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Hmm, now I'm wondering if the Gargoyles-universe Herne the Hunter had any sort of connection with the Canmore Hunters over the centuries. Or maybe no connection, but knows of their existence, and once back on Avalon he hears Coyote complaining about Coyote and is like "I feel ya, buddy."

Thanks Todd. Your mention of Herne the Hunter got me curious so I looked him up. Pretty fascinating that he has some similarities with the ancient Celtic god Cernunnos. He sounds like someone who may have a connection to the Children of Oberon.
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This is an exaggeration of truth, it is an obvious marketing strategy.
Injustice gods among us 2 - [patsm00re18 at gmail dot com]

Oh, and welcome back, Patrick. It's been a long while, but I was delighted to see that you were still using your familiar color and avatar.
Todd Jensen

MATTHEW - Thanks for your latest episode review.

The two "Sinister Six" moments that I remember best(and liked both of them) were Doctor Octopus addressing the rest of the group, "Gentlemen... Rhino", and then wiping his mouth with a napkin held in one of his mechanical arms.

I recall the "Merry Wives of Windsor" moment as well. It stood out to me the first time I saw the episode because, earlier that week, there'd been an announcement that the next issue of the "Bad Guys" comic (of course, it wound up waiting until the trade paperback came out) would have Dingo meeting an old acquaintance, and I'd immediately thought (based on such matters as his real name being Harry Monmouth) that the acquaintance would be Falstaff (which it was). And then, just a few days later, we get a specific mention of Falstaff in "The Spectacular Spider-Man" - talk about spooky timing!

(Alongside Falstaff, "The Merry Wives of Windsor" has one other element that would fit "Gargoyles" well - the mention of Herne the Hunter, whose legend gets in near the end when Falstaff is out in the woods. Given all the business involving hunters in "Gargoyles", that I noticed during my 25th anniversary viewing last year, Herne would definitely be an appropriate figure to appear at some point.)

Todd Jensen

Wow, this place still exists. But not the chat room, sadly? What’s good, everyone? It’s probably been ten years since the last time I stopped by.

Watched "Group Therapy" today, a cute little double reference considering this is the first time we see the Sinister Six in action, to say nothing about how several characters are in serious need of counseling.

One thing I should really bring up is Doctor Ashley Kafka; there's been this weird thing about psychologists in comics, how the majority of them are evil to some degree. You've got Scarecrow, Hugo Strange, Doctor Psycho, Moonstone the list goes on. Which is why Dr. Kafka not being one of these is such a big deal, and honestly I feel kinda bad for her. She's trying her best to give these costumed wackos the help they need and the moment she turns her back Electro's already planning villainy.

Speaking of needing help, Eddie really needs to get his anger checked, not to mention check his need to blame Pete for everything that goes wrong in his life. We really get to see his resentment this episode and how he has NOT found a good way of dealing with it. Heck even when talking about his parent's deaths it still swings back to being connected to Peter in some way. It makes me wonder just how he grew up considering he didn't have any family the way Peter did, perhaps bouncing from one foster family to the next. (If Greg answered that in the archives let me know) I also liked the bit of foreshadowing when it comes to his biker jacket, black with white stripes, a nice nod to his future as Venom.

Speaking of foreshadowing, the design of Peter's spider-suit goes through an interesting change this episode, the web lines are faded to the point of being nearly invisible and the legs on the spider emblem are more angular and jagged. More concerning is that this is when he starts referring to himself as "we" and not in the royal sense. And by the end of the episode he's not only aware of the fact that suit took control of his body but he's rationalizing it as well, when he offhandedly questioned how he ever got by without the symbiote I imagine that the symbiote took that as a sign that Peter was reaffirming their mutualism. It's kinda crazy to think that if he didn't lose the alien by the next episode he might've developed a dependency complex.

And for the Sinister Six, one of the most famous villain team-ups in all of comics. One thing you can always count on with Greg is his knowledge that when fighting bad guys you need to change things up, make both sides evolve in their conflict and battles or things quickly turn stale. It's always fun to see the ups and downs of group dynamics and the work Doctor Octopus goes through to keep them all on the same page, mostly by reminding them that main obstacle to their goals is Spider-Man. I do like that they mention that the tricks used to defeat them won't work a second time, case in point Doctor Octopus now has a living power supply meaning he doesn't need the battery he tried to get in his first appearance.

The ups and downs for their team-up are pretty apparent, Electro may be able to better control his powers but he's still pretty trigger-happy and more likely to hinder the team rather than help it. I'm pretty sure that Otto mostly keeps him around for providing his arms with electricity, not to mention he's the most loyal to Octavius. Vulture doesn't have quite the destructive power the rest of them have but makes up for it by keeping Spider-Man grounded and within reach of the more dangerous members. Yet even with his reinforced pack his technology is still vulnerable. Rhino and Sandman are the two powerhouses and work well together but even the two designed to be impervious still have limitations, like Rhino being hit by a full blast from Electro and Shocker and Sandman being destabilized by Shocker's gauntlet. Shocker may be the most tactical of them after Doc Ock but his elitist attitude and resentment on having to work with the rest of the "freaks" demonstrates on why he would stick with them for long.

The second fight against them shows off this interesting display of the symbiote's fighting prowess, it alternates between letting the Six take each other down (probably learned that resourcefulness from Peter) and some rather brutal attacks, when he snagged Shocker and Electro and smashed their heads against the bridge railing? Ouch. Then there's what he almost did to Octavius, when he threatened to strip it away from Peter you can tell the symbiote wouldn't let anyone threaten to take him away from Pete. On a side note, I can't help but wonder if the Symbiote constantly tricking the Six into attacking each other was a subtle nod to how the Gargoyles would get the Steel Clan robots to crash into each other.

Some final thoughts: We get our first Greg's Shakespeare reference for the series as Anna and May were going to see "The Merry Wives of Windsor." I'm glad that May's heart-attack wasn't just this sudden occurrence and they took the time over last episode to show that she wasn't in the best condition even before the shock of the Six hit her. We once again see that despite all his shouting Jonah is still a decent person and feels it's his responsibility to let Peter know that his aunt is in the hospital. And Mary Jane proves to be the most socially conscience again, making sure that Peter knows just what happened to May.

Favorite Lines:
Doctor Octopus: Now then, arachnid, any last words?
Spider-Man: Homina homina homina comes to mind...

Doctor Octopus: Check please.
Waiter: It's um...on the house.
Doctor Octopus: How kind of you. And wise.

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Masterdramon> Just rub it in, why dontcha?

(Why did we have to change, Indiana?! It was one of the precious few things we could brag about over the other states!)


CALLISTO - Probably not; I doubt she wanted to share those feelings with anyone at that point.
Todd Jensen

I always wondered if Elisa told her mom about her feelings for Golaith in the mark of the panther episoxe at the end when she said let me tell you the whole story.

What do yall think?

Callisto - [darrylmon dot dw at gmail dot com]

And -- hailing from Phoenix -- I've always said that ignoring Daylights Savings is the one thing done right that Arizona is known for, lol.
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Ten Things I Hate About You!

And LOL Greg, I enjoy that John Oliver segment as well. ;)

Of course, being from Hawai'i - objectively the best state - I don't have to deal with that outdated nonsense. The only effect DST has on us is that our time difference with all y'all increases by an hour.

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"But you know, I like 'Deku.' I think it could make a great hero name! Plus, I think it's kinda cute!" - Ochaco Uraraka

BISHANSKY - Probably force of habit.
Todd Jensen

You know Greg, I have more than a few relatives that would disagree with your assertation that cows are dumb. I've also seen that they're apparently music lovers.
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Hi Mr. Weisman. I have a question for you:

I don't know if you are aware, but in the "Early Warning" episode of Whelmed: The Young Justice Files (back in Oct. 2019) the host quoted you on something you told him in conversation. This is something that used to happen now and then, but lately it happens in almost every episode: "Greg texted me this", "Brandon emailed me that", "Greg/Brandon told me whatever", etc.

So, looking at your 2-year-5-month-and-12-day backlog of 1231 questions, I'm wondering: why are you giving BTS information to this one person while the rest of your fanbase has to submit questions and wait months (at least) or YEARS (worst case and more likely scenario) for an answer???? It must be really cool to be so intimate and chummy with one's idol, and I bet the host feels super important and validated, but this is some double standard bullshit!

Are you aware of this? And if you are, how can you be okay with it? Don't you think this is unfair? You have thousands of fans who support your work whichever way they can, but 99.9% of them have never even met you in person, let alone exchanged emails or text messages with you.

If I make an entire podcast dedicated to kissing your asses, will I earn the same privileges? Will I be able to ask all my questions without a waiting queue? Will I get to hang out with you, have lunch together or exchange personal contacts?

(Originally I posted this on AskGreg, but then I decided I shouldn't have to wait 2 years for an answer, for all the reasons above.)


Billions of people around the world experience general fatigue all day after losing an hour of sleep to daylight saving time. For years, conventional wisdom has been that it benefits one particular group: farmers, but that’s not actually true. There are no farming activities that benefit from daylight saving. Of course daylight saving doesn’t benefit farmers, cows don’t care what time it is, because they’re cows, and cows are idiots. So if it’s not for them, who is it for?

The modern daylight saving was introduced during the first world war as a fuel saving measure by the Germans. – That’s right, you lost an hour of sleep this morning thanks to Kaiser Wilhelm! And while back then, daylight saving may indeed have saved fuel, in the modern era, energy consumption is a little more complicated.

In fact, when Indiana adopted daylight saving in 2006, guess what happened: the data shows that daylight saving actually led to a 1% overall rise in residential electricity. Of course it did, because switching on a lamp an hour later in the summer doesn’t really matter when you’re blasting an air conditioner and staying up all night psychotically scrolling through Instagrams of your ex’s honeymoon to Morocco.

But that’s not to say daylight saving doesn’t have any effects at all. Studies show there is an increase of car accidents and work-related injuries the week after the time change. – That’s right, what you lose in sleep, you gain in mortal danger. Despite all this, seventy countries around the world still observe daylight saving and yet by going by local news reports, none of them could tell you why.

So if it doesn’t benefit our energy bill, our health or our stupid, stupid cows, it has to make you wonder: daylight saving time, how is this still a thing?

Greg Bishansky

"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

6th in the name of I need that hour of sleep I lost.

Also, 6th in the name of Goliath, Hudson, Brooklyn, Broadway, Lexington, and Bronx.


FIFTH in the name of our very own Masterdramon posting the latest installment of his TimeDancing Polynesian fanfic epic Hawaiki.


If you haven't been following this monster, I recommend catching up 'cuz all Heck just broke loose.

Of course, we all wear costumes.

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Vinnie - [thomaspeano at yahoo dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!

Chip - [Sir_griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Never learning the truth that what feels as though a burden pushing down upon our shoulders, is actually, a sense of purpose that lifts us to greater heights. Never forget that fear is but the precursor to valour, that to strive and triumph in the face of fear, is what is means to be a hero.~~~Trollhunters

VickyUK - [vickysunseeker at aol dot com]