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It's worth noting the[SPOILER] our saboteur has heat-vision which implies... a lot.

I'm also REALLY curious what the overall political situation in Milk Way in the 31st Century is like, given Savages' sated long term goals and how his Pact with Darkseid is intended to eventually play out. [/SPOILER]

Algae
I have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience... Cup-cup, da-da?

On the question of motive, [SPOILER] I do like the idea that the saboteur went back to save Superboy just because they read old holodramas (or whatever) and genuinely liked him as a historical figure. As of Season 3, Connor's UN address made it acceptable for metahumans and other strange creatures to go public. That should be historically significant.

From what little I know of the Legion they're generally pretty happy guys, not given to Machiavellian scheming. [/SPOILER]

Friendly CIA Spook
Okay, not THAT friendly

Yes.

My best guess is that we HAVEN'T been shown everything there was to see in that little chamber beneath the Church- [SPOILER] There was, of course, a telepath in the group. I don't know if Saturn Girl's powers are generally powerful enough to fool M'gann's senses, but I allow for that possibility.

I also freely admit I don't fully understand the significance of the Kryptonite- was it the component added TO the bomb? If it wasn't, what DID the saboteur add to the bomb? Getting SB's attention wouldn't technically require anything that complex. Did the Kryptonite serve any significance beyond keeping Superman at a distance so he wouldn't see what happened?

Another flaw with my hypothesis is that Chameleon Boy refers to an "enemy" at some point, implying (but not confirming) that the strange saboteur was the enemy in question. I maintain that it could have been an oblique reference to Darkseid's forces (forensic analysis might have confirmed the Apokoliptan nature bomb, so it might have become a matter of historical record by the 31st century). Remember, Dreamer refers to Apokolips with the same term, "the enemy". [/SPOILER]


But in the end I do have to acknowledge my guess has holes in it. Maybe there are details I just haven't grasped the significance of or maybe I'm just dead wrong, I don't know.

Friendly CIA Spook
Okay, not THAT friendly

The problem is, [SPOILER] If the saboteur was trying to save Superboy, why would he have set up a kryptonite bomb instead of just making noise some other way and moving the camouflage cloth out of the way? And it couldn't have been to save Superboy - as it stands, if the bomb had gone off, Superboy probably would have been the only survivor. And we know he wasn't wounded in the crossfire - he's in the lava, the kryptonite bomb goes off, then he's gone. There's no crossfire for him to have been wounded in.

I do think the saboteur is a rogue member of the Legion, though. And it does seem like his goal was to either trade the lives of the Martians for Superboy's or to kill him along with the Martians. But I really have no idea why - stopping a historical atrocity is all well and good, probably to the point where a time traveller would say damn the consequences and accept the upheavals a populated Mars would do to the timeline, but why kill Conner at the same time? Was there a version of history where he became a tyrant or something? Or was it for the effect his death would have on the world? [/SPOILER]

Karrin Blue
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I've been wracking my brains to try and anticipate future developments in Phantoms, and I think I might be on to something here.

[SPOILER] The Time Traveling Saboteur in the little honeycomb-bubble is not a villain at all; more likely they're a rogue member of the Legion of Superheroes, who went back in time intending to avert a historical disaster and save the lives of Superboy, the majority of the Martian race, or both. I believe this mostly because their actions are what tipped Connor off to the bomb's existence in the first place, allowing him to save the day. Meanwhile Saturn Girl and her team arrive in the present to try and prevent this, fearing the repercussions to the timeline. When SG's team arrived beneath the church to confront the rogue member, an altercation broke out; Connor was caught in the crossfire, possibly wounded by the Kryptonite; realizing that she is unable to let him simply die, and knowing he played no other role in the timestream anyway, Saturn Girl agreed to stow him in the Phantom Zone, so he might be thawed out in the future and take advantage of future medicine, somewhat echoing Mon-El's backstory. Superboy will arrive in the 31st century but be unclear of how to return- or if he even should. [/SPOILER]

Still no idea who this mysterious individual is specifically, as I'm really not terribly familiar with that part of the DC universe in general. I'm also not sure, in this event, that the storyline would be resolved this season, considering how self-contained each arc in the season has been this far.

My apologies in advance if such rampant speculation is inappropriate for the comment room.

Friendly CIA Spook
Okay, not THAT friendly

I don't know if Greg is reading the comment room right now, and this is pretty small potatoes to the point where I don't want to put it in the queue, but: the third teenager on the left in the picture of Celia and Wendy isn't Tara, she's a lot shorter, was wearing purple armor, had her bangs sticking out of the helmet thing, and was also on the Bioship (convincing Brion to come help save them) at the time. That character is a boy with reddish hair and a mole, and I don't think he shows up in the later scenes at Taos, or if he does probably only as an extra.

...I know this is very niche, but for some reason I really wanted to say it somewhere. It doesn't help that the Twitter picture's coloring is really grayed out.

Karrin Blue
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Excuse the double post, but I was rereading the archives to look through the list of places on the Young Justice Galactic Tour. Thus far we've seen Khüiten Peak and Ma'aleca'andra. [SPOILER] That just leaves Xebel, which I figure we'll get once we hit Kaldur's arc and Armagedda. Still not sure how that's going to factor in, though given what's happened with Mary I can guess. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Given that the presence of a Ma'alefa'ak can send a group of Martians into a panic, there's a good chance that they have a more difficult time dealing with predators than humans do on Earth. And that's assuming that the Ma'alefa'ak is the apex predator in the first place, if there's something above that. Yikes.

One thing I've also thought about is other Martians in the galaxy. They may have stayed away from Earth but there's no reason they couldn't travel to other planets and may have done so in large numbers in the past. It's implied that the extreme isolationism of this season is a pretty recent (in Martian terms) thing.

Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

I assume, like on Earth, the Martian population boom is relatively recent phenomena. The only reason to have 36 kids is if you're not expecting most of them to make it to adulthood. Maybe Ma'alefa'ak attacks or psychic plagues where more endemic until recent history.

It's possible the population growth might level out as Martian couples choose to have fewer offspring in coming generations. We're already beginning to see similar trends here on Earth...

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/1/5/22867184/us-census-population-growth-slowdown-migration-birth-death

In conclusion, Thanos is an idiot who is wrong about everything.

Algae
I have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience... Cup-cup, da-da?

I feel like someone asked this already somewhere, just can't locate where.

Martians are relatively long-lived, have large families, and murder is generally unheard of among them. Yet their planet doesn't appear particularly overpopulated, from what we can see.

Something must be keeping their population numbers in check, so what might that be? Dangerous animals, environmental hazards? Wars? Traffic accidents from joyriding bioships while underground?

Friendly CIA Spook
Friendly CIA Spook

I love this week's update. It's very cool.
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Happy to report that my Q-Figs of Goliath and Demona finally arrived in the mail today. Such fun additions to the other recent Gargoyles merch from the last few years, it's exciting to think that there's still more from NECA (and KidRobot) and Quantum Mechanix in the months to come :)

Also, Fifth.

Phoenician
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Choose an avatar and everything. They may be spammers, but they're certainly dedicated.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

The advertising spammers are sending birthday wishes?
Todd Jensen

Oh well, Happy Birthday Rhea!
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Oh yeah, forgot that MLK Day isn't a fixed date but the third Monday of January.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

"YOU DID NOT JUST TELL ME TO HURRY!!!"

According to the timestamps, Rhea was born on January 21, which does indeed correspond to MLK Day of 2019:

https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Rhea_Beecher-Duncan

So this year, she's still got half a week before her big day.

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It's also the night of the Full Wolf Moon - which might evoke a certain Pack member.
Todd Jensen

And according to the show, also little Rhea's birthday.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Second, and happy Martin Luther King Jr Day!
Karrin Blue
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First yet again.
Todd Jensen