that might not be so bad... i don't think we've ever taken a whole week to discuss room-clearing before...

and when you think about it, discussing room-clearing beats discussing nothing, which certainly occurs in here from time to time...

so... hmmm... on what time zone midnight does the room usually clear? i forget, is it Eastern? why is that?

: )
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Tue, Dec 13, 2005 6:23:17 am EST from 68.114.195.212

I hope the clearing is not being put off for another week. Everyone will be fearful of starting discussions, and the only thing we'll see in here are posts on when the room is going to clear.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Charlie don't surf, and we think he should." -The only band that really matters.
posted @ Tue, Dec 13, 2005 12:21:05 am EST from 69.174.1.148

Wow, I guess the weekly room-clearing is handled by a simple crontab?

Two more days until I can watch the Gargoyles DVD. Going to pick it up from the post office tomorrow, but I don't have time to start watching before my finals are over.
StarCreator
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 11:59:48 pm EST from 69.244.75.90

*agrees with IRC Goliath*

yes, cuz thats my fun day... my 'i don't have to run day'...

*sigh* just another manic monday indeed...
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 11:09:44 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

♪Just another manic Mondaaaaay♪
IRC Goliath - [goliath1 [at] pacbell [dot] net]
♪I wish it was Sundaaay♪
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 7:54:27 pm EST from 209.234.142.80

BISHANSKY - I think that you'd better wait until the room clears. I'd like to see what your topic is, but I think that almost everyone here is feeling too intimidated by the delayed room clearing; it's the old "Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop" Syndrome.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 7:07:04 pm EST from 4.245.20.172

At this point, I think we're all waiting for the room to clear before we get into any discussions.

I have an idea for a topic, but I don't know whether I should post it now, or wait for the CR to clear.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 5:15:08 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

The room was down for a little while earlier this morning; I don't know for how long, but maybe that stopped the room refresh from activating.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 8:54:31 am EST from 4.244.12.22

Hmmm... No room refresh yet?
Leo
posted @ Mon, Dec 12, 2005 12:42:17 am EST from 68.231.241.236

We just bought the new DVD set, and I've let a lot of people on Gaiaonline know about it, so hopefully there'll be a lot of sales! ^^
Yami Raven - [raven_mccloud2002@yahoo.com]
Check out www.gaiaonline.com
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 9:12:36 pm EST from 68.58.250.87

Matt> yes, I miss the button TERRIBLY.

GORE> I've noticed that a few times, when I hit "submit" to submit my post, it makes like the code is wrong, when in fact it wasn't wrong at all. it's done this many times for me, but not every time. About 3/10 do this. Jsust letting you know.

MY REVIEW of NARNIA is now up, I managed to retrieve my deleted copy (It wasn't deleted, just mispalced.)

www.geocities.com/oscarmovs/narnia.html
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 8:56:45 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

does anybody else miss the "Last Week's Comment Room" link on the old Comment Room? the room being cleared isn't such a big deal if you only have to click to look at the last thing said instead of dig though the archives.
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 8:41:05 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

Demonskrye> My review was dlelted, so I have to do it again. :(

I'll try to get it up tomorrow.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 7:59:41 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

It probably doesn't help much that the room's so close to being cleared that it's not an ideal time to start anything new in it. The gaps between posts often seem to be longest on weekends.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 6:46:35 pm EST from 4.245.17.185

I also felt very positive about what I hope is the first of several Chronicles of Narnia films. A lot of really great effects work with a good basis in pratical effects. There was stuff left out from the book, but I mostly felt they did a good job of fleshing out what is actually a fairly short story. There were some lines not from the book that didn't work, but many that did. I really liked how the kids were fleshed out so that pretty much everyone had character arcs, not just Edmund.

I'm curious as to what scenes in particular you missed from the book, BB. The link to your review doesn't seem to be working.
Demonskrye
Aslan is on the move.
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 4:53:18 pm EST from 209.6.250.47

Wow. Almost 24 hours between posts. Record?

I saw THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA yesterday, and WOW. It was really good. It was like a children's version of the Lord of the Rings. The special and visual effects were almost the same; but I'd givbe the hand to LOTR.

The film was slow to get going, alomst 30 minutes before we get to Narnia fully. It felt like a lot was cut out from the book, too.

Still, the acting was good, and I wouldn't be surprised if Narnia was nominated for a bunch of oscars. I hope Tilda Swinton receives a nomination for her amazing performance as the White withc. She was truly evil; the only other character I've seen more evil is probably JR Ewing.

ASlan looked REALLY well done; at some points you could tell he was digital but for the most part you never noticed.

The film ended without something to say that there would be a sequal, which there probably will be.

Check out my review at

www.geocities.com/oscarmovs/narnia.html
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 3:14:03 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

It has been released in stores. Best Buy does have it.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 3:02:54 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

Hi everyone! I hit my local wal-mart and best buy earlier and no luck! No gargoyles season 2 on display. Only the first season. Was it actually released in the stores yet? Does best buy have it?
Dan
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 2:50:48 pm EST from 68.42.25.193

Well, when ever the CR slows down, we can always talk about Demona's measurements ;)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 1:40:02 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

Well, when ever the CR slows down, we can always talk about Demona's measurements ;)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 1:39:27 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

*twiddles thumbs*
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 1:38:04 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

*crickets* Wow this place really died.
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Sun, Dec 11, 2005 12:08:16 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

... And it's at 427 now.

Personally, I'd take the whole Amazon Ranking with a grain of salt. Not everyone buys from Amazon, I'm sure copies are being bought in stores.

And, unlike last year, there wasn't an announced day to do a mass buying on the DVD. I know I pre-ordered mine in October,
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 12:18:46 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

I don't know if there's a problem with my DVD or all of them are like this. On disc 1 of Gargoyles season to volume 1, after I selected play all and yes on the episode introductions, it showed Greg giving his introduction, but I couldn't hear like the first two seconds of it, it was mute. Does anyone else have that problem?
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
"One must do what one has.......I suppose"
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 12:11:11 pm EST from 69.111.177.246

My DVD has arrived. Ordered on the 6th, shipped on the 7th, arrived on the 9th. Yay, Amazon.com. :)

Re: Gargoyles trading cards - Don't know how much they're worth, but I know they're not too hard to find. Seems to be at least a couple auctions up on eBay for sealed boxes of them at any given time.

21 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2006 before the rates increase.
Patrick
"I got mine!" - Hagar the Horrible
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 8:20:57 am EST from 67.38.242.37

forget the previous signature. "it was an illusion,ooooooo"
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
"One must do what one has.......I suppose"
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 2:42:51 am EST from 69.111.177.246

Hello everyone. long time viewer, first time commentor. we have a problem. ive checked on amazon.com and the DVD rating for Gargoyles season 2 volume 1 went from #320 all the way up to #451
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
Bryan Osborne
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 2:38:35 am EST from 69.111.177.246

Gorebash: If I remember correctly, Greg revealed Angela's parentage in the commentary for "Awakening."

And for some reason, my DVD arrived from Amazon.com today even though I just selected standard shipping. But I couldn't watch any tonight because I was out seeing "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe." More to report on both later.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Charlie don't surf, and we think he should." -The only band that really matters.
posted @ Sat, Dec 10, 2005 1:13:22 am EST from 69.174.1.148

That's a DOOZY of a blooper right there!

Just about to settle down and watch DISC 3. The Brooklyn disc, the coolest looking one of them all!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 10:44:43 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Vashkoda>our writting contest is still open if you want to enter. They gave us till the 25th.

http://www.ka-blamo.com/gargs/dvd.html

Haha Im stuck with these dvds until someone wins them see link for picture :P
shara
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 10:42:11 pm EST from 209.178.147.15

Battle Beast: The episode takes place after Avalon, meaning Goliath, Elisa AND Bronx were out on the World Tour. :P
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 10:06:27 pm EST from 172.175.22.174

I get the two hudsons thing (There are two of them) but what's wrong with Bronx?????
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 9:59:44 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Starlioness> I never noticed that Demona was the "older" model untill Greg pointed it out. MAybe he shouldn't have pointed it out!!

Coldstone> I new it was his face Demona picked up, but I never saw Desdemona next to her.

Huh.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 9:55:55 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Michelle> There doesn't seem to be a very big demand for these; I think the fandom is small enough that people who were interested already have sets. You might try listing them on ebay, although there are several boxes there that don't seem to be selling. Or you could wait until after the comic book comes out and sells millions of copies (don't we all wish!) and see if they go up in value ;)

Speaking of selling millions of copies, I know nothing of the comic book industry. How many issues of something like this will even be printed? A couple hundred? A thousand? Five thousand? I have no idea of the scale of something like that. Although, since this is a smaller comic company, I'd guess the number is relatively small. If they sell well, will they print more? Does anyone know much about the comic industry?
Kaylle - [kaylle at ladyavalon.com]
www.GargoylesDVD.com
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 8:10:44 pm EST from 18.244.0.88

IRC GOLIATH - Yes, I really ought to write these things more carefully.

The element about the Captain of the Guard in "Shadows of the Past" that I view as more questionable is that his real crime wasn't directed against Goliath and his clan but against the humans of Castle Wyvern, and he shows no remorse about having attempted to turn them over to the Vikings.

I wonder whether there were any deaths (or serious injuries) when Oberon put all of New York to sleep during "The Gathering". But I can see why they wouldn't want to dwell on that (aside from the S&P issue); it would only distract the audience from the struggle over Alex (and probably lead to many viewers taking an attitude of "Oh, sure, ignore all the helpless sleeping citizens in favor of some rich guy's son!").
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 7:05:07 pm EST from 4.245.19.225

just got through watching the commentary on City of stone and a few other other eps. I know most fans know most of Greg's stuff. but I did a get a few answers for myself I've been wondering since watching COS for the first time.

I can't believe I didn't notice that the face Demona picks up was Coldstone's at first until Greg stated the obvious, nor did I notice Desdemona's crumbled body next to him.. couldn't find Iago among the rubble but oh well :p.

and one of the scenes that made me go WTF? in COS pt 1. when Demona talks to the Captain she's instantly older. good to know it was a flub in the model sheets..

too bad Luach was later killed by Canmore. he looks like the Prince from Beauty and the Beast for some reason.

also at the very end of COS when the Gargoyles leave the castle you can notice that Goliath has a bracelet around his ankle like Demona :lol:

I noticed in Vows, in the first flashback when Demona runs up to Goliath she doesn't swing her legs up like she did in the 2nd flashback. I remember when it first aired she did it both times .. oh well.

speaking of Beauty and The Beast . I wonder if Belle has a holster like Elisa does ;) also did Elisa ever get the lower half of the gown back?. I thought that epsiode was a little risque with Fox naked and Elisa without her gown.. VERY understanding S&P people indeed
Starlioness - [starlion3@yahoo.com]
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 7:04:06 pm EST from 65.102.142.109

Gorebash> don't forget all the folks who died when Airship 1 crashed into the river!
you did mention Demona going around killing people, esspecially in City of Stone she does some hardcore murdering both in flashbacks and of helpless New Yorkers. not to mention those who died in car accidents and the like when they turned to stone.
i'm sure there are more deaths if i thought about it for a while...
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 3:05:23 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

Spoilers in intros? Yes. There are 3 that come to mind. Greg gives away Fox being pregnant in the intro to Outfoxed. Greg gives away Thailog's existence in the intro th "Double Jeopardy". And I believe he gives away Angela's parents before Avalon 1, but I'm foggy on that one (it was late when I reached Avalon).

If TGC comes out on DVD I will absolutely support and buy copies just like I have thus far. I still think there are some very nice storylines in TGC, even if they butchered what Greg had envisioned. "Dying of the Light" is still, by far, my most favorite TGC episode. For that episode alone I'd get the set.

We talk every so often about deaths of characters in the series and how they typically fall to their death so you don't see it. Then you have Demona in CoS just out and out murdering people and you see it and, if you catch on to it, is actually pretty shocking for a kids/Disney flick.

But then I'm watching "Leader of the Pack" and you have Coyote rip the iron gates at Rikers and throw them on top of a group of 4 or 5 guards. After it lands, you see 2 guards sort of squirming as their legs are trapped.. but the 2 or 3 guys in the middle of the group never even get a step off to run away before the thing hits. So they're pretty much dead, and not from falling (well.. not from them falling, but from a falling gate.. but still, significant difference).

Then you see Magus die in Avalon 3 which, by far, is the most emotional death you see (up to that point anyways). Even if you want to call Goliath's "suicide" in Awakenings a death, I'd still put Magus' as more powerful. That one still almost gets me.

I still have some problems with "Shadows of the Past". It feels like Goliath forgives Captian of the Guard just a little too quickly. (But then again, he's always seeming to forgive Demona.. but I think there's some sentimental thoughts that push his willingness to forgive with her).
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 2:40:31 pm EST from 207.206.245.180

Todd: Was getting caught up on the board and wanted to share a laugh I had when I took something you posted way out of context "Goliath actually dates Merlin to the 5th *century* A.D." After 5 WTFs I finally figured out what you were referring to.
IRC Goliath - [goliath1 [at] pacbell [dot] net]
"da @&#%!?... I don't even know... I... n-durr"
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 1:06:48 pm EST from 209.234.142.80

Harvester of Eyes: It's the Interactive VCR Board Game at the end of the Heroes Awaken tape. When you make it all the way to the end, the words "orday rewindum tapus!" come on to tell you to rewind to the beginning of the game so you can start over. It's a neat little game. They even got the voice actors to record lines for it! This line's my favorite:

Demona: I can come back and freeze any of you whenever I want! Bwahahahah!

Priceless. :P
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 12:17:42 pm EST from 172.160.116.87

Taina: Wow. That's crazy. By the way, what is this Heroes Awaken Game that you're quoting in your signature? I've never heard of this.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Charlie don't surf, and we think he should." -The only band that really matters.
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 8:59:50 am EST from 69.174.1.148

My husband found a complete set of trading cards and I was wondering where I could find out how much these are worth or if there is someone interested in purchasing them.
Michelle - [eightofcups@gmail.com]
Michelle
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 8:40:56 am EST from 24.250.199.1

Those who want to see the two Hudsons and Bronx from the episode "Kingdom," click my name. :P
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 5:33:19 am EST from 172.146.172.217

Damn, guess I didn't win Greg's contest, and the ultimatedisney one is over. In case people forgot, GNC's 'Design a Gargoyle' contest ends tomorrow at midnight EST.

Guess I can still try to win a DVD at MGC or the comics site. ;)
Vashkoda - [vashkoda@glaringdream.org]
posted @ Fri, Dec 9, 2005 1:10:02 am EST from 129.98.124.232

Kris: I don't think Greg will be making fun of the Goliath Chronicles, per se, but rather telling the stories that he'd originally wanted to tell, but couldn't. The whole sordid tale behind the Goliath Chronicles is in the archives (check the link provided), and from what I've read, he doesn't begrudge them anything. I should warn you: have a generous quantity of inebriants on hand when you sit down to watch any of them, but ESPECIALLY when watching "To Serve Mankind," "A Bronx Tale," and "Generations." (One of the things I'm anticipating from the comic is to see what Greg had planned for Demona and Angela).

Patrick: Actually, I've noticed that there's still some mastering issues on a few of the "Definitive Edition Remasters." Again, that's my main motive for wanting to get the Platinum Collection. With just a little more tweaking, a few of the early songs like "The Musical Box" and "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" would be perfect.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"What a choice. A robot who thinks he's a human, or a human who's gone to the dogs." -Dingo, in "Upgrade."
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 11:16:11 pm EST from 69.174.1.148

Matt: "so isn't the 'two Hudsons and a Bronx" scene on the DVD? i don't think that was ever corrected"

Yep. That's still on the DVD. If you look closely you can watch Talon pass right through the first Hudson. And the tip of Broadway's right wing vanishes for a few frames when he's stretching. (Thanks to Demona Taina for pointing that last one out)
Leo
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 4:04:04 pm EST from 68.231.241.236

Phil >>> Ah okay, I see why I missed "Gilgamesh" now. Jeffrey refers to him/her (?) as "Gillie" throughout the episode.

Todd >>> Good to know there's some fallout over "Metamorphosis" before Derek/Talon appears again, thanks for the reassurance.

Battle Beast >>> I'll definitely pick up "The Goliath Chronicles" if they release it. I only saw two or three of those episodes and would like to see the rest. I bet Greg'll take a shot or two at them in the comics anyway, so it'd be nice to catch onto however he makes fun of them. Don't care if they're almost entirely terrible (and non-canon), still wanna see 'em. Hopefully Season 2 Part 2 will be released and will sell well enough to encourage Disney to release it.
Kris - [plekopleko@hotmail.com]
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 2:28:28 pm EST from 69.17.169.178

errors on DVD> "Kingdom" is on the DVD, right? so isn't the 'two Hudsons and a Bronx" scene on the DVD? i don't think that was ever corrected, but it certainly was an error.
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 1:09:42 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

Re: Duncan - It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end.

HoE - I used to have every Genesis album in cassette form, but then the tapes started getting so old that a number of them just wouldn't play anymore. So I've been gradually re-buying them on CD. The nice thing is that most CD versions of albums from the pre-CD era are "remastered" from the original studio tapes, so the sound is a lot better. The CDs I've just bought are "Invisible Touch" and "We Can't Dance," which were the last two albums before Phil Collins left the group.

23 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2006 before the rates increase.
Patrick
"We're going to have the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tapdanced with Danny Kaye." - Chevy Chase, "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation"
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 12:58:11 pm EST from 24.106.128.24

If and or when The Goliath Chronicles comes to DVD, would you buy the set as a means supporting the show??? I would buy the set, but I still don't like TGC.

I can't say the same for the rest of you. Just wondering.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 12:55:28 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

I've watched the entire DVD. The "Vows" ending is the only error
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 12:01:43 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

The highest I saw that DVD sales rank get to was 230.

The "Vows" animation error is the only one, that I know, which was corrected in later episodes but found its way to the DVD.

Any easter eggs? I haven't spent any time looking for them.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 10:39:28 am EST from 207.206.239.113

I lurk on the board every so often and I have the Gargoyles S2 Part 1 DVD Boxset on order. Anyway, is the Clocktower background at the end of "Vows" the only error on the DVD set that has been found? (which I think is a minor error)

Also, should the rest of the Gargoyles Season 2 be released, I hope they make sure NOT to use the first version of the episode "The Gathering Part 2" with the audio skew error with Puck right before commerical break in the episode. That would be very annoying.
Paul Cousins
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 10:15:07 am EST from 68.220.2.231

Does anyone know how high the sales rank for Gargoyles got on Tuesday? I was working an 8-hour shift between 11:30 and 7:30. When I left, it was around 283, and I don't think it had gone past 200 when I got home.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 9:48:23 am EST from 69.174.1.148

I really wish that the people who run that IMDB site would either drop the "Gargoyles" mention or explain exactly what the influence was.

KRIS - Goliath actually dates Merlin to the 5th *century* A.D.

As for Elisa's response to "Metamorphosis", we do get a reference to it in "Eye of the Beholder", where her first thought is that the "werefox" could have been another mutated victim like Derek (and proceeds to show a lot of strong suspicion towards Xanatos thereafter, such as saying to him that she trusts him as far as she could throw him). It also gets mentioned in the "City of Stone" commentary where she's storming into the castle in Part Three to confront Xanatos (and winds up getting frozen in stone while touching Owen).
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 8:46:48 am EST from 4.244.12.84

Kris> Characters from "A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time":
Arthur Morwood-Smyth and Lydia Duane are the archaeologists who discovered the scrolls. Banquo and Fleance are MacBeth's henchman and henchwoman, respectively. And Gilgamesh is Jeffrey Robbins's dog.
Phil - [p1anderson@go.com]
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 8:38:18 am EST from 69.129.121.95

*Waits impatiently for his set to arrive in NZ*

I can't wait to see these episodes. All of the Gargoyles were re-edited in some way when they were broadcast over here (the merging of the first two episodes of Awakening into one twenty minute episode was the worst example). It will be interesting to see what I missed, particuarly City of Stone, my favourite multi-parter of the series.
Mr. X
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 6:53:12 am EST from 202.154.136.24

Resurrection of Wolf avatar!...in honor of Season 2's premiere, "Leader of the Pack".

At the end of "A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time", the credits for John Rhys-Davies read, "Macbeth" and "Morwood-Smyth". Who's Morwood-Smyth? One of the newscasters?

I also wonder which characters were Duane, Fleance, Banquo, and Gilgamesh in that ep--especially since Macbeth only had two lackies (the blonde guy and the tough-looking red head girl).

Given the more recent discovery (for me at least--not sure what year Greg revealed this) that Hudson is Broadway's father, it gives the character development a little extra something, considering what they both go through.

I forget, does Goliath claim that Merlin's time was 5 B.C. or 5 A.D. ? It's funny that we're pretty much given Arthur's backstory in a speech by Macbeth. Wonder if the writing team knew this early into the Season 2 scripts development that he'd actually be making an appearance.

I don't remember it being such a long stretch of time between Derek changing in "Metamorphosis" and the show dealing with that again. Shame there's no acknowledgement of it or any indication of emotional toll on Elisa in the several episodes following. Guess it's one of those off-screen things...maybe we're to assume that after her big cry in the clocktower at the end of "Metamorphosis", she bottled it up and did her job the same as always until Derek and the Mutates showed up again.

Yay, "The Mirror" ! Huge fun, so well written, and a very well-animated ep as well. Must watch again soon.

Man, these DVDs are a really big deal, especially for those of us with no recordings who're unwilling to touch bootlegs.

The intros are kinda neat. The Gathering of Cast and Crew featurette was decent. The commentaries are what I'm most interested in, but I didn't get that far yet. Just watched most of the first disc tonight, up to "The Mirror". That whole string of episodes is series gold (Lighthouse, The Mirror, Eye of the Beholder, Vows, City of Stone 4-parter--we'll see about The Silver Falcon, dunno if I ever saw that one).
Kris - [plekopleko@hotmail.com]
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 6:39:48 am EST from 69.17.169.178

Shara> i have no problems with people liking the Goliath/Demona relationship as it existed in the past shown through flashbacks. however, i do wonder why people wish, hope, even EXPECT Goliath and Demona to get back together after Vows! why would anyone want that for these characters? nostalgia? ignorance? drug-induced delusion? if someone wants a storybook ending they should rent some other disney stuff, Gargoyles shows relationships far more realistically. when your spouse betrays you repeatedly, attempts to kill you repeatedly, goes through drastic negative personality changes, threatens the lives of those you love and those you have sworn to protect, taken other mates and tries to justify it all, i'd say its time you move on.
yes, Gargoyles is a great show, but anyone who wants G&D to get back together romantically or thinks they should also wants to ruin the series and make it so its no longer a great show. having G&D re-couple would destroy the realism of their evolving relationship and make them no more than your typical cookie-cutter kids program protaginist with girlfriend. boring.
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 3:12:10 am EST from 68.114.195.212

matt>Im just going to throw my two cents in. (ill probally get yelled at) Everyone has a right to what they wish in a fandom or show or etc.
80% of the xena fandom wanted gabrielle and xena to be lesbians which they where not if you followed the show haha. Does'nt mean anyone who wished this was any less of a fan.

Some people love the demona and goliath coupled and like the episodes that show the past. Some people don't. DOe'snt mean everyone has to be down on these people for that. At least they are fans and contribute to liking the show and to the dvd sales.

Not all fans are ones who can quote things from episodes either. Not all fans are ones who know every episode of the show. Does it matter. We are all fans of a great great show.
shara
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 1:13:30 am EST from 209.178.149.108

Demona/Goliath> i can't think of any serious fans of the show who talk about wanting Goliath and Demona back together. i doubt there is even one regular poster in this Comment Room who wishes that, though i could be wrong. now, i have seen that desire expressed from some of the people who ask stupid or already answered questions over in Ask Greg. this signifies, in my head at least, that the fans who want Goliath and Demona together are the same fans who are ignorant of the show or of the characters therein and don't bother to familiarize themselves with the characters before making judgements on how they think said characters should behave. either that or they are just not aware that when an ex-lover repeatedly makes attempts against your life you probably shouldn't pursue a relationship with them in the future.
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Thu, Dec 8, 2005 12:09:11 am EST from 68.114.195.212

THANKS SHAN!!!

^_^ Someone read my post! ^_^

Barry> Siren just asked the same question and I asked it last year. There has to be SOMETHING connecting the reference, cuz the IMDB checks all references. (I tried to submit one today.)
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 11:34:30 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Barry : It didn't; that's just an internet rumor.
Spen
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 11:23:33 pm EST from 207.177.11.252

Those shopping at Best Buy> They don't seem to be consistent in how they file from store to store. Try every remote place that seems logical.

BattleBeast> You asked way back "This may sound dumb, but what's a PX???" You wouldn't know the term unless you've been in or around the military. At least for the US Military, t's basically the base store. I think it stands for Public EXchange, but my Dad retired from the Navy years ago so my brain's rusty on the exact meaning of the abbreviation. Definitely not a dumb question.

I myself can't afford the DVD at the moment, but am hoping maybe somebody will be kind enough to gift me one a few weeks down the road. I have made that desire well known to those who I know are thinking this way.
Shannon "Shan" Muir - [shanemuir@aol.com]
Shannon "Shan" Muir
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 10:06:26 pm EST from 207.200.116.196

Hello to this room...

I was wondering if any had seen this at amazon.com (taken from imdb.com) for the Gargoyles season 2 set:

"Referenced in: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"

Does anyone know how Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings referenced Gargoyles?

Thank you for your time...
Barry
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 10:04:44 pm EST from 129.1.221.87

First time poster, long time reader. I went to my local Best Buy on Dec 6th to buy the dvd and couldn't find it so I asked a guy for help and when he found he was didn't even know that Season one was on dvd. I thought that was really weird.
Elisa/Goliath forever
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 8:13:36 pm EST from 64.12.116.204

HAHA WOW I feel really stupid!! Ok, my DVD came in the mail today. But I didn't know that. I just decided to go out and get the mail at 7:30 P.m. and lo and behold there it is! I HAVE BEEN HOME ALL DAY AND THE THING WAS SITTING IN MY MAILBOX!!!! well Amazon did say that the estimated delivery date would be the 13th.
*Goes off to watch*
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 7:50:41 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

I don't think you have to be a Goliath/Demona shipper to like the original ending of Vows. Though I wonder if anyone will be confused by it, such as people who haven't seen the ep or haven't seen it in a long time. Anyway, I can't compare the endings yet. I have to wait for my DVD to arrive :)
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 7:30:19 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

Got my copy of the DVD from Amazon.com today, and it was worth it. So far, I've seen "City of Stone" with the Commentary on (though I'll need to watch Part Two with the Commentary on again, because I was interrupted by my landlady - the apartments in my building are having the locks changed and she needed to give me the new key - and missed part of the commentary on the scene where Duncan and Gillecomgain fall out).

Almost all of the information on it was things that we already know from "Ask Greg", though there were one or two new bits here (such as why they had Macbeth's soldiers dropping stones upon the English using the battering ram on the castle gates instead of pouring boiling oil out of a cauldron). I was pleased that they deliberately paused long enough for us to hear Demona's two big lines, "What have I - what have they done to you?" and "The access code is 'alone'." Plus a little about the historical background (including admissions that they might have maligned Gillecomgain and Bodhe, the same way that Shakespeare maligned Macbeth and Gruoch). I haven't seen anything else on it yet, but I'm planning to see some of the episode introductions tomorrow and over the next few days. This'll be great fun.

And I don't think that the menus are quite so bad - I like a few of the touches on them such as the "gargoyle claws tearing a scene away" when you go to a new menu, and the Hunter's emblem for a cursor.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 6:41:29 pm EST from 4.244.12.20

Just a quick note to say that you can love the original ending to Vows without being a Goliath/Demona shipper... I've always preferred the original ending, even if it was a mistake (and I am wholeheartedly a Goliath/Elisa fan). I think maybe it's a second or two longer than the corrected one? I don't know, but the first one always felt to me like Goliath was mourning his loss and acknowledging that it's permanent. And it gave him enough time to do that. The second one always felt more rushed. It didn't quite last long enough for me to feel the same sense of closure. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, or am I just babbling on? ;)

As for DVDs, my local Best Buy had two filed away in the TV Shows section. None in the New Releases, but at least it wasn't filed in Children's...
Kaylle - [kaylle at ladyavalon dot com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 5:28:52 pm EST from 18.244.2.5

Greg B: "Duncan did fall to his death after being killed by that orb the Sisters gave Macbeth."

So then Duncan didn't fall to his death- he was killed by the orb and was already dead as he was falling. You can't die twice.

I don't know what the deal with people wanting Demona and Goliath together is. You're right, though, that in our society it seems that a man hitting a woman is abuse but a woman hitting a man is no big deal. If a man reports being beaten by his wife, most people would probably just think he's a wuss. Likewise, nobody seems too upset about the female teacher who had sex with her fourteen year old student- if the genders were reversed, everyone would call it molestation, yet as is, a lot of people think the student got lucky. An adult having sex with a child whom (s)he teaches is an abuse of power and sexual assault, period. This has gotten far afield. Back to the main topic: Demona had 1,000 years to grow apart from Goliath, and she's much too far gone to come back anytime soon.

Oh, and I wrote my amazon review yesterday. Should we start posting reviews elsewhere? I don't have an account at Best Buy's website, or any other online broker I can think of.
Jurgan - [jurgan6@yahoo.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 4:56:11 pm EST from 68.58.170.217

I should have the results of the Gargoyles, A-Z contest posted tonight for all to see. Winners have been notified via email and my contact at BVHE has the results and mailing addresses for the winners. He's said that he'll be shipping out the prize copies today. :)

- Marty Lund
Director of Operations
CreatureComics
http://www.creaturecomics.com
Marty Lund - [creaturecomics@yahoo.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 4:27:05 pm EST from 208.204.155.241

Yesterday, using my meager funds, I managed to buy all the copies of Gargoyles Season 2 Volume 1 at my local hastings . . . . . . . . after spending over 15 minutes looking for the only copy. It was sealed away so that only those looking for it would have hope of finding it. Thankfully, my local Walmart had enough copies to make for it.
dph
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 2:42:48 pm EST from 161.31.67.87

Ok, forgive me, I feel like ranting ;)
Demona/Goliath: Okay, I mean no disrespect to shippers for this pair, but I honestly don't know how anyone can watch every episode of Gargoyles and still think that these two belong together. Yeah, Demona is an awesome character, so is Goliath...but together? nah. Their views are too radically different.

And really..how much abuse from Demona could Goliath take? Before the end of vows, before Goliath knows it's officially over, Demona threatens his life, the lives of his clan mates, and Elisa. She turns him into a zombie, and uses his emotions for her against him to coerce him into helping Xanatos to make constructs that will harm him and his clan. Not to mention how she uses Goliath wrongly in VOWS.

Now, if we think about it, what if the gender roles were reversed? What if Goliath was the female and Demona the male? if the "male" Demona did these things to the "female" Goliath. Or if Goliath was the villain, and Demona leader of the clan... Would people want them together? I doubt it. It's sexist
I know, but unfortunately, it's how most people think. (I remember reading a ramble by Greg Weisman where he talked about this, but I can't find it in the archives).

And I just love the irony that many of the atrocities Demona performs against the clan and Goliath, actually helps bring Goliath and Elisa closer together, as in THE MIRROR!

Okay, end rant ;)
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 2:39:27 pm EST from 205.188.117.11

I entered the contest where one had to do an A-Z character list of the Gargoyles Universe.

When does that contest end and how will I know if I won.
Matt Fews
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 2:24:29 pm EST from 209.47.172.60

Ah, MacDuff it is. Duncan's death seemed pretty extreme for the show, especially the way his eyeballs got sucked out.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 1:23:13 pm EST from 207.206.246.43

MacDuff was thrown head first into a rock (he fell sideways), and Duncan did fall to his death after being killed by that orb the Sisters gave Macbeth.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Clicky, clicky.]
I am so going to the Special Hell
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 12:54:46 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

No, Duncan got electrocuted by the Weird Sisters' little ball of light thingamajig, that way they could avoid another fall to the death. I don't know who fell into a rock, but it might have been a character with a name in the script that was never spoken out loud. I think Macduff was like that.

And I certainly understand that the commentary would spoil the episodes it's commenting on, or there'd hardly be a point. I'm fine with it spoiling other eps. in the same DVD set. I just wish it hadn't given away things that didn't happen until much later, as it seriously weakens the surprises for first-time viewers.
Jurgan - [jurgan6@yahoo.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 11:19:12 am EST from 68.58.250.87

That was Duncan, wasn't it? Who "fell sideways" into the rock and died? So that MacBeth could then become King. Ja ja?
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 10:18:27 am EST from 207.206.246.65

I picked up copy #11 from Best Buy last night so I had something to watch tonight, rather than wait for Amazon to ship it out. The DVD wasn't in the new releases section, but rather with the season 1 DVD.

Watched Mirror, Vows, CoS 1-4 (with commentary on), and the 10 minute featurette with the cast interviews.

I don't recall there being any real spoilers in the intros. There is a bunch in the CoS commentary, but you have to assume spoilers in commentary tracks. However in CoS 1 Greg does say something like (paraphrasing) "hey, if you haven't watched the series yet, spoiler alert, as we're going to be talking about lots of stuff" and then there's like a 30 second pause in the commentary.

The CoS commentary has some great stuff in it. The guys (Frak Paur, Michael Reaves, Greg) seem to still genuinely enjoy the show and have a lot of fun. One example is how they would keep goofing on Bodhe and what a coward he was, but then Greg throws in something like (paraphrasing) "but the real Bodhe might have been a great warrior and we're doing a disservice to him". They would also keep pointing out the classic Disney "fall to your death". Then you see .. some named character (I'm drawing a blank) get thrown into the side of a big rock by a gargoyle and (I think it's) Frank Paur makes the comment "well he fell sideways". Great stuff, really fun.

CoS is especially great with all the insight into Demona's character. The whole "What have I... what have *they* done" line. The use of "alone" for her password. The bit where she seems really happy working with MacBeth and her gargoyle group, but then turns on a dime when she overhears Bodhe's suggestion to get rid of the gargoyles. And, what I think was the most revealing bit, when she saves young MacBeth and Gruoch from going over the parapet (the first time, anyways) and lets hunter get away in the process. Really good stuff.

I don't mind, at all, the original (mistake) Vows ending. I think it adds a kind of surreal, tragic moment there.

Great DVD. Almost all my favorites are in this one set. I can't wait for Volumne 2!
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 10:14:45 am EST from 207.206.246.65

HARVESTER - Yes, I agree that Goliath and Demona certainly aren't getting together again, but what I meant was that there are a few other people in the fandom out there who aren't willing to accept it. Greg's even been asked by those people if Goliath and Demona will ever reunite, in a way that indicates that they want it to happen, and keeps on having to tell them that, no, Goliath's future is with Elisa, despite the obvious obstacles along the way.

BATTLE BEAST - Yes, I've wondered about that line of Owen's myself.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 8:23:21 am EST from 4.244.12.246

OK, speaking of DVD contests, the MGC special contest is now in voting, so EVERYONE head over and vote once for you favorites in artistic and creativity. :) Voting runs now through the 9th only!
kess - [< Go vote! Three days only!]
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 8:12:39 am EST from 68.41.249.79

STARLIONESS> YOPUR WELCOM! :)

Jurgan> No, they don't; not really... Uh, they do set up the episode... "This episode introduces coyote..."

"This is my favorite epsiode..."

"This episode is kinda like film noir..."

stuff like that. Greg "sorta" explains the episode... I can't really expalin it that well. But he doesn't give away big plot details.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Wed, Dec 7, 2005 12:09:16 am EST from 198.53.28.99

Jurgan> Hehe Few whipes brow off. Otherwise Ill be stuck with these 3 dvds. Disney sent them to us today. Got them Haha see link. I took a picture.

its very torchurous having these here and not being able to play with them :P Everyone must write and enter contest ;-)
shara
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 11:59:09 pm EST from 209.178.156.34

Sadly, I won't be able to buy my copy for a couple days, until I get some money in my account. However, I have been letting others know. I passed along the message to an anime-related message board, and at least one person said thanks, and presumably plans to buy it or already has. And a few weeks ago I was volunteering at an elementary school carnival. I went to the face-painting station and had three diagonal red lines painted on my face. One of the kids recognized it, and I told him about the DVD. I may end up giving him one for Christmas. I also went by fye at the mall. They had one copy, as well as a copy of Season One (which surprised me- perhaps they decided to reorder with the new release?). Unfortunately, it was buried behind Garfield and Free Willy, but as no one was watching I decided to do a little judicious rearranging of the shelves. >:) I also went by Wal-Mart and didn't see any copies, which surprised me, given that I bought three copies there on release date last year.

And if you want to buy multiple copies but are worried about others not being able to find it, you can buy at amazon, as they don't sell out. On the other hand, if a store sells out of a product on day one, there's a good chance they'll reorder more than they had before.

Shara: Your writing contest doesn't end until Christmas, right? Don't assume no one is going to enter- I plan to, but I'm not going to have time until after exams are over.

For those who already have the DVD, I've got a question about Greg's intros: do they have any spoilers in them? I'm watching the series with my girlfriend, who hasn't seen most of the series. She knows a few things about it, such as that Xanatos and Fox have a child, and that Demona eventually turns human during the day, but she hasn't seen most of the series. She has no idea about the Owen/Puck connection. We were watching "Awakening" with commentary, and sometime in part 3 when Owen was on screen, Greg said "we eventually find out that Owen is really-" Fortunately, I hit pause at just that moment, or one of the biggest surprises of the series could have been ruined. Of course commentary assumes that one has seen what is being commented on, but I was a bit disappointed that Greg didn't think to avoid spoilers for future episodes. Now I can easily just only watch the commentary alone, but I assume the intros play automatically before each episode. So do any of them give away future events (e.g., in "The Mirror," Greg says something like "Notice how Demona says Puck served 'the human,' referring to Xanatos, whom he served as Owen")? If so, I'm going to have to fast-forward through all of them.
Jurgan - [jurgan6@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 11:21:26 pm EST from 68.58.250.87

*munches cookies * thanks Battle Beast ;)..

about the Caption Contest..I agree , though everyone has different rules I guess.. I wonder if Justin has season one *thinks*
Starlioness - [starlion3@yahoo.com]
Bronx Pwns all :D
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 10:03:55 pm EST from 65.102.142.109

STARLIONESS> This may have gotten lost in the confusion, but WELCOME!!! Have a cookie! *Hands out a plate of offerings* Sit! Talk! Have fun!

THE DVD> GREG, AWESOME INTROS!!!

Man, I'm having a blast!!! Here are somethings I've noticed, watching the eps again.

1) Metamorphosis> - I love how, when Jackal looks at the explosion that we can see it in his eyes. Tre cool.

2) Metamorphosis> - How did Sevarius fake being electrocuted? I've always wondered about that.

3) Legion> - Did you ever notice that Desdemona looks like Storm (X-Men)? Especially the eyes and the black parts of the wings [like the early drawins of starm])

- Did you notice the look on Goliath's face as soon as he enter's Coldstone? Awesome look!

4) A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time> - Do you think Owen - being Puck - knows EXACTLY where the Gargoyles are? He says, "You know I can't tell you that." Meaning what? That he can't say because he's Owen??

Or can he not tell because he IS a human at the moment?

5) The Mirror> - Did you notice the sinister little smile Puck has on his face everytime he makes magic? (Especially when it's not what they wanted to happen.)

- What is Goliath thinking at the exact moment when he is flying with Elisa? Man, Hormones must be raging! :P

Well that's as far as I've go right now...
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 9:43:20 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Animation error or not, I'm just happy to have it on DVD. I thought it was neat to see that ending again. Had a nostalgic feeling to it.
Vertigo1 - [md2389@gmail.com]
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (Mythbusters)
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 9:20:05 pm EST from 164.58.72.226

Purplegoldfish> Haha you can still win a dvd with our contest, disney let us run it to the 25th,

http://www.ka-blamo.com/gargs/dvd.html
Shara - [Jeanie54_2000@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:56:15 pm EST from 209.178.156.178

umm...Does anyone else think the caption contest winner at Ultimate Disney is not funny?? And the annoying thing is this guy doesn't even know the characters' names! He calls Broadway "the big blue guy" and lex "the little green guy" heh. Come on, they could have done better than that.
Link: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/contest/
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:53:05 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

Spen> Chapter breaks would have allowed you to hit the next button on your remote and skip ahead in whatever episode you were watching. Instead, if you hit the next button, you'll go to the next episode. At least we have that. Personally, I don't like watching ending credits for each and every episode.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:52:25 pm EST from 63.135.43.174

Hey Guys, I'm new here but I wanted to say that I'm super excited about the DVD I seriously didn't expect it to happen. 1st season o.k. but Season 2 floored me. I haven't gotten mine in yet. but I'm hoping it'll ship by the end of the week. until then I'll have the He-man and She-ra Christmas special to tie me over..

also, what's the lowest price available for the DVD? the lowest I've seen is $31.99 at a Circuit city..

*waves at D.Tania :)*
Starlioness - [starlion3@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:47:05 pm EST from 65.102.142.109

Oh, and Greg: Are the episodes uncut? I just noticed that the DVD has a Y-7 Rating, as opposed to the first season, which was NR.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:38:09 pm EST from 69.174.1.148

Patrick: Which ones were you missing? The two Genesis albums I don't have that I'm interested in buying are "Trick of the Tail" and "Abacab." I'm tempted to give "Calling All Stations" another listen due to an Amazon.com review that raised an excellent point: everyone thought the band was finished back in 1975 and they did some great stuff after Peter Gabriel left (though Collins needed some convincing to take over the duties of lead vocalist). This reviewer felt that Genesis was a band whose success does not rest solely on one person, and so people didn't really give "Calling All Stations" a fair shot, simply because it was missing Phil Collins. Besides, I've always considered Banks to be one of the band's most talented members. ( ;

I'm still tempted to buy the Platinum Collection, because as I said in the TGS CR, I'd like to hear how some of the remasters sound (even on the CDs I have, I felt there were still some mixing issues on a lot of the 70s stuff). Besides, it's good to finally see a real Genesis compilation, one that takes the band's entire history into account.

Incidentally, did you happen to remember what sales ranking the DVD had when you bought yours? Has anyone been tracking?


Todd: I doubt there will ever really be anything between Goliath and Demona again. If what little I know about the plans for Gargoyles 2198 were any indication, Demona still hates humans 200 years in the future.

And I think the ending to "Vows" that I have on my tape is more appropriate symbolism than what we saw in the original airing. Sadly, I can't comment too much on anything else, since I have to wait about a week for my DVD to arrive.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"There is water at the bottom of the ocean." -David Byrne.
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:31:13 pm EST from 69.174.1.148

Well, just like last year, wal-mart is the only store in the area with the DVD, but unlike last year, they actually have more than one copy. (I myself couldn't get the DVD at the store, but I ordered it on Amazon, and will be getting my copy in 5-9 buisness days).

They had the original ending of "Vows"? What the frell happened that made them use that one?

Um, what exactly do you all mean about chapter breaks?
Spen
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:06:47 pm EST from 207.177.11.252

is anyone going to be in the L.A area around 27-29 January 2006

There is a small anime con called anime L.A
Click Link for more info.

We are trying to get some gargoyle fans together to help promote the DVD, Gathering and comic. Bascily passing out free stuff to the fans and promoting gargoyles. Getting the word out. Cosplayers are a plus.
They are going to give us a free booth since the gathering is a non profit con.

Let me know if your interested.
Shara - [Jeanie54_2000@yahoo.com]
http://www.animelosangeles.org/
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 7:42:54 pm EST from 209.178.156.178

DPH - I honestly don't know. I can't even remember now at what point I stopped clearing questions, and since I've lost my link to the page that I used for clearing questions, I can't find out.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 6:49:28 pm EST from 4.245.16.66

Just placed my order on Amazon.com for two copies of the DVD - one to watch, and one to keep sealed in my collection. And then I went crazy picking up some of the remaining Phil Collins and Genesis CDs that I need to complete my music collection. Merry Christmas to me! :)

25 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2006 before the rates increase.
Patrick
"Puck is many things, but never a poor guest!" - Puck, "The Mirror"
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 6:01:55 pm EST from 66.72.193.104

Vows> I spoke to Greg at Comic Con to see if he had had any clue if the original ending to Vows would wind up as an extra on the DVD set. He told me it was very unlikely as they hadn't asked him to do any kind of introduction to explain the reason for the different endings. He also told me he wasn't even sure if Disney still had the original ending anywhere for them to include it. So, yeah, Greg didn't have any idea about the ending mixup.
IRC Goliath - [goliath1 [at] pacbell [dot] net]
"Every time I do it makes me laugh"
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 5:34:30 pm EST from 209.234.142.80

Man, it's almost 4:30pm eastern time and we're only at #230 on the Amazon.com sales rankings. Oh well.

*puts in his order*

As far as Canadian stores go, the cheapest I've seen it so far is $40 at Toys R Us. Was at the mall today doing some Xmas shopping, so I checked. Other prices for Canadian buyers include...

$44.79 at Amazon.ca
$49.99 at HMV
$42.83 at Wal-Mart
$43.00 at Future Shop (though they're tricky. They had it listed for $41.79 on their website last night and they're supposed to match their website's prices...but I guess that was a pre-order deal, 'cause it was changed this morning)

Sunrise, The Real Canadian Superstore, and one of the two Zellers I phoned didn't have them in (the one that did, the lady couldn't tell me the price 'cause she was too busy).

A lot of the places I phoned only had one copy.
Kris - [plekopleko@hotmail.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 4:24:01 pm EST from 69.17.169.178

It's possible BVHE fixes this error if they do a second run on the DVD. It could also be that come Season 2, Volume 2 there's a little blurb on there that talks about the incorrect ending and then presents the corrected version. Maybe an explanation given by Greg explaining the thing and then the last 5 minutes of the episode are shown.. unless there's room to squeeze the whole episode on the Vol. 2 release.

I kind of like the idea that some of the old animation mistakes seen only on the first run might be included. It brings back memories of the mailing list days when the episode aired for the first time and it started a bit of a discussion.

Are the mailing list archives anywhere? That'd be a nice thing to preserve. Scott Mecure might know. Does anyone else?
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 3:48:04 pm EST from 207.206.239.227

Todd - Have any of the questions posted in Ask Greg on/after Thu, October 28, 2004 been cleared?
dph
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 3:19:22 pm EST from 161.31.67.89

Todd> Does the new ending really require keeping the taped version? I mean, wouldn't an image of the correct scene be enough? I'm asking because I've never seen the incorrect ending, so I don't know how bad it was...

That stinks about the no chapter breaks, but I don't believe the first season had any either....
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 2:34:57 pm EST from 205.244.111.153

My fiance called me at work and he found me a copy at Suncoast! Yay!

I ordered three copies on Amazon for 3 different friends, one of whom needed a copy of Season One as well. (Amazon has a deal if you order both, naturally.) So I'm contributing to the Amazon effort too, despite my impatience.

Vows> I sincerely doubt that Greg Weisman knew that the original incorrect ending was going to be on the DVD. I'm sure he would have said something had he known, either to the people at BVHE or to us on the site. It's too bad and I would suggest anyone who has the episode on tape with the correct ending save it. (Ask me why I still have my VHS copy of "Beauty and the Beast" sometime.) But it is an honest mistake and a pretty small one compared to the omission of the pilot five-parters on DuckTales and Rescue Rangers.
Demonskrye
I got mine!
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 2:07:03 pm EST from 67.100.23.24

Going to get my copy on my way home from campus. :)

Since those of you are on about review posting, why don't you post reviews on sites OTHER than amazon? Best Buy.com supports it as well, yet there are no reviews there.
Vertigo1 - [md2389@gmail.com]
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (Mythbusters)
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:51:55 pm EST from 198.146.139.145

oops, a bit late on that news....
Wingless
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:15:59 pm EST from 70.27.173.206

OMG! its the original ending to "Vows!"
Wingless
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:12:16 pm EST from 70.27.173.206

Just got myself a copy of Gargs Season 2, Vol 1. but it was a challange. Went to Future Shop first - the place that's supposed to have it first and cheapest. Of course they had none. Went next doore to Best Buy(who owns Future shop, BTW, and they they had it *sighs with relief*. I talked it up with the salesperson and he did remember the show-which is a good thing. Found out they hadn't put it out on the shelf yet-and they had exactly 3 copies! I pointed out they should have more copies-and have it out front.

Also ordered a copy from Amazon too. enjoying "Leader of the Pack right now-woo wwoo!

I must say the menus on Season one were a lot nicer - but hey, it's the episodes I wanted. *hugs the DVDS*
Wingless
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:08:59 pm EST from 70.27.173.206

Matt-two Hudson's?? I remember the Bronx, but two Hudsons? Is that in the same scene with Bronx? I'll have to watch it again.
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:47:18 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

wow, the old ending to vows, that's weird. This is a good thing and a bad thing for me...good because I've never seen it, bad because it obviously makes no sense. But at least there doesn't seem to be any other mistakes. I wonder if Greg Weisman knows about it?

wow! 10 copies Gorebash! I would like to buy another one, but I have no idea what to do with it. I don't know anyone else who likes the show.

Arghhh! I want it NOW!! ;)
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:43:39 pm EST from 152.163.100.204

Vows ending> i don't love the fact that the old one is on there, but i must admit that after hearing about it for ten years i'm eager to actually see it, having missed the original airing.
lets not forget that animation errors do happen and many were never corrected (think about the infamous two Hudsons and a Bronx scene in Kingdom) obviously this is a bigger animation error, but as long as dialogue has not been changed, i think i can learn to live with it.

nice to see the room has (finally) picked up.
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:41:50 pm EST from 68.114.195.212

Haha well since no ones entered our writitng contest yet ill end up with 3 dvds ;-)

Just a random thought or question.
If we go to all the stores and buy up say 10 copies. What about fans of the show who are not part of the online fandom. How are they going to get a copy or spred the word if every store they go into is out of it?
Shara - [Jeanie54_2000@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:39:49 pm EST from 209.178.156.178

BISHANSKY - Yes, it's an error, but as long as there are people out there who nurse the hope of Goliath and Demona getting back together, there'll be people who consider it beautiful.

It turns out that my local Blockbuster's doesn't have the DVD and that Blockbuster's no longer does special orders, so I had to order mine from Amazon.com instead. Not the same as walking back home with a new copy in my hand, but at least I'll get it.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:30:27 pm EST from 4.245.19.71

Sorry, missed the question the first time.

No, sorry. No chapter breaks.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:21:04 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

Greg Bishansky: "Symbolism" is such an abstract thing. And just because it's an animation error doesn't make it any less beautiful. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. ;)

And you didn't answer my question. Does the DVD set have chapter breaks in the episodes? Please say yes. :P
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:07:02 pm EST from 172.137.24.183

Just finished putting in my order for two copies of Season 2. I was going to go buy it at the store, but since I live in the boonies and wouldn't be able to watch it right away, this works a whole lot better. Now I can put my attention on studying for exams. :D
BrooksBabe
"Eh, educational stuff. Me, I'd rather watch things explode." --Rattrap
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 11:46:46 am EST from 64.228.49.26

It's at 220 now. Give it time.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 11:27:08 am EST from 65.33.202.237

Howdy all - been a while since I've been here.

I grabbed a few copies of the DVD at Wal-Mart last night and placed a few orders on Amazon this morning. I'm a bit concerned about the sale of this DVD right now; our beloved season 1 DVD was #164 on Amazon's DVD sales ranking around this time on its opening day, but the season 2 set right now is at #286.

Here's hoping that improves, or that the retail sales will be much better.
Alex Garg
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 10:44:52 am EST from 216.145.68.246

Battle Beast> Sorry, that was my bad attempt at a joke. Moving on...
StarCreator
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 10:27:30 am EST from 69.244.75.90

DVD should be in stores today. They ship early so they're available on Tuesday.

Your best chance is to find a Best Buy. They seem to have DVDs out on time fairly consistently.

Wal-Marts (at least around where I live) are notoriously slow and you might not see the DVD on shelves until Friday or Saturday.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 10:15:16 am EST from 207.206.245.107

Does anyone know if these DVD's will actually be on sale and available in store today? Or is it more of an online distribution first. I live in the Philly are and if anyone knows of where they are selling them in a reasonalbe driving distance please lemme know because i really would rather not wait for them to come in the mail. :-)
David - [spooky731860@yahoo.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 10:11:25 am EST from 71.225.51.214

No, Greg didn't mention anything about the ending in the intro for "Vows". He talked about Xanatos getting married and the time travel.

D Taina> What do you mean "symbolism"... the correct ending had symbolism. The "wrong" ending was a great big animation error. Goliath and Demona embracing and that image fading into nothing is much more symbolic of the end of a relationship than their embrace being frozen on a clock.

GORE> Well, so far, they've used the correct versions of other episodes. the mouth on Xanatos's armor doesn't move in CoS Part 4 (THANK GODS!!!!!!!)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 9:48:46 am EST from 65.33.202.237

Just ordered 10 off Amazon.

It'll be interesting. If they've got the old Vows ending, I wonder if any other first-run versions of epsodes are in there that might have slight continuity issues that were fixed by the time the episode ran a second time. I think Greg mentioned that those second-round (fixed) episodes would be what went on the DVD.

Kind of interesting.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 9:43:37 am EST from 207.206.245.107

Just placed my order on amazon. I got a gift for my brother while I was at it, so I can finally check someone off my list. At the moment, the DVD's Sales rank is 294.

And they used the original ending to "Vows"? Did Greg say anything in the episode intro?
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Looking behind me, the water turns icy blue. The lights are dimmed, and once again the stage is set for you."
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 9:03:17 am EST from 69.174.1.148

Well, i bought one copy off Amzon, and another I will buy at Future Shop this afternoon. (If mastercard says OK!)

This may sound dumb, but what's a PX???

StarCreator> That's 'infamy,' and Greg was reffering to FDR's meesage to you Americans on December 7th, 1941. (Pearle Harbor attack). "A day that will live in infamy..."
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 8:39:22 am EST from 198.53.28.99

After I get off work today, I'll look in the PX on base to see if they have Gargoyles season two. The good thing about being in the miltary is that you can buy things on base tax free:)
kjay - [tigonesskay@netzero.net]
I got a ten dollar coupon in the mail from best buy...Gargoyles DVD here I come!
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 7:38:24 am EST from 69.112.127.60

They used the original ending for "Vows"! Yow! We'd probably better hang on to our old tapes for a while longer (not that that's reason enough not to buy the DVD, of course).

So today's the big day. I hope that I can buy a copy at the local Blockbuster's today (there's one within walking distance of my apartment), but if they don't have one out on the shelves, I can still ask them to order one for me.

Today's also St. Nicholas's Day, which prompts me to hope that Greg will get to tell that story about Santa Claus in the upcoming comic (particularly since I'm still curious as to how you can fit the guy into a serious drama-adventure series like "Gargoyles" - Santa still strikes me as being more likely to show up in "Duck Tales" or "Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers").
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 7:15:27 am EST from 4.244.12.102

Sorry for the double-post. Just noticed something about the tracking info Amazon gave me:

"Your item was accepted at 2:55 pm on December 05, 2005 in LEXINGTON, KY 40511. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later."

That's an omen if I ever saw one.
StarCreator
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 4:13:48 am EST from 69.244.75.90

Just noticed something about Greg W.'s post:

"December 6th, 2005 is a day that will live in famy!"

Okay... what's famy and why is Tuesday living in it? o.O

(My copy is shipped, and I should get it this week. I likely won't be able to watch it until next week however, since it's almost exam time.)
StarCreator
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 3:58:21 am EST from 69.244.75.90

Greg Bishansky: Well, the original ending works great if you think of it as being symbolical. Of course, the correct ending is great, too, but it doesn't reach me as much as the original for some reason.

So, can you tell us if they included chapter breaks? Please say they did!
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 2:54:48 am EST from 172.158.39.167

Theres an answer with a little more detail here:

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2844
Vertigo1 - [md2389@gmail.com]
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (Mythbusters)
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:31:40 am EST from 164.58.72.226

D. Taina> No. It is not cool. I find it very annoying. But everything else so far is great.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:29:45 am EST from 65.33.202.237

Greg Bishansky: You mean they used the one of Goliath and Demona embracing at the Clock Tower? Wow! That is so cool!

I hope they don't end up having to send replacement discs or something...

Well, everyone, today's the day! Don't forget to buy the DVD on Amazon! Remember, we've got to make it to the Top 100! Last time I checked, we were at #370. We can do it!
D. Taina
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:11:07 am EST from 172.158.39.167

"Vows" had two endings. The info on that is here...

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/faq.php?s=faq16#12
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 1:00:04 am EST from 65.33.202.237

Err, wrong ending? Could you elaborate?
StarCreator
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:53:16 am EST from 69.244.75.90

Sorry for the Double Post.

Okay, so in "The Gathering of the Cast and Crew", Jeff Bennett does a short conversation between Brooklyn, Owen and the Magus.

And in the introduction for CITY OF STONE:

"Phoebe has the blonde hair, Selene the black hair, and Luna the silver hair... please keep them straight."

I guess Greg is really sick of being asked who's who ;)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 6, 2005 12:07:22 am EST from 65.33.202.237

Holy crap, they used the wrong ending for "Vows"!
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 11:56:52 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

Greg: heh, Wal-Mart did the same thing with Season 1 here. :)

Just to make things easier for fans that can't buy online (apologies in advance for horizontal scrolling):

http://entertainment.circuitcity.com/Movies/BoxSet.aspx?set_id=S027720&prodid=WD4134903DVD - $34.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7542554&type=product&id=1482256 - $35.99

Wal-Mart.com and CompUSA.com do not list it. I'll come back with a report tomorrow when I get home....with my copy. :D
Vertigo1 - [md2389@gmail.com]
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (Mythbusters)
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 10:41:57 pm EST from 164.58.72.226

Greg, you lucky Bas****

Todd> Keep your fingers crossed about the next DVD. "X"
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 9:02:55 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

Guess what my local Best Buy put on the shelf a little early.

::Watching right now::

;)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 8:54:58 pm EST from 65.33.202.237

Appropriately enough (since "City of Stone" is the episode - well, multi-parter - on tomorrow's DVD that has the commentary on it), Greg answered a question of mine today about "City of Stone" involving Duncan and Maol Chalvim, and confirmed (or helped to confirm) a suspicion of mine that Duncan might have hurried up the end of Maol Chalvim's reign. It's one that I find amusingly appropriate (in a black comedy way), since the evidence is that Maol Chalvim had shared with Duncan his attitude of "Get rid of anyone in your way, with utter ruthlessness" - and evidently taught him too well - kind of like Xanatos with Thailog in "Double Jeopardy". (The spooky part of it is that, a few years ago, I came across a book entitled "Royal Scotland" about various past Scottish kings and queens, which mentioned that, in actual history, Maol Chalvim died at a place called Hunter's Hill.)

On Friday, the movie version of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" will be coming out. It's reported to open with the Blitz striking London (the cause of the Pevensies being sent away to the Professor's country house and discovering that wardrobe there); I wonder how many "Gargoyles" fans in the audience will catch themselves subconsciously searching for Goliath and Griff when the bombers strike. :) (Pity that "M.I.A." isn't on the DVD coming out tomorrow - we'll have to wait another year for that one.)
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 8:19:50 pm EST from 4.244.12.109

Vertigo> Great one!@ Made my day! ^_^

I hope to be buyinhg a set off amazon tomorrow... Woo hoo!!! Marathon on tuesday night!

(Stupid work that pays for the set... I would be watching it tomorrow morning...)
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 7:43:14 pm EST from 198.53.28.99

While I was visiting the high-school I attended, I decided to show a friend of mine this site. Lo and behold, its blocked! I'll let the screenshot tell the rest of the story. Needless to say, I found it VERY amusing. :P

http://www.bakercountyonline.com/md-2389/s8.jpg (copy and paste, or click my name)
Vertigo1 - [md2389@gmail.com]
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (Mythbusters)
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 6:06:44 pm EST from 164.58.72.226

December 6th, 2005 is a day that will live in famy!

VOLUME ONE of the SECOND SEASON of GARGOYLES is available on DVD. If you're buying a copy, particularly if you plan to buy from AMAZON.COM, tomorrow is a GREAT DAY to make your purchase! The more sales we can get on DAY ONE, the better. It's like free marketing!!!

And even if you don't have the money... PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!

This three disk set includes 26 uncut episodes...

LEADER OF THE PACK
METAMORPHOSIS
LEGION
A LIGHTHOUSE IN THE SEA OF TIME
THE MIRROR
SILVER FALCON
EYE OF THE BEHOLDER
VOWS
CITY OF STONE, PART ONE*
CITY OF STONE, PART TWO*
CITY OF STONE, PART THREE*
CITY OF STONE, PART FOUR*
HIGH NOON
OUTFOXED
REVELATIONS
DOUBLE JEOPARDY
UPGRADE
PROTECTION
THE CAGE
THE PRICE
AVALON, PART ONE
AVALON, PART TWO
AVALON, PART THREE
SHADOWS OF THE PAST
HERITAGE
KINGDOM

These episodes introduce Angela and the Avalon Clan, Thailog, Puck, Halcyon Renard, the Uprgraded Pack and the Illuminati. Depth and history are added to Xanatos, Fox, Demona and Macbeth. There's action, comedy, romance, history, Shakespeare and more...

The disks include a commentary track by myself, Frank Paur and Michael Reaves on all four parts of City of Stone. Plus a mini-documentary about making Season Two that includes myself, Frank, Michael, Thom "Lexington" Adcox, Jeff "Brooklyn" Bennett, Bill "Broadway" Faggerbakke, Brigitte "Angela" Bako and Edward "Hudson" Asner. AND I introduce every episode, hopefully without too much embarrassment!

So buy a set! Give it as a holiday gift to friends and loved ones! And SPREAD THE WORD!!!!

Thanks,
Greg Weisman
Greg Weisman
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 5:02:51 pm EST from 66.245.233.54

Looks like Amazon.com is officially preparing the DVDs for shipment - my order is now in "Shipping soon" status and can't be changed. :3
StarCreator
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:34:49 pm EST from 69.244.75.90

Thanks, Patrick. That's certainly a more appropriate reference, in light to "City of Stone" being one of the leading episodes in the upcoming DVD.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 7:50:47 am EST from 4.244.12.44

Sorry, Todd, but Demona refused to get a perm and wear the Annie dress again. But don't worry, I've got another "tomorrow" reference...

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

-- Macbeth

1 day left until Gargoyles Season 2, Volume 1 comes to DVD.
26 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2006 before the rates increase.
Patrick
"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." - Mark Twain
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 7:08:36 am EST from 70.229.209.37

Tenth.
Spen
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 5:26:09 am EST from 207.177.11.252

9TH!


damn, you guys are quicker this week...
matt - [ewoks11@hotmail.com]
"To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." -Henry David Thoreau
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 1:59:11 am EST from 68.114.195.212

8th.

Soon it'll be time to start calling around to the stores to see how their prices stack up against Amazon.ca's...
Kris - [plekopleko@hotmail.com]
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 1:54:28 am EST from 69.17.169.178

*removes chocolate from a spot*

7th in the name of chocolate haters everywhere!!
dph
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 1:03:35 am EST from 63.232.250.150

Uhhh... Wingless???

... ... ... ...

What the heck happened? within 40 minutes all heck broke loose! I was right that it won't be a slow week!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:55:56 am EST from 198.53.28.99

Sixth! Wow, first time in the First Ten.
Jon - [jdobres@gmail.com]
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:46:49 am EST from 24.218.216.33

fifth
oneuke
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:42:18 am EST from 69.3.213.90

*Showers the room in christmas chocolate*
4th!
Chameleongirl
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:27:27 am EST from 202.87.162.31

I'm 3rd I guess.
kjay - [tigonesskay@netzero.net]
Guard duty for 4 hours really sucks....
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:25:10 am EST from 69.112.127.60

*Curls up beside Battle Beast*
Second
Wingless
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:10:44 am EST from 70.27.173.206

Wow. I never thought I'd be first this week. Or is this a bad thing? Is it going to be a slow week???

Wait a minute. Seriously, I just remembered that the DVD comes out this tueday, so scratch everything I just said...
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:07:06 am EST from 198.53.28.99

Wow! 1st!!!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.
posted @ Mon, Dec 5, 2005 12:06:05 am EST from 198.53.28.99