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AUGUST 15
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
August 15th...
1057
Macbeth's forces are defeated. Thorfinn is killed at Dunsinane, widowing his young wife Ingibjorg. Canmore destroys all of Demona's gargoyles, except her. Canmore pursues Macbeth to Lunfanan, and history will record that Macbeth was killed there. But Macbeth and Demona discover a side effect of the Weird Sisters' spell. They are immortal and forever linked, feeling each other's pain when near. For either to die, one must kill the other. Prince Luach is able to rally his father's forces temporarily. Canmore is driven back. Luach is made High King of Scotland. Macbeth and Demona vanish severally into myth.
AUGUST 14
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
August 14th...
1040
With help from Demona and his cousin Thorfinn, Macbeth defeats Duncan's forces at the battle of Bothgoanan, near the town of Elgin in Moray, Scotland. Duncan is killed near Elgin. An unpopular king, he is not mourned by many. Duncan's son Canmore is banished and spirited away to England by Duncan's few remaining supporters. Canmore will become a protégé of Edward the Confessor, a Saxon. But he also becomes the new Hunter. For his own safety, Donald Ban is spirited away to Ireland.
1998
Vinnie visits family.
Victor writes...
1) Does Demona blame the Captain for the Wyvern Massacre, or just Goliath for not taking the other gargoyles out like their plan was?
2) What would have happened if Demona had never overheard Macbeth and Bodhe's conversation about betraying the gargoyles to the English, or if she did overhear but Macbeth had defended the gargoyles to Bodhe?
Greg responds...
1. She has plenty of blame to spread around.
2. Lots of stuff.
JULY 2
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
July 2nd...
1017
England's King, Canute of Denmark, divorces Elfgiva and marries Aethelred's widow, Queen Emma (Princess Katharine's aunt).
1776
The United States of America declares its independence.
dph writes...
First, I want to thank you for doing Today in Gargoyle Universe History. It really is fun.
I have some question about Princess Elena's parents. In a TIGUH for June 6th, you said "Hardicanute dies suddenly at a wedding, perhaps due to poison. He is succeeded by his half-brother, Edward the Confessor, son of Aethelred the Unready and Emma of Normandy, as King of England. Edward locks his mother Emma (Princess Katharine's aunt) up in a nunnery.".
I did take the time to look up Emma of Normandy and found these sites from which I am going to make my conjecture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_of_Normandy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_Normandy
http://www.robertsewell.ca/normandy.html
Sadly, I couldn't find much info about Emma of Paris.
1)Is Princess Elena's father Richard I of Normandy?
2)Is Princess Elena's mother either Gunnor of Crêpon or Emma of Paris?
2a)Assuming the answer to #2 is yes, which one is Prince Elena's mother?
Thank you for answering this question.
Greg responds...
1. Elena is the daughter of Duke Richard the Fearless of Normandy.
2. I don't have that information.
2a. See above.
JUNE 8
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
June 6th...
1042
Hardicanute dies suddenly at a wedding, perhaps due to poison. He is succeeded by his half-brother, Edward the Confessor, son of Aethelred the Unready and Emma of Normandy, as King of England. Edward locks his mother Emma (Princess Katharine's aunt) up in a nunnery.
MAY 1
This day in Gargoyles' Universe History....
May 1st...
1776
Adam Weishaupt founds the Bavarian Illuminati.
1996
Hakon's spirit reaches out across the globe and senses that his descendant Wolf shares his hatred of Goliath. He summons Wolf to Wyvern Hill in Scotland. Meanwhile, Goliath, Elisa, Angela and Bronx depart from Avalon and arrive in Australia. There they encounter the Matrix phenomena created by a pregnant Fox and her mother Anastasia Renard.
Makhasu writes...
What did Demona think of Prince Malcolm? He didn't seem to hate gargoyles, but he instilled a fear of Gargoyles in his daughter, Katherine, that adversely affected Demona's clan.
Greg responds...
I don't think she had a problem with Malcolm. Back in those days, she wasn't as virulently anti-human as she is now.
Makhasu writes...
You said on the COS dvd commentary, when Demona swings Macbeth around, "I think she's just a little bit in love with him there." While I don't think it was an strong romantic love, I do think she was much more affectionate towards him than she would have been to someone else. We never see her that friendly towards anyone else she's not romantically involved with, not even her own clan members. My question is, was she aware of it? Was he? Was Gruoch? >=)
Greg responds...
No. Not really. No comment.
Makhasu writes...
Why hadn't Macbeth and Gruoch gotten married by 1032? They were 27 years old by the time she was betrothed to Gillecomgain. Why didn't they marry before that?
Greg responds...
He had NO prospects. And Duncan probably wouldn't give permission (as both were of the royal blood). The fact that both were still unmarried to anyone else at the advanced age of 27, I think is an indication of how much they were in love.
Makhasu writes...
What was Macbeth's relationship with Gillecomgain like after Gillecomgain became the High Steward of Moray?
Greg responds...
Not good.
Makhasu writes...
What was Macbeth's relationship with Bodhe like after he became King in 1040? By 1057, neither he nor Luach seemed particularly fond of him.
Greg responds...
I think they were FOND of him, actually. Doesn't mean they agreed with him much.
Makhasu writes...
What was Demona's relationship with the people of Moray castle like? At Macbeth's coronation, those that were present cheered her on. How did they treat her over the next 17 years, and how did she react?
Greg responds...
Generally, pretty well. But there was probably some occasional tension.
Makhasu writes...
What happened to Duncan's wife? Was she alive when Duncan was killed?
Greg responds...
I'm not revealing this at this time.
Makhasu writes...
What was the relationship between Macbeth and Duncan like during the eight years that Duncan was king? By 1040, he seemed to trust Macbeth enough to go walking with him and his son.
Greg responds...
Barely.
Macbeth tried to demonstrate his loyalty. Duncan always regarded these attempts with suspicion.
Makhasu writes...
What did Gillecomgain think of being betrothed to marry Gruoch? Did he choose her, or was the arrangement purely on Duncan's orders?
Greg responds...
I think he saw the value of the alliance politically and economically.
Makhasu writes...
Did Luach have any children in the Gargoyles universe? Historically, he did. And his descendants tried to seize the throne in the 1100s.
Greg responds...
He did, yes.
Makhasu writes...
How did Canmore find out about Macbeth and Demona's link? How did those rumors get started?
Greg responds...
Think about it. Macbeth ages nearly twenty years in one night and suddenly has a gargoyle ally... Plus a few people knew about the "bargain" including Bodhe. Word was bound to get around. Not necessarily accurate word. But word.
Makhasu writes...
The Scottish people seemed pretty hateful/fearful towards gargoyles before Macbeth's reign. How was he able to change opinions and get people to accept Demona and her clan?
Greg responds...
Winners tend to get to make the rules. And the gargoyles helped the winning side win. So that went a LONG way toward reducing more OVERT prejudice.
Makhasu writes...
Did the English really care about exterminating Demona and her clan like Bodhe thought?
Greg responds...
It was only an excuse. They had larger political, religious and territorial concerns. (Not that they LIKED gargoyles.)
Makhasu writes...
You said that Gruoch's brother, MacBodhe, was murdered in 1033, and that Gillecomgain was the one that assasinated him. How is this possible? Gillecomgain died in 1032.
Greg responds...
I'm pretty sure I said that King Maol Chalvim II (or some combination of Maol & Duncan and/or someone OTHER than Gillecomgain that one or the other hired) murdered MacBodhe in 1033. If I said anything to imply that Gillecomgain himself killed MacBodhe, that was an error. But I don't think I said that.
Makhasu writes...
In 1020, Gruoch and Bodhe are referred to as guests at Moray castle. Where did they live, and how often did they visit Moray after Findlaech's death?
Greg responds...
They did not live at Castle Moray. I'm sure Bodhe had his own keep, but that keep was somewhere in Moray, and Bodhe's family were probably frequent guests of the Castle.
Makhasu writes...
What did Bodhe think of Gruoch being betrothed to Gillecomgain? He didn't seem nearly as enthusiastic at that wedding as he was when she married Macbeth. Which 'suitor' did he prefer her being married to?
Greg responds...
I think he LIKED Macbeth better (who wouldn't?) but he was too afraid to defy Duncan.
Makhasu writes...
Why did Goliath forgive the Captain of the Guards? Sure, he may not have intended for the Gargoyles to die, but he had no problems with the deaths of the soldiers of the castle, the refugees who were unlikely to be spared, etc... He even helped Hakon chase down Katherine when she tried to flee. This guy's just as creepy as any other villain we've seen.
Greg responds...
Forgiveness helps the forgiver at least as much as the forgiven. Or that's the theory.
Makhasu writes...
You've hinted that Luach was conceived during the time that Gruoch was married to Gillecomgain, with Macbeth being the father. Why would he and Gruoch take such a risk? He gave her up for her own safety... committing adultery would probably have resulted in her execution.
Greg responds...
Yep. So why would they take the risk?
The only answer I have is... why do you think?
Just to be clear, I'd like to make the point that I haven't "hinted" that Luach was conceived during Gruoch's marriage to Gillecomgain. Luach was definitely conceived during that time. I have suggested that PERHAPS Macbeth was the biological father, but that neither Gruoch or Macbeth know for sure.
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