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Hi folks me again!

Just to let you all know tomorrow I'll be getting my chance to meet Frank Welker at Liverpool Comic Con, as Darth Vader said himself "This will be a day long remembered". I also just won a Gargoyles graphic novel off eBay for only £4.50, not sure how much that is in US dollars. I believe this is the Marvel comics from the 90's all combined into one. I'm aware these are not canon, but it's a big deal for someone like me cause finding any Gargoyles merchandise in the UK is very limited. Who knows maybe I might get Clan Building and Bad Buys as well someday, if I look hard enough.

Anyway I'll keep this short, I don't want to hassle anyone's time here.

See you all soon,


Jamie Spilsbury - [jamiespilsbury117 at hotmail dot com]

Vandal may have had a personal reason for letting Will go and keeping Roy on ice despite Cadmus policy. [SPOILER] In the comics, he's Roy's ancestor. [/SPOILER]
Of course, we all wear costumes.

I've also been rewatching Young Justice and a moment I find interesting in the first season's finale is Red Arrow escaping because Vandal Savage was too busy basking in his victory at the time. You'd think Vandal would have immediately put Red Arrow back under control with Starro-tech as soon as the "mole" programming started to fade, before going to stare out the window.

"We also get our first reference to Peter and Eddie's parents and how they died, I need to look through the archives and see what Greg had to say about them, I kinda remember his saying something but I'm not sure what. Sadly they couldn't be SHIELD agents in this continuity."

I never much liked the idea of Peter's parents being spies, as it kind of betrays his "everyman" roots. I think my favorite version of Richard Parker is probably the one from the Ultimate Spider-Man comic, where he and Eddie Brock, Sr. were experimental scientists who worked together. Not only does it tie in to Peter's affinity for science, but it also gives him a head-start on creating web fluid. The "spy" thing really only exists because Stan Lee needed a way to add some action to a story about Peter's parents, and I wish he'd gone a different way. It sounds like Greg was planning to have them killed as part of a conspiracy to steal something they'd invented. I could go with that, just as long as Norman Osborn wasn't responsible (shades of Jack Nicholson Joker killing Bruce Wayne's parents).

Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

Thanks for the "Persona" review, Matthew. I remember the delight among the viewers over the episode taking the time to show *how* Chameleon was impersonating Spider-Man and his abilities.

And it definitely triggered some memories; I'd forgotten about Peter's astonishment at J. Jonah Jameson's knowing so quickly how many words were in his "get lost" sentence until you quoted it.

Todd Jensen

Woops, forgot to pretty myself up! ;P
Of course, we all wear costumes.

MATTHEW> Well, Greg's implied that not only do the FF exist in the SpecSpideyVerse but they primarily handle more "cosmic" threats. So maybe, Symby's just considered relatively unimpressive compared to the Skrulls or Galactus.
Of course, we all wear costumes.

Watched "Persona" today, you can make your own Atlus joke here______x
I like how Peter being the big science geek makes such a big deal over the discovery of alien life, albeit a more primitive one. Then again when re-watching this you may have to redefine what counts as primitive, like the starfish the ooze may not have a centralized brain (it might only develop a more complex thought process after bonding with a host) but has spatial awareness and an acute sensitivity to touch and sound. This is so completely groundbreaking that honestly I'm surprised that after it hitched a ride back on the shuttle the US government didn't spirit it away to some secret facility which "doesn't exist."

This episode is jam packed with foreshadowing and containing a lot of elements that will be important for the rest of the quadrilogy. One thing I've neglected to mention is Eddie's growing hostility towards Pete and now Spider-Man, even when sharing exciting news with the guy he still can't help but give a not-so passive-aggressive dig at the guy. And we see it doesn't take much at all for a mistake made by Pete to turn into a personal affront to others (and mostly himself) from his perspective. Funny to think that this episode signals the end of their brotherly relationship.

Another thing that was heavily foreshadowed was May's condition and what will happen next episode, to say nothing about her cooking skills and how this play into the finale. I couldn't help but notice her mention about giving leftovers to the food drive, now this seems innocuous but when checking back I saw that Greg wanted to introduce Mister Negative into the series. And considering that he runs the homeless shelter and food bank F.E.A.S.T. I wonder if this was just a little bit of foreshadowing that might've become more important later.

And the last bit of foreshadowing comes from Peter himself, or rather the little changes to his personality when influenced by the symbiote. Like his decision to keep the symbiote using the "it's not my decision to make" excuse. That plus the little nagging voice in the back of his head not to give up the ooze makes you wonder just how much is being influenced.

The introduction with Black Cat is really great, kinda confirms my theory about her trying to stay away from the authority's eye considering she doesn't like being blamed for any crime. I haven't spoken much about the music in the series but I love her motif. It's sneaky with a touch of seductive jazz at the edges, it honestly wouldn't sound out of place in a Sly Cooper game. Her character was done well too, a proper femme fatale that's neither wholly good nor bad, sometimes they don't exactly balance it out well. In Spider-Man the Animated Series she was a little too much on the hero end, in the comics she swung pretty far into villainy recently. It's about right here, someone you can rely on to watch your back in a fight but is anything but trustworthy. I like the little details too, like her having a jet ski ready just so she could rob the gala. Plus kinda funny that she's the one to give Pete his first kiss.

So we get our proper introduction to the Chameleon this episode (does make you wonder how many episodes he actually appears in). I like how he teams up with Mason and Beck here, all three of them are villains that lack the powers or skills to go against Spider-Man directly and use cunning and tech to mitigate that. I have to give credit to both Dee Bradley Baker and Steve Blum for their performance as the same character, first time seeing this I thought Dee just switched to a Russian accent rather than a complete actor change. It's a case of being similar but different that throws you off for a second. Nice touch to for them to create another Spider-Man character model for when Chameleon starts impersonating him, one that's taller and bulkier than the normal one as Captain Stacy notices. I have the feeling that in another, less observant series they'd just reuse the character model and not pay attention to things like height differences. Fun Fact: the springs on the heels of his boots and suction cups on the fingers were used by Mysterio in his debut when he was framing Spider-Man in the comics.

Some final thoughts: Nice attention to detail with the symbiote upping his strength, now he's making jumps he couldn't make before and catching piles of I-beams with ease that he would've struggled with earlier. I like the guilty look on Pete's face after Flash declares he'd never believe Spider-Man would turn to crime especially after he made the decision to keep the symbiote. We also get our first reference to Peter and Eddie's parents and how they died, I need to look through the archives and see what Greg had to say about them, I kinda remember his saying something but I'm not sure what. Sadly they couldn't be SHIELD agents in this continuity. I also have to wonder about who were the clients for Black Cat and Chameleon, Chameleon mentions some unnamed general over the phone and Black Cat brings up a certain captain of industry that wants it for its scientific potential. While I'm inclined to think it might be Osborne it really could be so many others, like Kingsley for example...

Favorite Lines:
Peter: Boss, I'd like a word...
Jonah: How 'bout "scram?" Or two words, "scram kid." Or seventeen! "Get out of my office in two-point-three seconds or I'll staple you to a flagpole!"
Peter: ...H-how did you count so... never mind. I can't believe you're printing flat-out lies!
Jonah: LIES?! You callow, insubordinate pup! The Bugle only prints facts!...and whatever it takes to connect the facts together.

Chameleon: The real one? You don't even have the costume right!
Spider-Man: I'm in mourning for my buried rep. Just like pickle-puss will be when he's forced to print a retraction.
Jonah: Retraction?! Listen web-head nobody tells J. Jonah...
Spider-Man: See? Even the jolly one himself knows I'm the genuine article.

Insert Inspirational Quote Here:________

I just think it'll be an interesting way to watch it and get a new viewing experience after seeing it the "normal" way so many times.

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It could make for an interesting experiment, but I am not sure why someone would want to watch the show that way. That’s not how it was presented to us. We were given the information when it was provided to us for reasons. Likewise, I never felt the need to watch “Pulp Fiction” in chronological order.
Greg Bishansky

There will definitely be a lot of disc-swapping (or clicking around on Disney+) involved, that's for sure. When time travel is involved, I'll probably just view those scenes in the episodes and context they belong in. For example, I'll just watch all of "Vows" in-between "Eye of the Beholder" and "City of Stone".

The Rock/Rock & Roll/Rock of Ages will be the biggest hurdle, but I've noted all of the timestamps to the issues they're in, to help me keep track.



Logan -- Hmmmmm, so, chronologically, I can see how you could more or less watch, say, "Avalon" Part One right after "Awakening: Part Two"'s first act, but what's the plan for all the "Hunter's Moon" flashbacks, or even the back-and-forth of "Long Way till Morning" and "City of Stone"? Stopping mid-episode and jumping/returning when relevant, or just chalk up the episode as PAST and watch it before "Awakening: Part One"? The various time-traveling episodes also have me curious about your gameplan.

The above isn't a knock or critique, I'm just curious and also wondering how feasible it could be to replicate. (and I'm assuming we're just limiting this to the original two seasons -- I can't wrap my head how the SLG comic three-parter of "The Rock"/"Rock & Roll"/"Rock of Ages" could be calculated in, lol.)

"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

After combing through the excellent timeline on GargWiki, I'm planning to view the show in strict chronological order for the first time. Really looking forward to seeing it this way, despite having seen all of the episodes quite a few times over the years.

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Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"But you know, I like 'Deku.' I think it could make a great hero name! Plus, I think it's kinda cute!" - Ochaco Uraraka


Hi Mr. Weisman. I have a question for you:

I don't know if you are aware, but in the "Early Warning" episode of Whelmed: The Young Justice Files (back in Oct. 2019) the host quoted you on something you told him in conversation. This is something that used to happen now and then, but lately it happens in almost every episode: "Greg texted me this", "Brandon emailed me that", "Greg/Brandon told me whatever", etc.

So, looking at your 2-year-5-month-and-7-day backlog of 1231 questions, I'm wondering: why are you giving BTS information to this one person while the rest of your fanbase has to submit questions and wait months (at least) or YEARS (worst case and more likely scenario) for an answer???? It must be really cool to be so intimate and chummy with one's idol, and I bet the host feels super important and validated, but this is some double standard bullshit!

Are you aware of this? And if you are, how can you be okay with it? Don't you think this is unfair? You have thousands of fans who support your work whichever way they can, but 99.9% of them have never even met you in person, let alone exchanged emails or text messages with you.

If I make an entire podcast dedicated to kissing your asses, will I earn the same privileges? Will I be able to ask all my questions without a waiting queue? Will I get to hang out with you, have lunch together or exchange personal contacts?

(Originally I posted this on AskGreg, but then I decided I shouldn't have to wait 2 years for an answer, for all the reasons above.)


It’s been deleted. What did he say?

For those of you keeping track...


She stole my food then asked me to help her spy on people. Is this what love feels like?


Good to have this place back up.

Todd Jensen

Water, Earth, Fire, Air!
Insert Inspirational Quote Here:________

Ador, Bow & Glimmer!
She stole my food then asked me to help her spy on people. Is this what love feels like?

VickyUK - [vickysunseeker at aol dot com]

Number one(#1) with a bullet but always first over all!
Vinnie - [thomaspeano at yahoo dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!