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Greg,
I'd like to know (since the DVD just came out) if you plan on releasing a soundtrack of Carl Johnson's compelling music.
-Alex
"Gargoyles-urban myths, now urban reality."-Travis Marshall
I personally can't plan anything. It's not up to me. I'd of course love it if Disney did release it, but I'm sure that at this time they have no plans to do so.
Glad to see that we can post again . . . I got the DVD on Tuesday Premire!!!!
I was so happy!
Went over to Best Buy to buy it. Turns out, my little brother, 10 years old, today, was the won to find it. They were in a box somewhere in the 'TV Shows on DVD' aisle.
We politely asked a worker there to properly display the boxed set in all it's glory. Unfortunatley, I don't know if they ever did. :I
I read the back cover for the first time. It said it all, surprisingly. "The victems of Human betrayal" Humans? Betraying Gargoyles? To the unwise ear, that sounds ridiculous, and that those who read it must surely see how could perfect humans do evil to 'monsters.'
Hey, that's just who I am.
I saw the commentary in the Pilot episodes. (Isn't cool that "Gargoyles" has more than one pilot episode?) I loved how you (as in Greg, Frank, and Keith) mentioned every little thin we loved about the show, and the quirks that cam ealong with it. "Bronx kicks A**, or tail, as the case is!"
Loved it.
I also never truly realized the TRUE signifigance of Goliath asking to join the others in stone sleep. I never knew that he meant to commit suicide, but now that makes it all the more meaningful. It also reminds me of the Demona's anguish when she sees Goliath that way in City of Stone Part I, where she cries and kisses Goliath, not even trying to find a way to wake him.
Sad indeed.
I also loved the dog joke. Once an actor, now on the streets . . . cliche', huh?
I am glad that Carl Johnson also got the recongition he deserves. I mean, hard not to, right? Everytime the comentary began, you gave praise to the man who came up with that "BUMMMMM!! BUMMMMM!! BA BU BU BUM BUMMM BA BA BUMMM!! Epic indeed.
But it was truly a rewarding thing to see the show on DVD at last.
"I always survive" -- Demona, "Temptation" That is how this fandom is. No matter how hard we hit the ground, we always come back alive!
AND WE LIVE AGAIN!!!!!
Onward to Season II !!!!!!
We do indeed live again!
And thanks for mentioning Carl and his amazing score!
CAN YOU GIVE ME PICTURES OF BROOKLYN I THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE HIM A GIRLFRIEND WHEN IS GARGOYLES COMING BACK
Ah, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't do that to you. My question's about the theme song for the first 2 seasons. Carl Johnson's original cut of the theme had the drums followed by some subtle woodwind working of the theme, the buildup, then the hardcore horns doing the theme that we know and love. But over the opening credits, the woodwind piece is cut out, and the horn section plays twice. What happened there? Was the wood section deemed not "action-oriented" enough for the opening credits? I like it, personally, I feel it contrasts the horns well. It's also quite the shock, hearing the original cut for the first time, expecting the huge hit of the horns and instead being hit with this really cool wind solo.
I swear to God, I just don't remember. Sorry.
I notice that Carl Johnson's webpage includes the following information,
GARGOYLES: THE MOVIE
Walt Disney Pictures
Composer, Orchestrator, Conductor
It is not the t.v. series, because that is listed further down. Is this for the proposed movie? I notice that it does not include a date.
No, I'm guessing it's the video release, which combined the first five episodes and was titled: "Gargoyles: The Movie: The Heroes Awaken".
This isn't really a question at all. I just found that Carl Johnson has made the 14-minute "Gargoyles Suite" available on his web site, and it spans all the music themes heard in the episodes. There is also an original African-inspired track entitled "Panther Queen", as well as the main title themes for the Disney and ABC series. (I think that these are the same as the CDs from one of the Gatherings, but I can't be sure.)
Anyway, I thought that you'd want to know that the music is freely available now, and I'd bet that a lot of readers will be downloading it :) The address is http://www.swanderfulmusic.com/MP3/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCartoon%2FGargoyles
(If that link is mangled, you can find them by browsing Carl Johnson's pages at www.swanderfulmusic.com)
Thanks for the news!
'Kingdom' ramble:
It's funny how you mention Xanatos finding out that Goliath is missing, then not hatching any kind of a plot as a result, because you honestly couldn't think of something. I strained my brain to try and figure out how X might possibly use such knowledge to his advantage, and came up dry, so when nothing happened, I kind of expected it. In fact, felt validated by it. In my head, knowing that Goliath was missing let him put two and two together in episodes like "Cloud Fathers."
X's new security system DID suck, but it's cool to know why it was installed (as a result of "Double Jeopardy"). Those cannons were out of control. I think the sequence would have worked, thanks to the atmosphere and X's cool lines, if the cannons just would have aimed AWAY from the castle. The redundancy didn't bother me. Sure, Mac's place has these spiffy blaster cannons too, but HE'S not Xanatos.
Where did those Cyberbiotics rifles come from? Why did Cyberbiotics abandon them? Okay, so they pulled out fast, but jeez, talk about corporate neglect, leaving an arsenal of deadly weaponry in a subway. So much for Renard's integrity. (I'm trying to bait you here.)
Oh, the climax with Maggie and the key card? One of my favorites. The build-up is perfect and Carl Johnson composes it well.
Carl is great, but much credit should go to Marc Perlman, our music editor. We couldn't afford to have Carl score every episode. So Marc had to edit Carl's music to fit any situation. Though they were rarely in the same room together, the two made an amazing team.
I read your faq about the soundtrack so this is probably a worthless question, but do you know if there is anywhere to find or purchase Sheet music for Gargoyles music? I know they make music books for Disney movies and such and was hoping that perhaps there would be one for Gargoyles. Well I love the show and hope to see new episodes sometime. Thanks, Jacob
I'm pretty confident that nothing like that exists for sale.
It's a shame though.
Hi, I know this question was asked in forum but I don't know how long ago so maybe now it is available.
where can I get the soundtrack for Gargoyles?
Some of the music is available for free at:
http://s8.org/gargoyles/archives/audio/CarlJohnson/
But there's no soundtrack on the market.
I was watching Gargoyles on Toon Disney tonight, plus my taped episodes over the weekend. I couldn't help myself, I whipped out my axe and hammered away. Eventually though I found the Gargoyles Title Theme. So guitar players out there here it is:
opening intro-10 measures- first measure is in 2/2 time then it goes into 4/4 time for the remaining 9. I could be wrong but it doesn't really matter.
Main-lead
E-13-11-9-8-6-14-13-11-8-5-13-9-11-13-9-11-14-17]CONTINUED]
B-
G-
D-
A-
E-
E-9-8-6-8-11-11-9-8-9-13-13-12-10-12-0h1-15h1]CONTINUE
B
G
D
A
E
E-0h1-15-13-12-17-13-11-9-8-6-14-13h11-8-5-13]CONTINUE
B
G
D
A
E
E-9-11-13-9-11-14-17]continued to outro-->
B
G
D
A
E
outro--->
E-6-6-6-6--6-6-6-----1-6-6-6]
B---------4-----1-1-1-------]----CONTINUE
G
D
A
E
E-6h5h6h8--9h11h13h12--13h14--14h17--18
B
G
D
A
E
==listen to the song for the timing it is really easy. Plus keep in mind that the opening "ahhhhh" sound seems to be in 2/2 time but the main "dummm da da dumm" flute? is in standard 4/4 time. And the outro is sped up considerably it is apparantly in 3/4 time.
Have fun with it. It sounds okay on an acoustic, but electric has a way better richness to it. I like to go crazy with the whammy bar on the 14th fret on the high E when its held for four counts. Another way to ROCK-up the sound is set the gain up to 7 or 8 and pull your switch all the way back.
questions-comments-corrections write me at iron_wind@hotmail.com I'll be happy to work with you.
A public service. Thanks.
Gargoyle customs-
It has been well established and I would think we all are well aquainted with the notion that Gargoyles didn't use names. Not for themselves as humans did and that the eventual use of names was influence and need of conformity from/by humans.
However you have said that gargoyles kept their myth, history and traditions alive by oral revelation from one generation to the next.
How where they able to tell sagas of things great leaders had done if they had no name of which to tell? (Try to tell your children about Napolean and all the things he did and all the people in his life without using his name)
It would be all too generic and vague for any real value. Did gargoyles never realy have great leaders? Did they consider the clan as a whole more important than the decision making of the leader?
Thanks
and further note-my post on the guitar tab--well the on the outro the difference in the type size from the field box to the post page made it look wrong. so here is the outro again.
E-6--6--6--6---6--6---6-------1---6---6---6]
B------------4------1---1---1-------]----CONTINUE
G
D
A
E
E--6h5h6h8---9h11h13h12---13h14---14h17---18
B
G
D
A
E
History to the gargoyles is more about the clan, about movements, than about individuals. But descriptive terms can be used to identify individuals. (Cf. Homer's Illiad.) I'm forgetting the technical term just at this moment -- where's Aris when you really need him -- but if you've got a guy named Ajax of the Broad Shoulders, for example, then do you really need the "Ajax" part of the name.
The point of NOT naming, as Hudson would say is to NOT set limits on who or what an individual is. So he might be "Of the Broad Shoulders" one minute and also be "Of the Massive Temper" the next. Both would be true, but reflect an aspect of the individual, as opposed to making an attempt to wrap the entire individual up into one word: Ajax. Over time these epithets would become as familiar as a name for an historical figure -- particularly in the context of a tale told over and over again.
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