!
Hey Weis guy! :D
I saw the new Spider-Man series, it was truly excellent. Good to see something remotely intelligent on Saturday morning for a change.
Interesting look for Peter (mole?) and interesting how he's experiencing mom-troubles instead of the more familiar social-appointment-troubles.. what with him being younger.
Of course I caught the gargoyles reference, very nice.
One thing I found kinda funny is how Pete explicitly mentions the almighty hyphen (love that hyphen) but then just a few scenes later a newspaper lacks it. C'est la vie.
Keep up the excellent work, can't wait for Gargs 8!
"mom-troubles"?
And don't get me started on the hyphen!
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The Spectacular Spider-Man
Ep: "MARKET FORCES"
Main and End Title Credits ___________________________________________________________________________
Main Titles
Executive Producers
STAN LEE
CRAIG KYLE
ERIC S. ROLLMAN
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Developed For Television By
VICTOR COOK & GREG WEISMAN
Created by
STAN LEE & STEVE DITKO
Opening Credits
Card #1
Supervising Producer and Story Editor
GREG WEISMAN
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Producer and Supervising Director
VICTOR COOK
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Producer
DIANE A CREA
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Written By
ANDREW ROBINSON
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Directed By
DAN FAUSETT
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Closing Credits
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Starring
JOSH KEATON as PETER PARKER / SPIDER-MAN
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Also Starring
JEFF BENNETT as MONTANA / SHOCKER
CLANCY BROWN as ALEX O'HIRN
LACEY CHABERT as GWEN STACY
GREY DELISLE as BETTY BRANT
JOHN DIMAGGIO as FLINT MARKO, HAMMERHEAD
BEN DISKIN as EDDIE BROCK
ANDREW KISHINO as NED LEE
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Also Starring
PHIL LAMARR as RAND ROBERTSON, ROBBIE ROBERTSON
JOSHUA LEBAR as FLASH THOMPSON
DARAN NORRIS as J. JONAH JAMESON
ALAN RACHINS as NORMAN OSBORN
KEVIN MICHAEL RICHARDSON as BIG MAN, COACH SMITH
DEBORAH STRANG as MAY PARKER
JAMES ARNOLD TAYLOR as HARRY OSBORN
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Card #9
Voice Casting and Dialogue Director
JAMIE THOMASON
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Card #10
Music by
LOLITA RITMANIS
KRISTOPHER CARTER
MICHAEL McCUISTION
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Card #11
Associate Producer
ERIC VESBIT
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Card #12
Staff Writer
KEVIN HOPPS
Apprentice Writer
RANDY JANDT
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Storyboard Artists
JENNIFER COYLE
TIM ELDRED
LARRY HOUSTON
JUAN MEZA LEON
NATE CLESOWICH
Storyboard Revisionists
PAUL HARMON
JEFFREY S. JOHNSON
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Lead Character Designer
SEAN "CHEEKS" GALLOWAY
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Character Designers
PHILLIP BOURASSA
THOMAS PERKINS
GREG GULER
JOSE ZELAYA
Assistant Character Designers
JOSH BISHOP
WALTER GATUS
JEFFREY S. JOHNSON
JOEY MASON
KAY PARK
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Background Supervisor
VINCENT TOYAMA
Background Designers
KENNY McGILL
ART MORALES
BOB KLINE
TED BLACKMAN
Prop Designers
TAE SOO KIM
ANDY CHIANG
ART LEE
Card #17
Background Painters
JOEY MASON
MIKE INMAN
WEI ZHAO
FRED WARTER
LIN HUA ZHENG
Color Stylists
PAMELA LONG
DAVID SVEND KARROL
CRAIG CUQRO
NANCY ULENE
Card #18
Supervising Timing Director
GORDON KENT
Timing Directors
BRIAN HOGAN
RANDY LUDENSKY
SWINTON SCOTT
TONY CRAIG
Animation Checker
SANDI HATHCOCK
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Card #19
Storyboard Production Manager BRIAN G. SMITH
Production Art Supervisor JOHN "BUENOS" DIAZ
Production Coordinator SHERRIAN FELIX
Episodic Casting Supervisor MATTHEW C. OTOSKI
Production Assistant BEN MALONEY
Post Production Assistant JENNIFER L. ANDERSON
Production Accountant NATHAN HARAMOTO
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Associate Producer for Marvel
JOSHUA FINE
Production Coordinator for Marvel
ADAM TOOTLA
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Recorded at
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Dialogue Recording Engineer
ERIC LEWIS, C.A.S.
Dialogue Editor
TERRY REIFF
Track Reading
SOUND BYTE, INC.
Animatic Technician
MIKE MANGAN
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Card #22
STUDIO POST PRODUCTION SUPERVISOR
ELVIDA ABELLA
Editors
RALPH A. EUSEBIO
BRUCE A. KING
Assistant Editors
DONNELL EBARRETE
CHUCK SMITH
Digital Effects Supervisor
ULYSSES ARGETTA
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Music Engineers MARK MATTSON
MAKO SUJISHI
Post Production Sound Services ADVANTAGE Sound Services
Sound Designer ROBERT POOLE II
Dialogue Editor ROBBI SMITH
Foley Artist CRAIG NG
Foley Mixer MARY ERSTAD
Digital Audio Transfer ROBERT PRATT
Re-Recording Mixers MELISSA ELLIS
FIL BROWN
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Main Title Theme by
THE TENDER BOX
Main Title Directed by
VICTOR COOK
Main Title Storyboard by
PHIL WEINSTEIN
Main Title Color by
JOEY MASON
Main Title Animation Production by
HANHO HEUNG-UP CO. LTD
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Animation Production by
DONGWOO ANIMATION CO., LTD
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