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Sapphire writes...
Would any humans worship the new olympians when they reviel themselves to the world?
Greg responds...
Any? Maybe a few.
Sapphire writes...
Have any of the New Olympians seen the movie Aliens? and what do they think about it? I am asking these two questions because the New Olympians have ancestors like Medusa and the Minotaur that were slain by a human hero and the movie Aliens has a human hero called Riply who battles and slays the Alien Queen in a power loader suit.
Greg responds...
I doubt they've seen the movie.
Yadira writes...
Hi Greg, this is regarding the New Olympians.
In "The Mirror", Broadway says there are three races...humans, gargoyles, and Oberon's children. But what about the New Olympians? The New Olympians are secluded from the world for centuries, hiding on an island surrounded by a cloaking field. I don't think they are Oberon's children...otherwise they would have been at the Gathering....so can we say that there is a fourth race indeed called The New Olympians. And if we say that, can we assume that there might be other races as well? Thanks! :-)
Greg responds...
Well, you CAN assume that Broadway was only talking from his experience and education, not from any kind of omniscience. Which doesn't mean he was wrong.
Did you look at the New Olympian archive? Cuz, I've answered this many times before.
The New Olympians are hybrids. If you want to think of them as a fourth race, you can. But they are (mostly) mixed blood descendents of members of the three races.
LSZ writes...
Was the original Minotaur slain by Theseus the only minotaur?
Greg responds...
No.
LSZ writes...
1) Do the New Olympians know about Oberon?
2) Do they know the Greek gods were really fae?
3) Did any fae visit New Olympus after Oberon banished them from Avalon?
Greg responds...
1. Maybe.
2. Maybe.
3. Probably.
LSZ writes...
Did New Olympian scientists ever try to explain the workings of magic scientifically, seeing how it's a tech-driven society but has knowledge of magic?
Greg responds...
To some extent.
Faieq writes...
When you said that the gargoyles on New Olympus were never converted to NO religions and the fact that we never saw any gargoyles (except Goliath, Bronx and Angela) in the episode 'The New Olympians', and that you also said that the gargoyles on New Olympus wouldn't reveal themselves to the world immediately after the New Olympians do, does that mean that the gargoyles on New Olympus live away from the bulk of the New Olympian population?
Greg responds...
They are somewhat isolationist, yes. But I hesitate to make generalizations about any group.
LSZ writes...
Do any of the gargoyles of New Olympus practice any of the New Olympian religions?
Greg responds...
No.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Todd> Such scenarios have their root in reality - whereever a minority is oppressed by a majority, you'll get the individuals who'll fight back hatefully and the individuals who'll want to live in harmony.
In my opinion it's *extremely* silly to think that Gargoyles could be copying the X-men when both were obviously copying the real world...
Now X-Men and the *New Olympians*... well that's a whole other story. :-)
Greg responds...
New Olympians is influenced by Jack Kirby's Eternals or New Gods much more than X-Men.
But I think you're missing Todd's point. I don't think we were ever really a Batman rip-off any more than we were an X-Men rip-off. His question was about our concerns. And we were concerned that we'd be PERCEIVED as a Batman rip-off. We weren't concerned about being PERCEIVED as an X-Men rip-off. But frankly, I can't remember why. Because one concern is just as legitimate (or illegitimate) as the other.
Sapphire writes...
What are Taurus's five favorite movies?
Greg responds...
I doubt Taurus has seen all of five movies.
Vashkoda writes...
1a) Would there be any point in the future when the practice of mortal magic becomes more common than it is at the time of "The Journey"?
b) If so, roughly how long would it take for such a revival to come to pass? (decades, years, centuries?)
2a) Why is it so dangerous to mix fae and mortal magic? Energy is energy, right? And both fae and mortal magic are presumably of earthly origin. So what makes them so incompatible? b) What are the actual consequences of mixing the two?
3) The Archmage was able to bring the Grimorum to Avalon by "bending the rules", and so bypassed Oberon's Law. But in the end, he was still using the Eye to control the Grimorum, and hence, was "mixing magics". Why didn't this have any (visible) consequences?
4a) You've mentioned "ghost magic" before. Would it fall under the "mortal magic" category, or is it a completely different form of magic? b) If it's different, is it safe to mix with mortal or fae magic?
5) Which is the Megalith Dance powered by--fae or mortal magic?
6a) Do any New Olympians possess (or are capable of practicing) "fae" magic? b) Do any New Olympians practice "mortal" magic?
Greg responds...
1a. Maybe a tiny bit -- but not until WAY beyond 2198.
b. Centuries.
2a. Different frequencies maybe. Feedback. I don't know exactly. Just is.
b. BOOM. Usually. Or some other backfiring.
3. The Eye is a bit more flexible. It WANTS to "help".
4a. Another category, I think, maybe, sorta.
b. Not recommended, but less dangerous.
5. Not telling its origin right now.
6a. Maybe, but it's more internalized as "powers" generally.
b. Maybe, but not many. They're a technology driven society.
Vashkoda writes...
After the events in "Hunter's Moon", the Manhattan gang are the first gargoyle clan to be revealed to the general public.
1a) Which clan will be revealed next? b) Will it willingly reveal itself, or will it be discovered?
2a) When the New Olympians reveal themselves to the human world, will they also reveal that there are gargoyles living among them? b) Will the majority of the New Olympian gargoyles be open to starting relations with humans themselves?
Greg responds...
1a. Don't know.
1b. Don't know.
2a. Not right away.
2b. No.
Sapphire writes...
More qustions on New Olympus
1) You said that New Olympus picks up radio and television shows from the outside, what do they think of shows like Friends, the Simpsons, the David Letterman show, and Star trek?
2) When the New Olympians learn more about human religions will any of them convert to Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or Sikhism?
Greg responds...
1. I think Taurus likes Worf.
2. Anything's possible, but I wouldn't expect mass conversions to anything.
LSZ writes...
1) Are the new Olympians themselves aware of their fae origins?
2) Re: population of New Olympus thing. What's wrong with quantifying that? I don't want an exact number, I just want a rough guess. A million? More? Half a million? A hundred thousand or thereabouts?
3) If the answer to 1 is yes, do the humans of 2198 know of this? If they do, how do they interprete it without knowing the existence of the fae?
Greg responds...
1. Maybe.
2. I'm not good with numbers. I don't want to put something down here and have to live with it. So I'd rather not answer at all and leave it vague until or unless I have some need to define it.
3. Not answering 2198 questions until the contest is over.
Sapphire writes...
what kinds of problems will the illuminati society create for the New Olympians when they reveal themselves to the world?
Greg responds...
That's too complex a question to answer in this format.
Todd Jensen writes...
A question about the New Olympians question. It's obvious enough why the ones that were viewed as monsters by humans and consequently hunted by them (such as Taurus's minotaur ancestors) would want to flee to New Olympus and shut themselves off from the outside world. But why did the ones who were worshipped as gods decide to withdraw themselves to New Olympus? After all, if they were being worshipped, that would be more of an incentive to remain in the outside world rather than to leave it.
Greg responds...
They weren't actually immortal. Humanity was catching up. And nothing gets tired faster with the masses than a "fallen idol".
All this is to say, that there was no ONE reason. But there were many factors.
Ithica writes...
NO questions:
1. I'm quite interested in the Romeo-Juliet relationship in NO. (Maybe I'm just a romantic) I take it the two involved in it are called Sphinx and Terry Chung?
2. Obviously, Sphinx is a NO. Is Terry a human?
3. Is Terry male or female?
4. What, as vaguely or roughly as you'd like, does Sphinx look like?
Note: I have never seen your NO pitch. *Sob* I've never been to a Gathering!
Greg responds...
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Male.
4. Come to the next Gathering and see for yourself. L.A. 2001. Fourteen announced special guests already (and it's only September). You really don't want to miss this one.
Anonymous writes...
When did the New Olympians flee to New Olympus?
Greg responds...
Sometime ago.
Jackal's Love writes...
G'day Greg
Would any of the spinoffs featured the Pack (or at least members of the Pack) as villains?
Thank you for your time.
Greg responds...
Sure. Most. Let's see...
Gargoyles
Bad Guys
Gargoyles 2158 (revised)
for sure...
And I wouldn't be surprised if we also saw them in
Pendragon
New Olympians
TimeDancer
But I would be surprised if they showed up in
Dark Ages
Leon writes...
How did the new Olympians get so advanced in their technology? I mean they were completely Isolated from the rest of the world. Where did they get the reasorces? did they get any ouside help? the fae maybe?
Greg responds...
Why would they need outside help or resources? They were already VERY advanced by human standards when they first went into hiding.
Todd Jensen writes...
In your plans for the Gargoyles Universe, the New Olympians were a hybrid race descended from the offspring of human/fay matings back in the period of Greek mythology. However, you mentioned that the notion of the New Olympians pre-dated the making of "Gargoyles", as a separate series originally developed by Bob Kline.
Obviously, in the original notion of "New Olympians" that Kline developed, Oberon's Children wouldn't have been in it. So what was the origin for the New Olympians in the pre-Gargoyles version?
Greg responds...
It was even simpler. There were a variety of MORTAL creatures that existed back then. They were worshipped, hunted, etc., etc., etc. Eventually, they joined up and fled to New Olympus. Hid there for centuries.
They no more had an "origin" than the Gargoyles themselves do, as a species.
There was, at one point, a very complex notion that involved them time traveling back at some point and being their own originators, but we dropped it.
Tljack2001@aol.com writes...
I'm doing a report in class and I'm having a hard time I'm compering your cartoon "Gargoyles" to Edith Hamilton"s book Mythology could you tell me how you originated the characters in comparison to characters in Mythology, and why you changed the way Gargoyles live compared to Gorgons you know blah blah blah. It's a comparison and contrast report and i'm having a very hard time with it I know I'm on to something please help! Compare and contrast how you used stuff from "mythology" I have to have a source from you and this is all i found please help!! Plus I'm a girl so I have to do well on this because everyone says I don't know what I'm talking about and this is a "boy's" cartoon. Thankyou sooo much
Greg responds...
There was never any particular connection in my mind between Gargoyles and Gorgons. Sorry. I did have a Medusa character in mind for New Olympians. She was largely supplanted by Sphinx. But I was going to use Medusa in a different way if we had done that spin-off.
Gargoyles isn't a boy's cartoon. It's for anyone who likes it, obviously. Don't let anyone tell you different.
But I'm not sure how I can help you. I'm not going to sit here and either (a) write your paper for you or (b) write a paper of my own for you to cite.
In a nutshell, we looked for ways we could adapt mythology that intrigued us into the universe that we had created. We looked for ways to unify and simplify a diverse global mythology, without over-simplifying the characters of that mythology itself. We tried to be respectful and faithful to the ideas the characters and stories suggested to us. But we also tried to make it fit into a dramatic episodic context.
Does that help? It's quotable, I think.
Let me know how it turned out. Post it here when you're done.
Sixshot writes...
How does Hydras, Dragons, Harpies, Cerberus and all other mythological animals/creatures fit in the three races?
Greg responds...
Some may have been Children of Oberon (or Mab). Others may have been New Olympians or the like. That is half-breeds. Some may have been exagerations of something else all together.
LSZ writes...
1) In response to the 'which Coyote' thing in being compared to intelligence with Talos, I mean Coyote 6.0 and 7.0
2) What is it that makes Talos so smart? Extremely advanced AI? Remaining sorcery from Daidolos/a Cyclops' manufacture? All or none of the above?
Greg responds...
1. I don't know. I think probably Talos. The Coyote Robot, no matter how smart it gets, will always have a bit of Wile E. Coyote in its make-up.
2. Advanced A.I. mostly. (Keep in mind he's been rebuilt and upgraded many times. Both in hardware and software. Only his basic design style and memory files have remained consistent.)
LSZ writes...
1) How do the NO gargs look like, considering how vastly different each Gargoyle clan looks from one another..compare the Mayan to the London to the Ishimuran..
2) Since the NOs in NEW OLYMPIANS seem to be divided into these main factions, the peace-with-humanity, the worship-us-you-lousy-humans and the isolationist policy..which side would the majority of the NO gargoyles side with?
Greg responds...
1. I'm not gonna commit til I've worked it out with Guler or someone.
2. All three. Sometimes all at once. Hey, it's an election year!
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