Matt>"Is there some reason people assume that Kermit and True might've been mates aside from the fact that they are from the same rookery?"

They breathe and exist in physical space.
Harlan Phoenix
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 9:38:11 pm EDT from 24.208.168.48

I honestly prefer Gnash/Lunette and Kermit/True a lot over pairing each of them with one of these dull, pseudo-Garg OCs. But I also have to admit that I don't care much about each of these pairings anyway. :S
Comet
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posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 8:57:43 pm EDT from 80.187.110.204

I have no strong opinions one way or another about Gnash/Lunette or Kermit/True, but I don't see any harm in people "shipping" these pairings, and in fact I think if you're someone who strongly favors economy in storytelling, it kinda makes sense to pair these characters off in your own personal "headcanon."

Taking Lunette and Gnash as examples, if both of them are to have mates when they get older aside from each other, then that means two entirely new characters need to be created and fleshed out, and presumably at least a few stories need to be told about these characters to make us care about them. But if they end up together, no new characters need to be made and more "screentime" or "pagetime" could be spent fleshing out Gnash and Lunette themselves plus giving more time to add little character moments involving other members of the cast or maybe a scene/page that enriches an action sequence in one of the storylines, because you wouldn't need to spend time introducing and making us care about new characters.

Obviously I've no clue what Greg's plans are for these two characters, but I wouldn't mind a tiny bit if they ended up together, as long as their personalities are such that they would be compatible (we really don't know much about either character yet) and as long as their romance begins in a way that it would be believable that they are developing feelings for each other.

Plus if you're like me, you would find it a little bit presumptuous when people insert characters of their own creation into fanworks about an established universe. I don't write fanfiction and I don't usually read it either but if I was gonna, I'd rather read a story where the writer works with Greg's existing characters rather than hamfisting their own into his universe. And yes, I know we weren't talking about fanfiction. I'm kinda just rambling. Fanfiction, in my mind, is the extreme end of what happens when people start thinking about what might happen in the future of a fictional universe that they care about.
Rebel
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 8:54:52 pm EDT from 174.109.133.102

Is there some reason people assume that Kermit and True might've been mates aside from the fact that they are from the same rookery? I tend to doubt they are the only gargoyles their age among Demona's clan circa 997, though they are the only ones in their cell and probably the only ones with their roots at Wyvern.

For all we know, True left the clan/cell to find/join a mate elsewhere.

I just have a sense that Kermit and True's relationship was much more based on being the only immediate sibling and peer available to each other. They were friends, I imagine, but beyond that... I don't know.

The whole thing reminds me of how people talk (or 'ship') about Lunette and Nashville. Sure, it is possible and could be cool, but I think it is mostly based on the fact that they are the only gargoyles we know of at that age at that time period.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 1:55:06 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

Brack> <<I also thought it would be cool if Brooklyn time danced into the New Wyvern Clan in the future but believed that he actually time danced into the old Wyvern Clan, pre-castle.>>

Considering how huge a chunk of the cliff side is missing, Brooklyn would have to be a gigantic moron to make a mistake like that.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 12:00:47 pm EDT from 67.87.243.32

Brack> <<I also thought it would be cool if Brooklyn time danced into the New Wyvern Clan in the future but believed that he actually time danced into the old Wyvern Clan, pre-castle.>>

Considering how huge a chunk of the cliff side is missing, Brooklyn would have to be a gigantic moron to make a mistake like that.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 12:00:46 pm EDT from 67.87.243.32

oh cool, it works.

Interesting thought, that thing with Kermit and True being mates. Although I doubt True lived long enough to become fertile. She isn't present in the clan in 1020, and I doubt that mates would live in different cells or one would leave the clan while the other wouldn't. For example, if she was banished, Kermit would probably have followed her..

Also, my favourite Gargoyle designs are Brooksbro, the Blue Beaked Gargoyle, Second, Schnozz, Constance, the aquatic blue Gargoyle on Avalon and also his fat reddish friend, and 2 background characters from Ishimura (the beaked brown one with the beard and the small one sitting on the ground here).
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/5337/isgruppe4.png
Comet
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posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 11:26:27 am EDT from 80.187.111.16

test
Comet
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posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 11:21:06 am EDT from 80.187.111.16

As far as True goes, I figured she was killed along with the rest of the clan after Demona betrayed MacBeth. But I have hope that somehow TimeDancing Brooklyn saved one of her eggs (possibly fathered by Kermit) and took it with him leaving it with another clan to raise.
I also thought it would be cool if Brooklyn time danced into the New Wyvern Clan in the future but believed that he actually time danced into the old Wyvern Clan, pre-castle.
Brack
posted @ Sun, Apr 28, 2013 10:10:26 am EDT from 98.87.102.22

Everyone knows who my favorite design is. But I think most of them are cool looking designs.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:54:02 pm EDT from 67.87.243.32

Ill start something. What is your favorite Gargoyle Design? Mine is Kermit, one of Demona's four.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
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posted @ Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:38:00 pm EDT from 137.186.192.203

I think you killed the room with that downer...

It's been an awfully slow couple weeks.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:11:57 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

If I had to guess, I would think at some point the Hunter got her.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Wed, Apr 24, 2013 6:15:46 pm EDT from 67.87.243.32

Of course, that would only add to the burning question: Where did she go and what was her fate?
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Wed, Apr 24, 2013 1:59:29 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

MATT> That seems more likely. Considering the conditions that clan was living in before the alliance with Macbeth, I can't see anyone or group leaving... Demona was the devil they knew, and she still provided for them.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Wed, Apr 24, 2013 1:09:44 pm EDT from 67.87.243.32

MAYBE instead of going to another cell or leaving the Clan altogether she was banished by Demona!
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Wed, Apr 24, 2013 12:31:50 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

Comet> Maybe.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!
posted @ Wed, Apr 24, 2013 8:52:06 am EDT from 137.183.232.27

Maybe she did leave Demona and maybe that's the reason why she's named "True". Maybe she didn't want to be part of the plundering and stuff. Maybe she died in an attempt to show how much she disagreed with Demona. Maybe I used the word "maybe" way too much in this post.
Comet
Double, double, toil and trouble. Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
posted @ Tue, Apr 23, 2013 5:38:17 pm EDT from 80.187.102.18

Anyone have any theories on what happened to True, Hudson's third biological child? Anyone think we'll see her again? I wonder if, as she got older (assuming she did), she disagreed with Demona on things. Maybe she joined another cell... or maybe something more drastic...

She is quite the mystery, really. As far as I know, we don't even know why Greg calls her True.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Tue, Apr 23, 2013 4:35:35 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

"You must understand, young Comet, it takes a long time to say anything using Proper Nouns. And we never say anything unless it is worth taking a long time to say."
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 10:37:20 pm EDT from 50.29.205.45

I adore that Ten. But overall, this countdown took a long time.
Comet
Double, double, toil and trouble. Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 9:14:51 pm EDT from 80.187.98.166

Ten... Ten... Oh!

Demona, Second, Sacrifice, Schnozz, Brooksbro, Chomp, Chaw, Kermit, True... and the blue beaked gargoyle in the Lunfanan Cell in City of Stone.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 8:31:46 pm EDT from 99.92.109.252

(um, existing clans by 1994?)

London Clan, Ishimura Clan, Mayan Clan, Pukhan Clan, Xanadu Clan, Loch Ness Clan, New Olympian Clan, Avalon Clan, Manhattan Clan
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 12:31:24 pm EDT from 70.176.170.14

Dr. Octopus, Vulture, Electro, Sandman, Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, Kraven!
Ross
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 10:13:57 am EDT from 147.226.100.30

Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Bashful, Sneezy, Dopey
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 9:29:04 am EDT from 159.240.11.253

Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Superboy, Miss Martian, Artemis
Supermorff
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 8:40:56 am EDT from 62.25.109.195

Mistress Quickly, Mistress Doll, Pistol, Points and Bardoplh
Comet
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posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 7:53:26 am EDT from 80.187.111.75

Brooklyn, Katana, Nashville, and Fu-Dog.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723@yahoo.com]
I am Bad. And that's good. I will never be Good. And that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be, than me~~Bad Guy Affirmation
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 7:47:32 am EDT from 24.217.38.192

Coldstone, Coldfire, Coldsteel
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 3:07:32 am EDT from 67.87.243.32

Tommy and Tuppence Terror!
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"People livin' in competition...all I want is to have my peace of mind..." - Boston
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 2:53:18 am EDT from 134.173.91.112

Primero!
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!
posted @ Mon, Apr 22, 2013 12:00:44 am EDT from 174.101.230.22