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Ah, a new episode ramble at last! Thanks, Greg!
My own thoughts on "Kingdom".
I certainly do remember this episode airing out of order; the first time was in February 1996, just before "The Hound of Ulster". (I also missed the beginning of the episode first time around, so it was a while before I got to see the whole thing).
I'm glad that Broadway and Hudson provided a home for Cagney at the tower; as a cat-lover myself, I certainly wouldn't have wanted to see Elisa returning from the Avalon World Tour only to discover that her pet had starved to death in her absence. Hudson tending to Cagney (and admitting that he wasn't quite a substitute for Bronx) was a lovely moment.
I was, for my own part, a bit disappointed that Xanatos only got a sub-plot role here, although still a fun one. (Yes, the cannons could have been better designed, but he himself was in form as ever: "Don't you just hate it when people drop by unannounced?" as well as the one that you cited "Do I really need an excuse to have a good time in my own home?")
Fang made a very entertaining "bad guy" here; I got a real kick out of the scene where Claw hands him the key card. Although, for me, the funniest moment comes when Claw, after doing that pantomime sequence for an angry Fang, hides inside his own wings. I always LOL at that part.
I liked the handling of Brooklyn being unwilling to become a leader, for fear that it means admitting that Goliath won't be returning. One of my favorite parts in that plotline comes when Brooklyn finally tells Hudson to accompany them to the Labyrinth, admitting that it's an order, and Hudson has a little smile upon his face as he sees that Brooklyn's finally taken on his responsibility.
To return to Xanatos: when I think it over, I don't think that it's all that surprising that he didn't actually take advantage of the information about Goliath being missing. (Although, the first time that I saw "Kingdom", I was indeed expecting him to do some real searching for Goliath and Elisa, in line of his words to Brooklyn - particularly the "I wasn't aware that I needed permission" line - and was a bit disappointed that when he and his associates do encounter them during the Avalon World Tour, it's unintentionally). Because, when you stop to think over it, what would he really have done? He had no practical reason to go after Hudson and the trio (it was clear by now that they wouldn't serve him as henchmen), and certainly wasn't going to be hunting them simply for revenge, since that wasn't his style. Likewise, I can't see him attempting to take over the whole city in Goliath's absence, regardless of what "Future Tense" might claim; after all, why conquer it when he'd already been able to achieve the bulk of his goals under the current system (as I recall you pointed out in the Gargoyles Season One Bible)? In the end, Xanatos's doing nothing to take advantage of it made a lot more sense, because taking advantage of it didn't match his character and goals. (One thing that definitely makes him a unique "main adversary" in animation).
All true, but...
I knew, just KNEW, that there was a story in there something. I've since figured it out. A little late, I realize, but there's a good flashback to be had someday in some medium...
Why is Sevarius so freaken Crazy?
He's not Crazy. He's just nuts.
It's funny how you mention Xanatos finding out that Goliath is missing, then not hatching any kind of a plot as a result, because you honestly couldn't think of something. I strained my brain to try and figure out how X might possibly use such knowledge to his advantage, and came up dry, so when nothing happened, I kind of expected it. In fact, felt validated by it. In my head, knowing that Goliath was missing let him put two and two together in episodes like "Cloud Fathers."
X's new security system DID suck, but it's cool to know why it was installed (as a result of "Double Jeopardy"). Those cannons were out of control. I think the sequence would have worked, thanks to the atmosphere and X's cool lines, if the cannons just would have aimed AWAY from the castle. The redundancy didn't bother me. Sure, Mac's place has these spiffy blaster cannons too, but HE'S not Xanatos.
Where did those Cyberbiotics rifles come from? Why did Cyberbiotics abandon them? Okay, so they pulled out fast, but jeez, talk about corporate neglect, leaving an arsenal of deadly weaponry in a subway. So much for Renard's integrity. (I'm trying to bait you here.)
Oh, the climax with Maggie and the key card? One of my favorites. The build-up is perfect and Carl Johnson composes it well.
Carl is great, but much credit should go to Marc Perlman, our music editor. We couldn't afford to have Carl score every episode. So Marc had to edit Carl's music to fit any situation. Though they were rarely in the same room together, the two made an amazing team.
it seems to me there is a difference from season 3 Seeing Isn"t Bleaving maby more shadowing do you notice any difference?
What's with all these "Seeing isn't Believing" questions recently? Is this one person posting under many names?
Anyway, I've seen this (and all non-Journey Chronicles episodes) exactly once, way back in '96/'97.
I remember there was one that was sort of Aladdinesque in its animation, but I'm not even sure which ep that was. And I don't know why.
I have just finished reading the original book 'Magic' by William Goldman, which was made into the movie starring Anthony Hopkins. I have not seen the movie in many years, but I recall most of it quite well except for the final freeze-framed scene after what happens to Corky. What was the final scene of that movie?
I loved that movie, but I haven't seen it in years either, and I have no specific memory of the final scene. Sorry.
This is in line with Balrog's questions. Anyway did you have plans to add the Silent Knight, the Black Knight, the Shining Knight or the Demon Etrigan into Gargoyles?
Those characters are owned by Marvel & DC Comics. So obviously, the answer is NO.
was the castle the gargoyles protected based on a real castle? if so what is its name? if not where can i find a good picture of it?
I'm not exactly sure where you can find a picture, but Wyvern was VERY LOOSELY based on Tintagel in Cornwall.
last night I whached the episode "seeing isn't believing". I think it's the second to last episode in The Goliath Chronicals. Anyway, the animation style was really really weird, I wondering if you happened to know what that was about.
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ok this is going to be a pain, but I'm making a Gargoyle page page , and need mucho info about the chars and the land that they came from and so on and so on, I've been hunting for a few days and it seems that every few web sites I go on, thier info is different from what others are, and I would like to have the correct info for my page, right now I'm working on info for the main N.Y. clan, you know thier age, when they were born, height, wingspan, stuff that like. and i would also like to find out about info with other Clans around the world, what ever you can help me with would mean a great deal and also help that much you can get back to me on here or e-mail me at Barb018@hotmail.com for any info anyone have for me, just plz make sure that it's 100 % correct I don't want to spend hours making this site just to find out that its wrong, plus its my first site I ever made and im learning HTML and Flash and some other werid things to make it, if anyone has any pics or midis, mps, whatever thank you very much. This is the best page that I can find about Gargoyles, you has tons of info and it helps alot, so i know you won't let me down, from one Gargoyle fan to another .
Uh, I guess I'm a gargoyle fan.
But, I'm sorry, you're question is too large and vague, and since you posted it nearly two years ago, I'm not going to expend a ton of effort to write up everything I can think of for a page you probably completed ages ago.
And I don't know wingspans, anyhow.
Still most of what you're looking for is available in the ASK GREG archives or FAQ.
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