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[SPOILER] While Bulwer-Lytton certainly gave the phrase its "opening sentence" associations, I still think (a discovery that I only made a few days ago, when researching the phrase for GargWiki) that Washington Irving could be considered its originator - and that it feels all the more appropriate to bring up his use of it, given that it appeared in his account of the origins of New York - one of the central locations of "Gargoyles". Irving's story also contained one of the first - if not *the* first - depictions of an alien invasion of Earth, here depicting the inhabitants of the moon invading and conquering the Earth (done as a satirical look at the European treatment of the Native Americans); one of the highlights of that scene is the moon's inhabitants being especially indignant over the fact that the Earthlings believe the moon to be made out of green cheese. (Irving describes it as if the "moon made out of green cheese" concept was already around when he wrote it; now I'd like to find out if it indeed predated him or not, and if it did predate him, who came up with it.) [/SPOILER]

Todd Jensen

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Todd > [SPOILER] I think you're correct that the really egregious melodramatic writing came later in Bulwer-Lytton's paragraph. That first sentence just became a sort of cultural shorthand for critiquing that style. In essence, when you hear that sentence (which isn't awful in and of itself), you know what's coming.

And let's face it, the idea of using a "dark and stormy" setting to indicate that trouble is brewing is a very overused trope.
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Craig

Sixth!
Matt
"Okay... This is getting old." - Brooklyn, 1995

So the bots have gone back to spamming posts - and on an unneeded epic level.

I wonder what the gargoyles would make of "Daylight Saving Time"; obviously it won't affect their sleep patterns.

PHOENICIAN - [SPOILER] Thanks for the additional information on "It was a dark and stormy night". I hadn't known that the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest was now ended. I'll have to find out more about it.

I've wondered what makes "It was a dark and stormy night" a particular example of bad writing; it seems like a good setting-establishing sentence to me. The "dark" part would seem redundant for "night", of course, but I assume it's to indicate that the storm clouds are blocking the light of the moon and stars. Maybe such a setting seems too melodramatic - although reading Bulwer-Lytton's opening that used that sentence, I noticed that the more detailed description of the night that followed definitely matched "purple prose".

Of course, the gargoyles would have some familiarity with such nights; the two that I recall in the series were the one attending their initial awakening in New York (though the storm seems to have cleared up just after they awakened) and the one on the night of "The Gathering". [/SPOILER]

Todd Jensen

Gyaaah, bot barf. Fifth, I think.

# There oughta be a moonlight saving time ... #

morrand - [morrand276 at gmail dot com]

4th!

Phoenician> [SPOILER] I was thinking of the Bulwer-Lytton Contest the other day. I couldn't remember the name of it just the premise of purposefully writing a terrible sentence. I feel like I should try to enter one of those but it's pretty difficult to write something that amusingly bad but also engaging on purpose. [/SPOILER]

Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Third!
Craig

Another busy week, but I managed to read the Gargoyles Meets Darkwing Duck #3 digitally Tuesday night and picked up my hard copies yesterday. Curiously, my shop also had the mystery bag version of #1 in my pull-box, but I wasn't complainig. I just figured I missed out on that one last month.

Not much more to add, but a few thoughts:

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It's been fun revisiting the relevant episodes of Darkwing Duck on Disney+ -- I figure that's what the artists have been referencing for the various DW characters.

I espcially appreciated Todd's entry detailing the "Dark and Stormy Night" history on the Mystic Gothic Novel page at the GargWiki, which led me to discover the now-retired Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest:

https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/winners

I don't want to spoil the fun, but I will say that 2024's entry compelled me to read every other winning entry, and much of the other entries.

Others beat me to the Latin translation in this issue, but it was amusing all the same.

Lastly, this crossover makes the perfect home for Goliath's narration to actually be spoken by the big galoot within a story (and much to Darkwing's frustration, lol).
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Yeah, not much to add. Until next issue!

Phoenician
Gus: "I always forget you're there." Hooty: "I forget I'm here toooooo."

First.

MORRAND - Thanks for your review. [SPOILER] I'm not surprised that Demona comes across as more of a straightforward villain here; it matches the tone of a crossover with a comedy-adventure series like "Darkwing Duck".

I didn't realize what Demona's spells were allusions to (I should have spent some time translating the Latin) until I read their entries in GargWiki, but I was amused by both of them. [/SPOILER]

Todd Jensen