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Comments for the week ending December 7, 2009

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Phoenician > There's only 2 utilities spots, but I had totally forgotten about Pack Media Studios, so your idea is still very much a viable option to keep in mind. This is why I'm recruiting you guys, cause you'll come up with stuff I will totally miss!

The idea of turning Free Parking into Central Park keeps nagging at me...thoughts? As far as I know, the space serves no purpose, other than maybe the possibility of a chance card advancing you there.

I have absolutely NO idea what to do about the 2 tax spots. I'd like to keep their purpose at least (which is to take money from you).

I'm off from work most of the week, so I think I'm going to work on the property cards. Since I'm keeping the prices the same, I can do everything but the space name, which can easily be edited in later. It will certainly give me something to do, since I spent HOURS today making adjustments to the board to make all the spaces as even as possible. I actually got ahold of the Monopoly board's font as well.

Andrea - [SailorV77 at yahoo dot com]

I was looking at the monopoly thing and here is my idea for the spaces: Gargoyle Clans The first spot is the clan name and the following spots are the leaders and or representative of the clans. I also added the names of their protectorates/homes on some clans.

Mediterranean Baltic
Xanadu Clan Fu-Dog

The following spots are for the clans that currently have no information available.
Oriental Vermont Connecticut
Pukhan New Olympian Loch Ness

Back to the regular format
St. Charles States Virginia
Mayan Clan Zafiro Pyramid
St. James Tennessee New York
Ishimura Clan Kai Katana (Fitting
since she moves to
New York eventually.)
Kentucky Indiana Illinois
Avalon Clan Gabriel Boudicca (Or Ophelia)
Atlantic Ventnor Marvin Gardens
London Clan Una Knights Spur
Pacific North Carolina Pennsylvania
Labyrinth Clan Talon Delilah
Boardwalk Park Place
Manhattan Clan Wyvern Castle (Goliath should be a gamepiece)

Railroads: Items of Magic
Phoenix Gate, Eye of Odin, Grimorum, Praying Gargoyle
But the idea Phoenician posted was cool too.

Thats a game that I would pay a pretty penny for.


My husband says Go should be the Clocktower or Castle Wyvern. The Jail should be Go To The Rookery and The Rookery, and Free Parking might be Go To The Movies. Those are his suggestions:)
Jade Griffin - [jade_griffin at hotmail dot com]
"Food, food, FOOD!!" - Jade Griffin, on many occasions

I haven't played Monopoly in years. I have the dinosaur version but not an original on me. Are the four corners like Start/Go, Jail, Free Parking, etc? I'm sure they can easily be customized. Especially the Jail, which is the precinct where Elisa works. Which is it again? I dunno about the Start/Go one. I keep thinking of Glide for some reason but it's kinda lame, too. Free Parking? Uh... I am such a blank today. Broadway Goes To Hollywood type of thing? Cash in stocks on Xanatos Enterprises? *shrug* It should be easy to customize. I'm just kinda spacey right now. I think it's a great idea:)
Jade Griffin - [jade_griffin at hotmail dot com]
"Food, food, FOOD!!" - Jade Griffin, on many occasions

It would be easy to continue after "Angels in the Night". However, it would probably involve anime-esque plot holes you can drive a truck through and no one wants that.

I'm satisfied with the metaverse we have now.

Dasrik - [vm_postitnotes at yahoo dot com]
You can watch the world devoured in its pain, strange...

I'm not the biggest monopoly player, but I think if you did a Xanatos Enterprises-theme on the board, it should be where they railroads normally are as opposed to Utilities.

I mean . . . Scarab Corporation, Gen-U-Tech Systems, Pack Media Studios, & Xanatos Construction -- heh, I'd get a kick trying to find a way to own all that.

But then again, its been ages since I've seen a Monopoly Board game . . . are there four spaces for Utilities as well? If so, then I guess it doesn't matter . . . but from I remember I think its Electric and Gas/Water-something-or-other . . .

"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Oh, undecisive mind, how you annoy me so....

I keep changing my darn mind on the Monopoly front. My board folds in 6ths, and it's going to be hella difficult to post my new board on top of it, so I'm going back and using the old one from the crappy make-your-own kit instead, since that's in 4ths. I'll have to get someone to make me a new box, but that's alright, maybe I can talk my my dad into it.

I have the bare skeleton of the board done now, and man was that annoying. I did scans of the board, which did come out nice, but after I changed my mind and found out the scans all didn't come out perfectly straight (and thus a PITA to align), I ended up just using a render online, stretching it to scale, and tracing straight lines over it on a new layer.

The next step is to figure out what's going on what space, and this is where I will need some assistance. Even though this is going to be an exclusive copy, I want this to appeal to as many fans as possible in the event that I can showcase (and possibly auction) it off one day. I have some ideas, but nothing really etched in stone yet (no pun intended).

For example, I've been looking at the specialized versions of the game, and most of them seem to keep the 4 corner spaces as the original. Should I keep it that way, or customize them? Either way, my personal idea is to keep GO, since it doesn't feel like a real Monopoly game without it.

Anyway, I have some thoughts about making the Utilities into companies Xanatos owns (to keep a connecting theme), and maybe making the Railroads locations of some of the Gargoyles clans. Any positive/negative feedback? This is probably going to be the hardest part, since everything else will fall into place depending on what the final layout is like.

The prices are going to be the same, as will be the money, and the title, chance and community chest cards are only going to be slightly modified based on the space name changes. I still want this to feel like a Monopoly game!

Andrea - [SailorV77 at yahoo dot com]

For fans of Bill Fagerbakke, The seldom seen Christmas special - "The Legend of Frosty the Snowman" will be aired in Canada on YTV on Tuesday, December 8, at 7pm EST(He's the voice of Frosty. This is the 4th of the Frosty animated specials (The third with John Goodman was abislmal. This one actually has some heart to it. Worth a look if you liked the first 2 Classic Frostys.

JURGAN - Your observation reminded me of my chief reason (given over the years) over why any continuation of "Gargoyles" would *have* to ignore "Angels in the Night" (even if it didn't ignore the rest of the Goliath Chronicles); "Angels in the Night" had too much of a close-ended feel to it of "The gargoyles have been accepted at last, Castaway and his followers have been discredited and are headed for prison, everyone lives happily ever after". It didn't open new doors at the same time that it closed old ones. "Re-Awakening", "Hunter's Moon", and "Phoenix" all ended with the possibility of more adventures, which makes them good open-ended stories.

ALGERNON - Thanks for the link. I hadn't known about that little story (or if I had, I'd forgotten about it).

Todd Jensen

Demonskrye: You're right that Gargoyles doesn't seem to be building towards a clear ending, but that's the point. I've believed for a while that one of the big themes of Gargoyles is that nothing ever ends. There are always more stories to tell. Greg's referenced Watchmen a few times, and I think that's something he took from it- there are always more stories to tell. That's why every season ends with "open-ended closure." You can and should wrap-up some stories over time, and so each season has its own climax, but in real life every ending leads to a new beginning. I wouldn't want it any other way.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]
"In the end? Nothing ever ends, Adrian. Nothing." -Dr. Manhattan, Watchmen

TODD> Yep, though it's only about 800 words long. See for yourself...


Never make fun of 80s cartoons. 80s cartoons are no laughing matter. 80s cartoons are more serious then AIDS.

Rowling wrote an on-line prequel?
Todd Jensen

GREG B> Well that depends on whether you count stuff like "The Tales of Beedle the Bard" and the online prequel short story Rowling wrote last year.
Never make fun of 80s cartoons. 80s cartoons are no laughing matter. 80s cartoons are more serious then AIDS.

H.I> You are aware that the final "Harry Potter" novel came out more than two years ago now, right?
Greg Bishansky

But it doesn't seem like Gargoyles is continuing either though i pray it does really!

well the harry potter is still being written if not now or i don't know! but where did greg say he's not going to cover all of it?

Greg says in a recent Ask Greg response that there is no way he will be able to cover all of Brooklyn's forty years of traveling through time within his lifetime. I don't have a problem with this idea. It's fully possible that there are parts of Brooklyn's journey that are more or less important and interesting than others. The adventures that lead to Fu-Dog and Katana joining him are obviously going to have to be told at some point. Something like Brooklyn being present for the Humility Spell being cast may take a little less priority. Much as I would like to see it and it would explain that aspect of gargoyles to readers who don't already know about it [SPOILER] better than Brooklyn just mentioning it [/SPOILER], I doubt it's important enough to be told before a story about Nasville's hatching or something.

But this does kind of bring up the question that I've been mulling over for quite a while: Are there always going to be Gargoyles stories that we never get to see? Even if we got a new weekday TV series, the main storyline is supposed to cover everything up to 2198, right? Even if the plot starts jumping forward in time more and not progressing in roughly real time or slower, that's a lot of material to cover. I don't care about knowing what Goliath had for breakfast every night, but I do kind of wonder if I'm always going to be missing something no matter what happens. Don't get me wrong; I'm grateful for anything we do get. But if you start following a series of books or movies, usually their building to some kind of ending. Movie series are frequently trilogies. If you started reading the Harry Potter books, you knew there was a plan to end the series and if you start now, you know exactly how many books you're committing to. But with Gargoyles it feels like it just keeps going and going and going. Which is good in some ways, but it also means there's never really and endgame where you can feel like you've got everything the property has to offer you.

Demonskrye - [<---"George and A dot J dot " at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Guardian> In one dream, I once cut the head off another Immortal (a guy) who followed me into the women's bathroom at school. When someone complained in shock at my violence, I believe I said in an irate tone as to one who doesn't get it: "There can be only one!" Roflmao
Jade Griffin - [jade_griffin at hotmail dot com]
"Food, food, FOOD!!" - Jade Griffin, on many occasions

Another possibility for Brooklyn's TimeDancer adventures: Brooklyn visiting various moments in New York's past (maybe all the way back to when it was New Amsterdam under Dutch rule - it'd be kind of fun to see Brooklyn having a run-in with Peter Stuyvesant - or during the American Revolution when Washington and Howe were clashing near the city in the late summer of 1776). Since New York is the gargoyles' new home, it would be neat to see some of its history explored in "Gargoyles", as well as that of their original homeland of Scotland.
Todd Jensen

Does anyone know Tina Y? she posted something on ask greg, and she says she's a real canmore (i believe her) Did she come to any of the Gatherings? does she post here sometime or was that the only time? Does anyone know? Also What is the stroy of hippolyta? By the way i have an idea for a Gargoyles Ride in Walt Disney World at Disney MGM Studios.

Todd> Thanks for telling meaboutthat story iof hippolyta. I never knew about that!
battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

We'll probably get the "Dark Ages" spin-off next (if we get more graphic novels, and they include the spin-offs as well as the main series), since Greg had planned to make that one next, saying that there was a story in it that he felt the need to tell. I wonder whether that would have been the beginning of the alliance between Hudson and Prince Malcolm in 971 (the logical beginning for "Dark Ages" - and following up immediately upon "Once Upon a Time There Were Three Brothers"), or a story set later in the period (maybe the Hyppolyta story, which we got a glimpse of at "Ask Greg" in the form of the little fic where Goliath's telling Elisa about her - which did not include a single name anywhere, and yet left you with no doubt as to which character was which).
Todd Jensen

Greg> Yah, Demona has an agenda. It's allab out her!

Todd> you creativity demon: I actually wrote a fan fic (terrible as it wsa) where boudiccah came to live with the manhattan clan, and, with bronx, escaped one night causing mass havoc all over n.y., and the triop had to deal with their antics. And atone point, theyd even knocked over a hotdogcart and litterally became the 'bull ina china shop!'

battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what the Ishimura Clan in particular were up to during WW2. And of course their take on certain more taboo parts of bushido would be interesting as well.

And keep in mind that there may be some clans that died out shortly before 1996. We only know of the clans that exist in 1996, that doesn't mean there were not more clans alive in 1940.

Matt - [St Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" -Sevarius, 'Louse'

Some interesting Spidey stuff. IGN's season 2 review: http://tv.ign.com/articles/105/1051047p1.html KTLA footage of season 2 production: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1YpUdoAtsI (found by Greg B)
Landon Thomas - [<- Gargoyles News Twitter Feed]

Todd> If what we end up with for a continuation of "Gargoyles" is graphic novels, which seems the most likely outcome right now, I'm guessing that it's more likely we'll get either just the main series or the main series and a rotating slate of spin-offs like the comic would have had if it had continued, rather than the main series and one spin-off but not the others. So maybe we'll get and arc of "Pendragon" first and if that sells well we'll get an arc of "TimeDancer" and if that sells we'll get an arc of "Dark Ages" and so on. That's what seems most likely to me, anyways. So we'll probably either see stories told in the most appropriate spin-off or folded into the storyline of the main series.

Patrick> I agree that it's highly unlikely that most gargoyle clans would have participated in WWII. They Mayan Clan in particular are based in a pretty remote location and may not have ever been aware of the cross-continental conflict. Since most of the surviving clans have survived by living in remote and isolated locations and keeping to themselves, it seems unlikely than a whole clan would involve itself in a human conflict unless their home was under very direct threat. I imagine the London Clan, the clan that we know was in close proximity to some events of WWII, ended up using Griff's disappearance to further justify their policy of not getting involved. But since there are other clans that did live in parts of the world affected by WWII, it's not beyond thinking that a few individual gargoyles might have decided to get involved. And until we know different, it's fun to speculate.

Ask Greg> Greg just said that he has been approached by Warner Bros/DC to world on one (or maybe more) of their direct-to-DVD releases. If it happened, that would be pretty cool. My hope is that if "Spectacular Spider-Man" doesn't get a third season, Disney and/or Marvel will at least consider Greg's idea for direct-to-DVD movies to continue the story. Not an ideal solution to tell stories Greg was hoping to do as seasons of the TV series, but still better than nothing.

Demonskrye - [<---"George and A dot J dot " at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Not sure what the rationale is for expecting that gargoyles would have gotten involved in WW2. There were entire countries that did not get involved. If the Swiss didn't get involved when it was going on all around them... why would gargoyles in Guatemala?
Patrick - [<-- T-shirt Clearance Sale]
"If we explode the atom bomb, would they say the we were dumb?" - The Police, "Walking in Your Footsteps"

Greg once said that Demona was probably hoping during World War II that the humans would all wipe each other out (thus saving her some trouble) - but was unsettled after she found out about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Maybe that's one reason why she's been actively pursuing genocide - she can't trust the humans to destroy themselves in a way that would render the planet habitable for gargoyles (or anything else).

DEMONSKRYE - Good point about Arthurian Britain, though if Greg gets to do "TimeDancer" but not "Pendragon", he might give Brooklyn a visit to Camelot as a way of telling that story. (He's mentioned before that he'd find ways of transferring the stories he wants to tell from one cycle to another, depending on which cycles he gets to tell.)

Crazy little creativity demon for this month: the trio think that Bronx could be more active (he's spending so much time snoozing beside Hudson's recliner), and so decide to take him out with them into the city on their excursions. During the Christmas season, they decide to see the big Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center and bring Bronx with them. Unfortunately, he gets loose, heads over to the tree, starts sniffing at it, and then....

After things have calmed down, the trio decide that maybe they should let Bronx go back to napping beside Hudson's recliner after all.

Todd Jensen

ROBBY> The British fighters seen in MIA are indeed supposed to be Spitfires, but as Greg already showed Bader actually flew a Hurricane in the Battle of Britain rather then a Spitfire.



REAL WORLD: Hurricane

Never make fun of 80s cartoons. 80s cartoons are no laughing matter. 80s cartoons are more serious then AIDS.

PATRICK> This is Demona we're talking about. Common sense isn't her strong suit.
Greg Bishansky

Demona's been alive through a lot of wars, but I really doubt she joined up with with any side in any of them. After watching one she'd be smart enough to stay out of the next. :P
Patrick - [<-- T-shirt Clearance Sale]
"Napoleon had been steaming in there 100 years before: "I'm going to kill them, I'm going to kill them, going to… Oh, it's a bit cold, it's a bit cold. Right! Ok, ok, bad idea." And then Hitler, "I've got a better idea, got a better idea… Oh, it's the same idea! It's the same idea, it's the same idea..." - Eddie Izzard

Robby> The implication of the quote as I read it is that the planes in the episode were Spitfires, but Greg later found out that they should have been Hurricanes.

Gargoyles in WWII> I think it's within the realm of possibility that one or more gargoyles of the Ishimura Clan might have felt as Griff did and gone against their clan's general policy of isolationism to take part in the war. It would definitely be interesting to see how Greg would handle the idea of gargoyles in WWII fighting against the allies, if he ever chose to do so. It could end up being a look at the more complex reasons that individuals have for fighting; that it isn't always because they agree or disagree with the big political concepts being espoused by one side or the other, but that they see a need to protect their home and family. I'm not sure if it's something Greg would want to look at in that context, but it's a thought.

While it's kind of tempting to think that Demona would support the Nazis even if she didn't actively fight alongside them, I kind of doubt that she cared much who won the war and who lost, so long as the largest possible number of humans ended up dead. Greg has recently said that racial prejudice is likely very confusing to gargoyles, who vary widely in appearance yet still recognize each other as all part of one species and as equals. Nazism may well just be one more sign to Demona that the human species is a plague that eats its own and must be destroyed before it takes down her kind and the entire world.

Demonskrye - [<---"George and A dot J dot " at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Battle Beast> Don't get me wrong, I am sure Demona was active during the war, but serving her own agenda. I have an idea of what she might have been up to, but not getting into it here.

Robby Barrows> Your question was definitely answered in that excerpt I posted from Ask Greg.

Greg Bishansky

I dont think Demona would ahve fought in the war, liked Greg said; she definatly wouldn't wave any flags. In fact, i think shed like to see humans kill each other. she woulkd have a good laugh about it.
battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.


...that really didn't answer my question. ALl I was asking was if they were Spitfires or Hurricanes since, until the later models after 1940, both planes looked a lot alike.

Robby Barrows - [rbgecko at yahoo dot com]


"The planes themselves just look great. I found out later that Bader didn't fly Spitfires during the Battle of Britain. He flew Spitfires later, but flew Hurricanes during the Blitz. This fact drives me crazy."


And once again, a list of the clans that existed at the time. Also, keep in mind that these are not superheroes. They're very, very territorial, and usually don't concern themselves with what goes on outside their protectorates.

The London Clan - No one aside from Griff.
The Ishimura Clan - Considering how isolationist they were, I doubt they left Ishimura, even during the war.
The Mayan Clan - Again, very remote, I doubt it.
The Pukhan Clan - Not bloody likely, but who knows?
The Xanadu Clan - Don't they mostly breed beasts and protect the beasts? Again, unlikely.
The Loch Ness Clan - They protect the Loch Ness Monsters, and as far as I know, the Germans didn't march into Scotland, so again, no.
The New Olympian Clan - Definitely not.
The Avalon Clan - Definitely not.

Demona - I have my own suspicions about her during the war, but I somehow doubt she was waving any country's flag.

But to answer your question, did any gargoyles fight in World War II? Yes. Their names are Griff and Goliath.

Greg Bishansky

In the Battle of Britain episode, I was having trouble identifying what type of air superiority fighter the Brits were using. Was it a Hawker Hurricane or Spitfire? The rate of fire suggested a Hurricane, but it kind of looked like a Spitfire. Any clarification?

And did any Gargoyle Clans take part in World War 2?

Robby Barrows - [rbgecko at yahoo dot com]

blaise> thanks!it still hurts, but i've dealth with this injury befoire... :/
battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

Thanks for keeping touch with all us Gargoyles fans after so many years, Greg. I'm the host of a live, call-in podcast called Late Nite JengaJam and I was hoping you'd be free one fine Tuesday evening to talk Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider-Man.

Keep up the great work! Love the archives!

J.G. Edathil - [latenitejenga at gmail dot com]

Todd> The only reason I would hesitate to suggest that Brooklyn would visit Camelot is that those stories could also be covered in "Pendragon." It's the same reason I wouldn't guess that Brooklyn will be spending any more time in 10th century Scotland, as that material would be covered in "Dark Ages." Still, I'd be happy to get some tales of gargoyles in the age of Camelot, no matter what spin-off they appear in.

JJ Gregarius> I am pretty sure that Greg said Brooklyn would return from his travels with a permanent disfiguring injury [SPOILER] which I assume is the injury to his eye, since I didn't notice him haveing any other notable scars or missing body parts. [/SPOILER]

Mythology in Comics> As a follow-up to the Comics Alliance list of the best uses of the King Arthur legends in comics, I though you guys might like their list of the best uses of mythology in comics:


Demonskrye - [<---"George and A dot J dot " at The Ink and Pixel Club]

Thinking about what Brooklyn may have experienced during the timedance....

* [SPOILER] We see Brooklyn with an eyepatch. Are we sure this means that Brooklyn's eye is injured/missing? Could the patch be for another reason, like a wearable computer? Or, y'know, the ol' "Wasn't that patch on the other eye" gag? :-P [/SPOILER]

* Have we seen post-Timedancer Brooklyn during the day?

* And anyway, I cannot recall: did Greg W. say that Brooklyn would be injured, or that he would look like the Brooklyn from "Future Tense" with one major difference?

JJ Gregarius

Brooklyn: "On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It's a silly place."
Patrick - [<-- T-shirt Clearance Sale]
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka

I'd rather like to see Brooklyn visit Camelot and see what kind of relations King Arthur had with gargoyles during his original reign. Did gargoyles actually live at his court, for example, like the Wyvern clan dwelling at Castle Wyvern under Prince Malcolm? Or did the gargoyles whom he knew live out in the wilds but agree to help him out when he needed their aid? How did his knights and the other famous figures at his court (such as Merlin or Guinevere) feel about gargoyles, and Arthur's alliance with them? (I've had a suspicion for some time that in the Gargoyles Universe, Mordred might have exploited anti-gargoyle fears when he was making his claim for the throne.)

Another might be the American colonies around 1776, in case the Illuminati really did have some connection to the Founding Fathers and the American Revolution - and Brooklyn might discover some of it. (Note how familiar the Illuminati's one-eyed pyramid symbol appears - and also our past speculation about Quincy Hemings' ancestry.) Or maybe even the U.S. during Theodore Roosevelt's administration, when Hemings first got a job in the White House (I might have been prodded all the more into imagining that after reading "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" where Scrooge and Teddy Roosevelt become friends - it'd be fun seeing what T.R. would have made of gargoyles).

Todd Jensen

****Blaise falls in through the sky light.**** Ow! Well, that seems par for the course in the Comment Room at this time. I suppose I have my own woe to add, though it doesn't compare with some.

SPEN> Sorry to hear about your being laid-off. Here's hoping you get something just as good or better real soon.

BATTLE BEAST> OUCH! Double OUCH! Well, at least you most likely won't be found at fault for the accident. I really hope your arm heals quickly (right around the Holidays, too).

ANDREA> Well, that was quite an adventure. May your next day be nowhere near as..."interesting."

NOT TO BE LEFT OUT: or "HOW NARROWLY SNATCHED DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY"> Well, I'm still having problems with my new Graphics Card, though now of a different sort. After reinstalling my O.S. and then doing the same with the Chipset drivers from the Dell website, I was finally able to install the drivers for my graphics card. It worked beautifully...for maybe 10 minutes. Then, suddenly, the monitor went to "Power Saver" mode, a fan somewhere in the computer went on really high for a couple seconds (I don't know which of these happened first), and eventually the computer rebooted. I know this because the Windows login music played, but my monitor remained in Standby. So I turned the computer off, waited a few minutes, and turned it back on again, normal mode. It booted up fine, I was able to get into windows and work, but again--10 minutes later--the monitor went into standby (but the comp itself didn't reset at least). One half-hour later I turned it on again with the side panel off so I could verify that the Graphics Card fan was working. It was, but this time, after I logged in, the screen went black, then blue (as in "--screen of death") and the comp rebooted. I haven't turned it on since--been busy checking with various tech supports.
The annoying thing? After switching out the Power Supply Unit, changing the graphics card was supposed to be the EASY part.

BROOKLYN'S TIMEDANCE LOCATIONS> I've got to remain somewhat on topic.
Well, it might be interesting for him to witness and/or help the Olympians move to New Olympus. Umm...dang, I'm running out of time (stupide library computer). I'll try to talk some more later.

Well, thanks for lending an ear (or eye, in this case) to my own little problem. Here's hoping that the rest of the week is better--for all of us. Until next time! ****Blaise takes a running leap out the window.****


ROBBY BARROWS> This has been covered in Ask Greg many times. I'm curious, do you ever read it?

From the FAQ>

27. What are the limits of Demona's and Macbeth's immortality? How much damage can they take?

It is unknown how much damage they could take. They have never suffered wounds like a beheading, and no one ever smashed Demona while she was stone. Destiny is at play here.

Greg Bishansky

I was wondering-what would have happened if Demona was smashed while she was sleeping after her deal with Macbeth? Would both them die? Would Demona regenerate?
Robby Barrows - [rbgecko at yahoo dot com]

Re: Dreams . . . I think it all depends upon how much control you give yourself in dreams. Yes, you can control your dreams, some of them anyway. I kicked Freddy Krueger's ass a while back.

Re: Timedancer stories . . . I wanna see Brooklyn take his famblee to Didneyland!

Re: Fun weeks . . . Andrea, where do you work, if you don't mind my asking?

Guardian - [Guardian105 at gmail dot com]

In my dreams, I'm a lover, not a fighter. ;)

id love to see Brooklynvistisome other clans definatly,lochness, maybe see a young xanatos in dartmouth, that'd be cool.

Old Japan , I think, would be his fisrt stop.

battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

For some reason, this silly idea popped into my head: Take his family to see the zoo, you know, like humans do! Hm. Not very exciting, unless you devise an actual plot. Oh well. Try again next time.

In other news, I had an interesting dream where I found two people conspiring against whatever group I worked for and when I was attacked, I totally kicked this guy's butt who underestimated me. Broke all the bones in his hand. I never lose a fight in my dreams:) Is that common for other people?

Jade Griffin - [jade_griffin at hotmail dot com]
"Food, food, FOOD!!" - Jade Griffin, on many occasions

Eek, sounds like much of the room is having a bad start to the week. My condolences all around and I hope things start looking better for you.

OK, since we don't have a topic of conversation currently, here's one: where would you like to see Brooklyn go on his timedancing adventures that isn't a time and place we already know he will visit? With 40 years worth of stories, I'm guessing there are still some that Greg hasn't told us about yet and there are all kinds of interesting events that Brooklyn could be around for.

The first one that came to me was that Brooklyn could visit the Mayan Clan around the time that the Sun Amulet and the four pendants were created. I think it's a bit of gargoyle history that I'd like to know more about. What was the clan's relationship with the local Mayan people like? What promprted the creation of the Amulet? Why are there four pendants? How were the first gargoyles to bear them chosen?

Demonskrye - [<---"George and A dot J dot " at The Ink and Pixel Club]

I had an interesting night at work...

Apparently, a drain hole in the store (for our coolers) was massivly clogged, down 220 feet. It was stinking up the store all weekend, and it took them time to pin down the source and get a team in to drill down and fix it. I was in the backroom most of the night, so I didn't have to deal with most of it, but DAYUM was it bad. Smelled like old rotting garbage and sour milk.

Took them 8 hours to fix it (and they had to go back to the shop to get more cable!), and while you can still smell a little bit, it's 1000x better than it was at the worst point.

Now duing all of this, our feight lift is going AGAIN (they never fix it right, I swear). My boss did warn me, and I got 2 uses out of it before it died and got stuck about an inch from the top. I didn't realize the motor was STILL running until I was paged downstairs, so I might have accidently killed it even more. Sure was fun dragging down overstock to be worked by hand /sarcasm, though I can say the 3 year old in me was most happy to watch the packages of toilet paper tumble down the stairs like slinkies.

So with one problem fixed, now they have to get someone out to fix the lift for like the 6th time in less than a year.

And then I get home like 20 minutes ago, and realize, I STINK, like sour milk and garbage. And I just did my laundry yesterday. Febreeze to the rescue!

But I still would ahve to say a broken arm trumps all that.

Andrea - [SailorV77 at yahoo dot com]

I was in a car acccident today. got rearended got out of my car to check damage, and slipped on some ice... fellbreaking my arm in the process. thiis is number =4 for the arm! :(
battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

What? someone can get close enough to measure Demona and survive?

Since today was St. Andrew's Day (see my last post), I decided to celebrate it by rereading "Clan-Building Volume Two" (because of all the Scottish history and Scottish setting in both stories) and Rosa's rejected "history of the McDuck family" pages in "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" (which covers the McDucks' adventures in Scottish history from the building of Hadrian's Wall to the Norman Conquest, including an encounter with Macbeth).

BISHANSKY - Nobody will ever learn about Demona's measurements; she'd never let anyone get that close to her with a tape measure.

Todd Jensen

Thirteenth in the name of finding a topic here soon so we don't have to resort to Demona's measurements again.
Greg Bishansky

Twelfth, in the name of being laid off. Again.

And a happy St. Andrew's Day (St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland - I shouldn't have to explain why that's relevant in a "Gargoyles" comment room) to everyone!
Todd Jensen

Last but not least, 10th
VickyUK - [vickyfanofwwe at aol dot com]

Greg Bishansky

. . . and in the name of using one's favorite avatar XD
"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

"The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Lucky 7!

Demonskrye> I should have clarified this earlier, but the make-your-own board is not an official Monoply product, more like a knock-off, so the corner squares have their own things instead. My plan is to keep them the same as the real thing (with minor modifications of course to fit the theme, but with the same purpose).

Andrea - [SailorV77 at yahoo dot com]

(6)Sixth again as well!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]

Fifth! Again!
Guardian - [Guardian105 at gmail dot com]


third. I hate Montreal. Sorry Riders!!! :(
battle Beast - [Canada]
That is all I will say.

*looks up*


*stares @ the rainstorm outside*

KingCobra_582 - [KingCobra582 at gmail dot com]
Grr. Arg.

First. Woo!