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This is a sort of addendum to my "Lighthouse in the Sea of Time" response, since there were a couple of things in it that I'd meant to say but forgot about at the time.
One little touch that I always liked in this one was the brief scenelets with Bronx - first, when Lexington is yanking a magazine out from underneath him with great difficulty, and then when Hudson calls him, and Bronx jumps up, bounds over to Hudson's armchair, and lies down beside it again.
I don't recall having any problems over misinterpreting the "sealed by my own hand" part, but it is interesting to note that the closed captioning that I saw on my taped copy put Macbeth reading the Scrolls' inscription within quotation marks, indicating that they did recognize that he was reading the writing and that it was Merlin who'd sealed the Scrolls. (I just thought that I'd cite a case where the folks in charge of the closed captioning correctly interpreted something).
I was a bit surprised by your account that the lyre's music was caused by the wind blowing through it; I'd always assumed that it was playing by itself through some sort of magic (particularly given the way that it was shimmering). Thanks for clearing up the account of the visit to Merlin's cave.
(And, regarding Merlin's inscription on the chest, one reflection that I had about it was that the Scrolls truly would be valuable only to the "seeker after knowledge" and not to the "destroyer", as Macbeth found out at the end when he actually read them).
Yep.
I liked that bit about Bronx's special rappor with Hudson too.
In Hound of Ulster was Cuchulainn lying when he said he use to have a hound similar to Bronx? According to Celtic myths he never owned a hound, but he did kill one.
Maybe the Celtic myths were incomplete.
In "Awakening Part Four", when Hudson and Bronx are watching television, Bronx is up on one of the couches in the room. Just what is the clan's policy regarding Bronx on the furniture? Is he generally allowed up on it? (Of course, then again, if Bronx wants up on the couch, who's going to tell him that he can't get on it? :)
My dog Norman has his own barca-lounger in our den. So who am I to tell Bronx where he can sit?
A little question from The Gathering eps
With Boudicca (sp?) and the Oberon thing...
Is she just very obidiant or did he place a spell on her?
She's obedient to those she trusts.
Re your bit on "Turf" and "Vendettas" happening simultaneously:
You're correct that the finished product doesn't quite fit that element, for one reason. In "Vendettas", Goliath and Hudson are on their own. In "Turf", they have Bronx off with them. Guess that must have somehow crept in in the course of making the episode.
Kinda. OR maybe, Bronx was on his own having his own adventure with Cagney. And the Trio simply assumed that Bronx was with Goliath and Hudson.
Hi Greg.
Despite the fact that I'm hopelessly behind in my planned attempt to respond to all you episode rambles, I'm gonna take some time out to ask you a few questions I've been thinking about. This set is about gargoyle-beasts.
1. Would the Manhattan clan refer to Bronx as a "gargoyle-beast", a "gargoyle", or something else entirely. In other words, do they use a different name for Bronx's species than their own?
2. We know that Bronx is at least as smart as a very intelligent dog, possibly smarter. He's at least capable of thoughts such as "That is a big dangerous monster. I should most likely attack it." ("The Hound of Ulster") and "That is a robot. I may therefore maul its face, though this may not be permissible on a human being." ("Leader of the Pack") Something along those lines, though maybe not with such flowery language. Anyways, about how smart IS Bronx, or the average gargoyle-beast? Are the beasts in fact as intelligent as regular gargoyles, but simply unable to speak? As smart as chimpanzees? Not nearly as smart as I seem to think they are?
3. The other gargoyles in the Manhattan clan seem to realize that Bronx has a fair degree of intelligence. Lexington and Brooklyn tell him to "go get help" rather than "go find Goliath" or even "go back to the castle and bark". (Okay, so he did end up running down the street and causing havoc. But he understood.) Goliath tells him to "help Angela", not "move the roccks off of Angela".
How much does the clan think Bronx understands. Just commands like these? Or does Hudson think he understands every word he says when he talks to him?
1. Generally, no. Which doesn't mean they aren't aware of the distinction. They do call him a beast on occasion.
2. They're pretty darn smart. They understand something like "FIND GOLIATH!" But they couldn't understand. "Hide in the dark for five minutes and then FIND GOLIATH!" The first part of that sentence would be gibberish to them. And they'd immediately take off in search of Goliath.
3. Simple commands only. Find. Help. Protect. Etc.
Hey Greg, just a question Bronx and the Mirror
When Puck turned Bronx into a dog, why did he look so much like a blue retriever or even an Irish Wolfhound? I had always pictured Bronx as bulldog/pit bull/and or boxer type of dog. He is so robust and bulky, more like a giant bulldog then anything else. Being pit bulls and boxers are usually tall and slender, but powerhouses all the same. Is that how Puck invisioned him or would Bronx really be like that as a real dog?
BTW, Mirror is my fav ep, I love the animation and Elisa was the most beautiful gargoyle. Her colors were just so cool.
I don't know how to say what Bronx would really be like as a real dog.
We picked a Wolfhound cuz that's the biggest dog.
Are there only canine-like garg beasts, or are there other animal types as well?
What in your mind defines Bronx as "Canine-like" besides his bark?
ENTER MACBETH
A series like "Gargoyles" is build (in my opinion) on the strength of its villians, and Gargoyles had some of the BEST villians going, especially Macbeth. Even Xanatos, in armor, didn't try to take on all the gargs at once (The Edge) much less succeed the way Macbeth does. Throw in the character's phenomanal personality and history, and you have one very engaging and dangerous guy.
As to the episode itself... I'm forced to agree it was the worst animation in season one. Did you notice in the final shot of Macbeth (in the tape Owen shows Xanatos) that he's got a mustache! Personally that bugged me more than the other probelems. At least keep the character's LOOK right! :)
My favorite part of the episode, amongst many cool moments: While Goliath battles Macbeth, Bronx frees Brooklyn and Lex by CRASHING BODILY STRAIGHT THROUGH THE ELECTRIFIED BARS! This time without the benefit of diveted current. This feat is so impressive it even shocks Brooklyn and Lex. Just look at their faces! I think their actually scared of him at this moment. In my mind, this established Bronx as being, pound for pound stronger than all the gargs, including Goliath.
My two cents... thanks for listening, er.. reading.
Bronx may be pound for pound stronger than Goliath. But his breaking through those bars had more to do with MOMENTUM, I think.
A slightly silly question, but: do gargoyle beasts ever suffer from fleas, ticks, and other parasites?
Not during the day.
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