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Well dang, thank goodness for that credit scene because I sure needed that.

[SPOILER] Y'know, I know Danny is widely considered one of those characters nobody likes, but geez. Part of me wonders if they used him for this just so there'd be one likable and sympathetic version of him... or if someone on the crew had a grudge. Well, hopefully M'comm didn't totally erase him, and he can get a prosthetic, um, body? Cyborg and Halo can probably fix something up, I hope.

And all the pieces are coming together, at last. Nearly everyone is in the same place and on the same page! We just need the Team kids to get the memo and come through, now. I'm also glad that everyone seems fully aware Conner has gotten messed around hard, and are only concerned for him - I know that's a very low bar, but there's definitely plenty of storylines like this where a brainwashed character's friends don't seem to realize their friend isn't in their right mind and take the 'betrayal' personally. I also liked how Conner keeps remembering things, and pausing at the others as soon as they reminded him of anything, and how it's Zod yanking hard on his sense of stability that gets him to obey. That bit where he said he'd assume the risk - that's just a noble sounding way of saying 'don't think or use your judgement, just trust me.'

And augh, poor Conner. We've had a question in the queue for months about how the chest wounds might be a reference to a storyline where Conner had to stay in the zone or die - well, I don't know if that was on the writers' minds for this plot, but between that, the mention that wounds don't heal in the zone, and Phantom Girl's burn, I should've seen that last bit coming - and unfortunately the red sun means Conner is just as vulnerable to third degree burns and open gaping wounds as anyone else. (isn't that a sentence.)

The Zone fight was good - but gosh, I'd love to see a true-color version of it, everything being blue made it kinda hard to follow on first watch. I did like Kaldur taking command again, though, it's been way too long.

And finally... oh, Lor. Well, he's shown up with a Zod crest and he does seem to have his mother's face, so I suspect Zod will at least be open to the idea that this is his kid long enough for an explanation. Still, I wonder if just-out-of-the-Zone Zod will disappoint Lor somehow, if he's expecting his father. Zod's excellent at manipulation, though, and clearly has his father figure routine down pat, so probably not, but something there could throw a spanner in the works.

What else... so, OK, I do feel somewhat more sure the last shot of the season will be Kara, or will be Jason rolling into town. Either/or. And I'm kinda wondering if poor Danny and Motherbox's agony will alert Halo and Cyborg - and hey, then they'd have a healer on hand to keep Conner alive. Maybe not, though, there's already so many people here. It was nice to see Orion again, helping out, and I liked he checked in with Danny before they started the synchronizing plan. He's probably quite familiar with how nasty Apokoliptan tech can get.

And... yeah I think that's everything! Oh, and Teekl 2 was cute. I guess Klarion is hanging out with his dear old buddy this week. On the Warworld. This can only end well. [/SPOILER]

Karrin Blue

[SPOILER] Ugh, what do you bet Desaad operated without anaesthesia? (if that's possible without causing death from shock) [/SPOILER]
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I guess Desaad really liked Lovecraft's Whisperer In Darkness.
Friendly CIA Spook
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Well things are finally starting to converge. Some quick thoughts on episode 24 "Zenith and Abyss"

[SPOILER] You know, I've never been a fan of Danny Chase. He was always so obnoxious in the comics. But Jesus Christ no one deserves that.

Man, this episode was bringing once false hope after another with Phantom Girl and M'gann's efforts and the Team's excursion into the Zone. I almost thought they had something there with the memory flashbacks, but dang. That conditioning is just too strong right now.

This may be the most unique fight we've had in the series with Zod's followers having mastered the power of intangibility while in the Zone. Shame Nightwing had to blow that last chance with the kryptonite, a radioactive fragment isn't going to do you any good if there isn't a tangible body comprised of cells to affect. I've got a nasty feeling that shard is going to come back in the worst way.

So it looks like our finale will almost certainly take place on this new planet. This will be interesting with the Cult of Zod lacking any powers but backed up by Lor and M'comm (and someone beat the **** out of him already). But the Team ready to turn the tides with actual working weapons this time.

Can't wait to see how this turns out. [/SPOILER]

Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Karrin> My own interpretation for Fire and Ice is that they're both straight, but they'd make an exception for each other.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Todd Jensen>

1. And additionally Luz basically gets her Princess (Amity), so two foreshadows.

2. I mean Hunter still gets a bit of romance something we weren't sure was going to happen. Heck Lilith was confirmed in the charity stream and I think by Dana to be Acesexual.

And something to consider given some speculation that might be true about Hunter:
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- Being cloned from Philip's brother who might be Flapjack's original and have the name Caleb (The name FJ suggested for Hunter in Any Sport in a Storm). Part of that is guess due to Bird based Palismen being a Clawthorne thing.

- His attraction to Willow might be reflect Caleb's preferences in having a strong partner. A Clawthorne at that meaning that Hunter is in fact tied to Eda.

- Also Hunter being the closest to looking like Caleb, and falling for a witch. Something hinted to be betrayal in Belos' eyes. Otherwise he probably ships Hunter with only trauma, pain and death. [/SPOILER]

Antiyonder

Sorry for the double post, but one other thought on "The Owl House". In the first episode, Luz was shown trying out for "Romeo and Juliet" (and getting too enthusiastic about performing Juliet's death-scene). Given the hostility of Amity's mother towards Luz, I'm now wondering if that was intended as foreshadowing.
Todd Jensen

We also got major changes (if far less romantic in tone) from Lilith and Hunter. [SPOILER] Hunter's name, incidentally, combined with the Titan-hunting organization that turned out to be another of the Collector's schemes, stand out to me all the more after that rewatch of "Gargoyles" I did for its 25th anniversary, when I noted how often human hostility towards gargoyles was described in terms of hunting - and which gave new perspective on the build-up to "Hunter's Moon". Now, I don't think that the "Owl House" production team had that in mind - the imagery of hunters as menacing figures has been around for a long time - but it still feels fitting, especially since both the Titan-huntsmen and Emperor Belos, whom Hunter used to serve (and who calls himself a "witch hunter"), definitely strike me as having the kind of mentality that, if they'd been in a different Disney animated universe, would have definitely encouraged them to hunt down gargoyles with the same gusto as the Canmores did. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen

>Karrin Blue, re:Ice and Fire

That would be nice!

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Use this page here: https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/ask.php

That's the only way to get answers directly from Greg Weisman. If you post questions here in the Comment Room, he'll never see them.

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>Juan Pablo Gonzealaz, Prince Ritji, Ladarious Cathey

Again, this isn't the place to ask questions (or request official artwork). Greg Weisman doesn't frequent this Comment Room. None of us is him. He doesn't read our comments most of the time or post here. This is just a chat space between fans. Use the Ask a Question page for things like that. It's under the Ask Greg heading at the top of the site.

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As I recall, my thoughts went from 'aw, Amity's so easily worked up, there's probably going to be some good fanfiction or fanart about her and Luz later' to 'huh, that scene with the oath being undone was nice, she's warming up a lot faster than I thought' to 'wow, wait, that scene with her diary, are they actually going to imply Amity's into Luz?' And then, well, they did. I thought they'd be cute for a while (strong reactions make for an engaging onscreen relationship, and they make really good foils to each other) but I hadn't thought Disney would actually let the crew do that sort of thing, I thought it'd have to stay ambiguous.

And same on Mist and Livewire - especially with [SPOILER] those looks they were giving each other being right after Halo talked about romance issues? [/SPOILER] I hope we get a story about them meeting someday - maybe if we get more comics, those are a good place to flesh out the supporting cast.

(Also, it's the longest of shots, but I'm still kinda hoping that since we know Fire and Ice are both in the League, they're actually together-together this time. It feels like some continuity doing that is only a matter of time, y'know?)

Karrin Blue

Are Amistad Ervin and Lian Harper friends?
I saw them both in Young Justice outsiders final episode, Nevermore and heard it the YJ Audioplay, the Prize.

Juan Pablo Gonzealaz

Masterdramon> I mean, they never exactly hid how close the two of them are, Livewire's been shown to be pretty protective of Mist since their first episode.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Also especially cause of her comment about not dating Earth males, Penumbra and Della Duck from DuckTales 2017 is another non-canon pairing I go for.

And it's kind of fitting for someone in the Duck family to engage in such relation with someone originally off-planet.

Huey, Dewey and Louie would likely be excited to have a Step Mom from the Moon:-D.

Antiyonder

On that note, I'd be remiss not to mention that I've rewatched the [SPOILER] Violet/Harper [/SPOILER] scenes in "Ego and Superego" something like 20 times now. My fanfics continue to be validated, as it should be!!! :D

Also was happy to see that my low-key top background OTP for this show [SPOILER] Livewire/Mist got a further bit of hinting in the group therapy scene. They may not have had any dialogue this ep, but I challenge anyone to offer a heterosexual explanation for The Looks that Leslie and Andie were sharing during Gar's share.

Mind, I thought it was already pretty obvious in Season 3. She bought her cotton candy, maaaan

https://64.media.tumblr.com/06711d46e012823ec42db597903d1104/8f3704b18dfff604-bc/s540x810/96f6c55fd536a397c9db5b7c52bde8d5f1374e11.png [/SPOILER]

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Inside of every demon is a rainbow." - Charlie Magne

While unlikely to follow in Luz and Amity's path, and I wasn't even expecting to ship anyone on The Ghost and Molly McGee, Molly McGee/Libby Stein-Torres fan.

Like Dianakko and Lumity, just pure adorableness.

Antiyonder

Prince Ritji> If the series continues long enough, I have no doubt that we'd see Anissa and Jennifer take on the mantles of Thunder and Lightning. But just asking Greg like that get a "No Spoilers."

Juan Pablo Gonzealaz> Well since you said yourself that he was born in '96, if the Gargoyles verse was still going, he'd be 26. Now for what he would be doing is anybody's guess. Trying to predict around the Xanatos family is a lesson in futility.

Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Todd: Maybe not "crikey" specifically, but I was shipping it from literally their first scene together.

Probably mostly the result of being a big Little Witch Academia fan, as Akko and Diana have an almost identical dynamic.

Plus I'm just silly pathetic yuri-trash in general. With a particularly strong record of calling these things accurately. ;)

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Inside of every demon is a rainbow." - Charlie Magne

In the Gargoyles universe, how old is Alex Xanatos and what is he doing now.
When I watched Gargoyles Season 2, he was a baby and In Future Tense,he is a adult.
He was born in 1996.

Juan Pablo Gonzealaz

Todd Jensen> Or Amity starting the pet name of Sweet Potato (Batata).

It also just makes it amusing when you think about them relating things to their kids. First meeting includes Mom nearly getting Mama dissected.

Or Mama realizing her feelings for Mom when Grandma Blight almost got her killed.

Not to mention Uncle Hooty making their hook up possible with a little kidnapping and forced tunnel of love ride.

Antiyonder

Do Black lightning's daughters have the metagene like his father
Prince Ritji - [jg0930047 at otc dot edu]
Owonubi

ANTIYONDER - It certainly strikes me as an example of how much character development takes place in "The Owl House". I remember that in Amity's first episode, she seemed more of a nemesis-figure to Luz (and Willow). How many viewers would have even imagined, when they saw that one, the "crikey" moment?
Todd Jensen

So yeah I enjoyed seeing the Lumity kiss in the recent episode of The Owl House. Also besides Raine and Eda, I do indeed ship Hunter and Willow, even before there was any plausibility for it (i.e. When Season 2 was just starting it's break).

Their interactions played out as I'd expect (Especially Hunter actually proud of how strong Willow is) plus some nice bits I didn't think about:

- Just their first meeting. Willow pulling him to the ground with a serious expression on her face, then smiling as she asks him if he will join their Flyer Derby Team. Also if you look at the picture in Any Sport in a Storm, it shows that her Dads were on the same team as kids. That said, perfect first meeting for them.

- Him calling her Captain.

So with that plus ASiaS having the side plot with Luz and Amity, a very shipper friendly episode. Especially the recent one with a bit of Raine and Eda.

Also this video edit someone made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVV7unyL5E

Has the relevant scenes from ASiaS set to Suis Moi from The Little Prince (which is referenced in the episode through Darius).

Perfect song really for them.

As an aside I do also ship Gus and Mattholomule. The latter, BTW, is confirmed to be related to [SPOILER] The Coven Guard Steve [/SPOILER].

Antiyonder

I think it would be cool if you made some artwork for the Space Spawn, Queen Mab, and possibly the Gargoyle/Human couple that existed before Goliath and Elisa (the one that existed around 3000 B.C)
Ladarious Cathey - [sinraipaleodemon1 at gmail dot com]

And Greg would probably give a "NO SPOILERS" answer anyway.
Todd Jensen

*Ladarious
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Ladorious, you want the Ask a Question page. This is the Comment Room, for fans to chat. Greg won't answer questions you pose here.
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When you are you going to give more information about the Lost Race?
Ladarious Cathey - [sinraipaleodemon1 at gmail dot com]

I think they meant visitors from the future and not a time skip all the way there. It's possible.
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I doubt that the time skip will jump that far ahead. While Greg has openly stated that wants to tell this story for as long as possible, I don't think he's in such a hurry that we'll see them go from toddlers to teens that quickly.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Do you think in the next season of Young Justice, they will show the children of the Justice League like Jonny Kent, Damian, Lian and the Tornado Twins as teenagers or young adults from a different future like Bart Allen and the Legion of Superheroes?
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Prince Ritji - [jrgontor at gmail dot com]
gontor

[SPOILER] My Mom used to read about him to me when I was very young; she's Dutch and had the comics from when she lived in Holland. (Dad's Scottish; I'm the first on either side to be born in the US, and I've lived in both other countries, too.) [/SPOILER]
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I'm a little confused as to why they recast Monterey Jack in the Chip n' Dale movie. Jim Cummings is in the movie as Fat Cat, and I'm not Australian but I think Jim's Australian accent is... good? And even if it isn't, it works for the character as a goofy cartoon mouse. I dunno if Eric Bana was stunt casting or what, but it was weird.

I assume it was for the name recognition and that he's authentically Australian.

Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!

[SPOILER] Thanks for sharing that, B. Asterix isn't that well-known in the U.S. (I became familiar with him due to spending much of my childhood in England), and it's pleasant to find someone else who's read him. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen

[SPOILER] So am I! In fact, one of my cats is named Asterix. He already had the name when we got him from the SPCA, but it was a point in his favor. Like our other cat Charizard. [/SPOILER]
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Got a look at one of the YouTube clips from the Rescue Rangers movie [SPOILER] of the altered toons getting freed - and one looked like a crocodile version of Obelix. I got a smile out of that, being a long-time Asterix fan. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen

New week, new beginnings...

I was actually pleasantly surprised by the Rescue Rangers. I think it helps that it was at heart a detective story/buddy comedy, which feels very true to the spirit of the original show. Like swap out all the failed actor/animation jokes for talking mice jokes and this could easily be the plot of a 'real' RR movie.

Also, I appreciate that Disney reached out to other studios like WB, DreamWorks and Hasbro to flesh out the cameos instead of just using this movie as an excuse to flaunt all the carp they own.

Algae
'Nuff said

No, retard, I really was talking about the Christian nut. They all like kids. It's interesting you immediately went to the other better known pedo lmao

It's also very funny the lengths you go to justify grown ass men(-babies) watching cartoons. Go touch some grass. Or some pussy. Or cock. Above age of consent! Just touch something else besides a keyboard and your own dick.

Anonymous

You know, we can get plenty of spam, non sequiturs appearing from out of nowhere advertising the most bizarre stuff.

But at least they take the time to choose an avatar, maybe select a font color. Anonymous trolls who show up to throw around language are just so lazy.

Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.