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Comments for the week ending October 25, 2020

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Thanks for mentioning the show's anniversary, Phoenician. I won't be rewatching the series this year, but I'm still glad you brought it up. (Next time I do rewatch it, though, I wonder how my new cat will respond to Cagney. Both my previous cats sat up at attention - once - when Cagney meowed on screen, but otherwise ignored him.)
Todd Jensen

Happy Anniversary!

Today marks TWENTY-SIX years since the debut of Gargoyles' first episode, "Awakening: Part One".

It truly feels like ages since we last celebrated the show's premiere, and I do hope everyone in the fandom -- cast, crew, and fan alike -- are safe and healthy and doing well as possible.

Despite the above angst about the frequent bouts with time these days, I still get a kick that this year in particular (back in July), also marked the one-year anniversary (in Avalon time) of Oberon's Gathering. We won't see that timing again until 2044 d:

Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

MATTHEW - Thanks for the latest review. The part you mentioned about Maq and Opie ensuring that the nail was where it was, at the very end of Chapter 35, was one of my favorite moments.
Todd Jensen

Excuse the tardiness, but I had to write a book review for my blog and I've been experiencing troubles with my wifi.
Covering chapters 31-35 and we wrap up the Kim arc, one thing I liked about the resolution to this was that Rain (and if Bastian could be seen by Aycayia) managed to overcome this by appealing to her humanity. It stands to reason that Aycayia probably doesn't spend much time outside of her manatee form and just seems like she had forgotten what it was like to be human, instead of the monstrosity Guanayoa tried to paint her as, and as the child-stealing siren she had become. Rain really steps up here by also reminding the Kim children of their own humanity, and much like the Neverland Trio by reminding them of their own parents.

There's a big theme not just in these chapters but in the book itself that tragedy begets tragedy. Aycayia, for all the genuine love she gives to her adopted children, still steals them away from their parents. And ultimately they die not as humans but as simple dolphins, far away from their homes and their families. Not only creating heart break for their parents but breaking her own heart when they do pass on, where then she seeks out new children to mother. I think that it was important that Aycayia did offer the choice to the Kims, as she wasn't given any in her own life (I'll touch on that when I cover the end) and the fact that she respects their choice firmly cements that all the mistakes she's made are driven by love not malice.

The other big thing comes from Maq and Opie, two characters who just keep getting more mysterious. One's a dog with clairvoyance, the other a bum who can see the future. We see here how the two of them compliment each other, Opie focuses on the smaller details and can keep Maq from giving too much. And Maq is able to see the bigger picture Opie can't, like sending Rain the dream to ensure she helps heal Aycayia or putting a nail in the road to make sure the Kims are found by the public. Then there's the nature of their game with Guanayoa. What are the rules? Who set them up? Are these the only players or is there someone or something else at play?

A couple of final thoughts, we see that even if Renee doesn't fully understand what's going on, she now has a firm foothold into the plot and is basically forcing her way into it. Cash is now another ghost ally to Rain and I have the dark suspicion he won't be the last.

Matthew
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I actually knew who Iglehart was going to play from a couple of weeks ago when I was doing background research for Hazbin Hotel for an upcoming review. I looked to see who cameoed in the pilot and his name and future roles popped up.

Incidentally, he sounded a lot like Kevin Michael Richardson just from his one line in the pilot.

Matthew
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Bulba's new voice is from James Monroe Iglehart. He's done voice work before, especially on Tangled The Series from looking at his filmography.

Incidentally not sure how much is afforded for the YJ cast, but think he could do a good Godfrey?

Antiyonder

PHOENICIAN - One detail about the Fountain of Youth episode that I particularly liked was Scrooge's recalling working on his Uncle Pothole's steamboat, an allusion to Don Rosa's "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" (which, incidentally, I recommend to everyone here who's been watching the new "DuckTales" series).
Todd Jensen

Sixth and I am loving this latest wave of DuckTales! Last week's "The Forbidden Fountain of the Foreverglades!" and this week's "Let's Get Dangerous" have been real highlights -- I'm thrilled that we'll be getting new episodes through November :~)
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

ANTIYONDER - I spotted [SPOILER] Bonkers [/SPOILER] too. That was definitely a fun nostalgia trip for everyone who'd watched the original "Darkwing Duck" series.

Incidentally, was that Keith David voicing Taurus Bulba? It sounded like him, but I wasn't sure.

Todd Jensen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dw44RV4-tY

The recent DuckTales episode "Let's Get Dangerous" gets a full upload on XD's channel.

Cameo from [SPOILER] Bonkers [/SPOILER] and from [SPOILER] Solego the Chaos God. Villain of a Disney Adventures crossover arc between Tale Spin, Rescue Rangers, Goof Troops, DuckTales and Darkwing Duck. Kind of a swan song for the Disney Afternoon comics in the magazine too [/SPOILER].

Antiyonder

I think a better point of comparison between Coldstone and Frakenstein's Monster would be when Coldstone fled to the Himalayas. Coldstone's fall into the Hudson wasn't deliberate, the way his retreat to the Himalayas and the Monster's retreat to the arctic were.
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

Third.

MATTHEW - Here's a modified reprint of my feedback on your "Re-Awakening" review, from last week. (Don't worry about the long gap between "Gargoyles" episode reviews; you filled that time with a lot of reviews of "The Spectacular Spider-Man" and the "Rain of the Ghosts" books, so you certainly haven't been idle.)

Some of the material in your review was familiar to me (such as the shopkeeper's response to the robber being increasing exasperation - I still recall his words at the end "Can't you rob someone else this time?"), but the comparison of Coldstone in the ice-covered river to the Arctic setting of the beginning and end of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" hadn't occurred to me before (even with the more obvious "Frankenstein" echoes). It might have been a coincidence, of course, but I still enjoyed that thought. (It's always pleasing to see the original book brought up in "Frankenstein" discussions.)

Todd Jensen

If you missed it I did an official review and analysis for "Reawakening" on my blog.
Check it out here: https://mattthemediahunter.home.blog/2020/10/18/review-and-analysis-gargoyles-reawakening/

As always, I'd love some feedback.

Matthew
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(#1)Number one with a bullet but always first over all!
Vinnie - [thomaspeano at yahoo dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!