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We already know that Angela is Goliath's daughter and that Broadway is Hudson's son. Are there any other closely related members of the Manhattan Clan?
If your talking biological relationships, no.
What was the original "comical" series of Gargoyles supposed to be like, and what were the original versions or counterparts to the main characters we know now? Thank you once again for your time.
Hmmmm. The show had much the same set-up: tenth century gargoyles put to sleep for a thousand years by a magic spell. Their castle was moved to the tallest skyscraper in Manhattan and they woke up and tried to adjust to 20th century life. The gargoyles were all diminutive, kinda like Gummi Bears with a modern edge. The whole development went through a number of changes over time, and I won't attempt to list every permutation but here's the basics on the characters. The name that heads each paragraph is the name the character ended up with in the show that you guys ultimately saw on television.
Demona - Dakota was the leader of the gargoyles, and she was, in a word, boring. Too straight to be the leader of a comedy ensemble. So we changed her name to Demona and turned her into a traitor working with the enemy....
Xanatos - Xavier was a human descendent of the wizard who had cursed the gargoyles a millenium ago. He was rich, powerful and petulant. Very Captain Hook.
Owen Burnett - Mr. Owen was Xavier's assistant. In the first episode, he got hit by a magic spell that permanently tranformed him into an anthropomorphic aardvark.
Brooklyn - Amp became the leader after we changed Dakota into Demona. He was a little guy who looked more like Lexington than Brooklyn, but he had Brooklyn's out-there adventurous personality.
Broadway - Cocoa was a heavy-set female gargoyle with artistic pretensions and a great love of food. This always made us uncomfortable, which is why she eventually became a he.
Lexington - Lassie looked a little more like Brooklyn than Lex, but he was the closest thing we had to Lex. He was an idiot savant, fascinated with technology. He could spend hours working on a computer. He could also spend hours watching a traffic light change colors.
Hudson - Ralph was the couch potato gargoyle. A bit older than the others.
Content to stay at home and watch tv.
Elisa - Morgan Reed was a human school teacher who befriended the gargoyles.
She was also a firefighter for awhile. And a museum curator. And an archeologist. And Xavier's former partner. She had a daughter for awhile too. For awhile we played it like she was Princess Katharine's descendent.
We had the Gargoyles move onto the roof of the apartment building where she lived and cause a lot of trouble for her.
There was no parallel character to GOLIATH. After the comedy development was rejected, Tad Stones (Producer of Darkwing Duck and Aladdin: the Animated Series, among others) suggested adding a dramatic male lead. We came up with Goliath and put the whole show through the prism of who Goliath was. That was the turning point, obviously.
I still maintain that the original comedy development would have made a great comedy-adventure series. Something to be proud of. That's not to say that I don't greatly prefer how things turned out, but it's apples and oranges.
In "Sentinel" there was a conversation between Elisa and Goliath, where Elisa mentions something about the Holy Grail and Goliath says something like "we haven't found it yet." Was this foreshadowing something that will turn up later? As you said, you were going to include every legend.
Yes. Exactly. It would have been something for King Arthur and Sir Griff to follow up on after their quest for Merlin -- IF we had ever done the PENDRAGON spin-off. And because we "promised" it in "Sentinel", Elisa and Goliath would have had at least some minor involvement in the quest.
It was said Goliath was going to be in the movie, will Elisa be in it too? And why did you feel you needed to give Elisa a partner in the series
As I said, the script for the movie hasn't been turned in yet. All I know is that Goliath is the lead.
Cops have partners. It didn't seem realistic for Elisa to be an exception.
Why make her life that easy? We all have connections which enrich and complicate our lives. Elisa has parents, siblings, a boss, a cat, gargoyles, supervillains... and a partner.
In my Gargoyles "Meet the Characters" book, it mentions Elias Maza being of Sioux indian descent, and yet she seems to be Navajo in the series. Did the book just have misguided sources or what? :)
She seems to be Hopi or Zuni to me in the series, though I don't pretend to be an expert. I can't even remember if "maza" is the Sioux or Navajo word for "iron". As you can see, we weren't tremendously consistent on Elisa's paternal ethnicity. That's mostly my fault. I should have done a better job on research. Part of the problem was that different people gave us different advice as the series progressed. But that only compounded inconsistencies that we had already built into the stories. I'll try to do better in the future.
Do you believe that had Gargoyles continued on TDA, and Elisa and Goliath gotten more of the spotlight in their romance, would it be taken well with the S&P people. I heard that TGC had more censor problems tham Gargoyles but that is probably a rumor. I was somewhat surprised at how some people I know and parents that thought it was somewhat disgusting.
O.K. Once again, GARGOYLES had no censors. We had one Disney Standards & Practices executive. We also had our own sensibilities as guides. Goliath Chronicles had ABC's Broadcast S&P staff to worry about also. I don't know if they had problems with the Goliath/Elisa relationship. On the one script I wrote for Chronicles, they didn't seem to have any trouble with any of the romance stuff I wrote. The one thing they did object to was Elisa punching Banquo in the face, off-camera. That surprised me, because we had done that sort of thing all the time during the first two seasons. Again, you'd have to ask Eric Lewald or Scott Thomas if the Chronicles had substantial S&P problems at ABC.
I was just wondering, if Anglea and Broadway have a son or daughter what will he or she look like?
Angela and Broadway will ultimately have three biological children: Artus, Gwenyvere and Samson. None of these characters have been designed yet, and I don't want to paint/write myself into a corner, but in my head, Artus bares a strong physical resemblance to Hudson & Broadway; Gwenyvere looks quite a bit like Angela & Demona; Samson looks very much like Goliath. But they won't be carbon copies, and each child should inherit at least a little bit from each parent.
What is the female gargoyle's name that is in the coldstone robot?
Coldfire is her name now. She had no name in the tenth century, since naming is a human, not a gargoyle, trait. However, those of us who worked on the GARGOYLES series are all humans, so we felt the need to name her in scripts and in the credits. So we called her Desdemona. But that name was simply a convenient designation for us. She would not recognize it as her own. Neither would anyone operating within the universe of the series.
How did Puck work for Xanotos as Owen when he was in The Mirror? How did Owen get turned into stone in The City of Stone? Why would a human\gargoyle spell work on him?
When Puck transforms into Owen, he transforms into a human being, with all a human's weaknesses and vulnerabilities. Now Owen can transform back into Puck, but he can't perform magic as Owen. And Demona caught Owen off- guard with a spell that affected his all-too-human form. I suppose Owen could have transformed back into Puck in between the two nights of the curse, but that would mean he couldn't help Xanatos at all. Remember their deal: one wish from the Puck or a lifetime of service from Owen. Xanatos chose Owen.
As for "The Mirror", Xanatos went without Owen for a few hours. Who knows whether he even noticed.
From where (as in, what experience other than comics) did Cary Bates come; how did he come to write for the series? I heard from the man himself that David Wise might have become one of your writers. How far did he get into the selection process, and did you have any other writers in mind for
the series at any time?
1) Cary's done some movie and television work. (Columbus & Superboy immediately spring to mind.) He also happens to be one of my best friends and my former writing partner. When I expanded the story editing staff beyond Michael Reaves, he was one of the first people I thought of.
2) I've never met David Wise. I don't ever remember considering him for the show, not even when I was an executive with no real intention of producing the show myself. Maybe David was considered for Goliath Chronicles. I didn't participate in that decision at all. (This is not to imply that I have something against David, it's just that I was going with people I knew.
Michael Reaves had shown me his excellent work on Batman. Brynne Chandler Reaves did great stuff on the first season of GARGOYLES and had earned her promotion. I had known Cary from as far back as my DC Comics days. And I had worked with Gary Sperling at Disney on a number of shows. I didn't know David, and wasn't too familiar with his work, so he was never in the running.)
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