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Comments for the week ending February 20, 2022

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MATTHEW - I'm looking forward to seeing that gag.
Todd Jensen

Checking ahead, after "Legion" there's some great episodes like "Lighthouse in the Sea of Time" and "The Mirror." So I do want to get to those and I've already thought of a running gag for "The Mirror."
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

I really liked the "Othello" allusions as well. I still recall glimpsing Desdemona and Iago's names in the ending credits and feeling excited about it.

More recently I've thought that the Xanatos program inside Coldstone feels almost like a foreshadowing of the Xanatos Program of "Future Tense", though I don't know if it was intended that way or not.

Todd Jensen

Yeah, Legion's kind of a mediocre episode. I think it's because it was the third Xanatos plot in a row, but it wasn't as fun as LotP or as emotional as Metamorphosis. Still, I like the "Othello" allusions.

Gargoyles mainly avoided shipping wars, I think, because the canon ships are so strong. That said, it might have been different if Greg hadn't told us about Katana. Imagine if, from 1996 to 2006, we had no idea about Brooklyn's future love life. I think there would have been a lot of argument between people who wanted Angela and Broadway to stay together and people who wanted her to get with Brooklyn instead.

Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

And "Gargoyles" fandom has been mercifully freer of shipping wars - a few arguments over whether Brooklyn, rather than Broadway, should have wound up with Angela (and nobody ever seemed to ship Lexington with Angela), and maybe one or two who believed that Goliath and Demona should get back together (pigs sprouting wings and flying with them seems far more probable), but that was about it.
Todd Jensen

Ship wars were far less deadly when they were wooden vessels firing cannons at each other on the high seas.
Todd Jensen

Todd- Yep that's the one. I'm going to need to do some work on that one because it doesn't stick in my memory the same way other episodes have.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

The queue's back over 1000. I gotta say, I wasn't expecting ship wars to be what got us past the Milestone, but that's the internet for you.
Karrin Blue
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MATTHEW - The next one is "Legion", right? I know that you've reached "Metamorphosis".
Todd Jensen

So looking at the archives, I realized it's been nearly a year since my last Gargoyles review. I'm going to try for a new one in March, because I've been a little swamped with other things I've been working on the month.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

Oh sure, I think Delphis and Dolphin are basically interchangeable for our purposes. And yeah, I think we can tall about that part of S3 without spoiler tags now? And probably at least some of S4, though I'm not sure where the dividing line should be.
Karrin Blue
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The events you're talking about happened long enough ago in "Young Justice" that they don't need spoiler tags, right? (I haven't watched Seasons Three or Four, so I don't know how recent these developments are in the series.)
Todd Jensen

I still kind of refer to her as Dolphin rather than Delphis though that's mostly because I'm approaching the characters as I know them through the comics.

It would be interesting to learn some details about her, but as I've written before, no character is under any obligation to spill out their entire life story.

Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

I wonder how the actual BIF felt about their impersonators. Probably mostly just annoyed, especially if they're an actual independence movement trying to overthrow a dictator, but it could be neat to see some real ones someday. Maybe Bart would feel bad about making fun of their name, if they turned out to be pretty decent people.

Also I really don't get that person, and the other one in the queue, that don't get that Delphis picked the name Delphis and that's her name now. I mean, Kaldur said outright that she chose it herself, and she pretty clearly wanted a fresh start, in the finest superhero tradition. Ah well.

Karrin Blue
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Now I'm wondering what the trio must have made of that part of the movie.
Todd Jensen

Todd Jenson> As a certain old film even referenced in the series has stated via a line of dialogue "Man is in the forest.".
Antiyonder

Like any good politician, Margot is quite good at projecting.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.

First. And happy Valentine's Day!

I was recently looking through my copy of "Clan-Building Volume One" at the adaptation of "The Journey". I believe we all recall the scenes where Margot's making statements about gargoyles on her television debate with Macbeth and then we cut to scenes involving the gargoyles that rebut those claims (she says "Our children are not safe" - shows Alex happily playing with Bronx and Lexington; she says that the gargoyles are incapable of human-like thoughts and feelings - we see Broadway, Angela, and Brooklyn in the castle library, displaying those). But I spotted one this time around that I hadn't noticed before. Margot states that the gargoyles are the most dangerous creatures in the world - cut to Castaway's helicopter firing on an injured Goliath, who is forced down onto a rooftop below, temporarily stunned - so which species is really the more dangerous?

Todd Jensen

Happy Valentine's Day!
Karrin Blue
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