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I added the part about Maol Chalvim being killed at Hunter's Hill to his entry in the GargWiki (in the "historical background" section); it was just too good to leave out.
Todd Jensen

The Peredur/Percival/Duval/Valmont thing continues to baffle me as well. I noticed that Duval/Valmont is consistently depicted in green, and wondered if there might be some link to the Green Knight (who we know is alive in the Gargoyles universe, and has ties to Percival’s father Gawain). Is it possible that some sort of weird body-transference occurred?

DC besides what you said is also the reboots not going all the way from the get go. If they actually started all heroes from square one VS restarting the least popular ones, then things probably would have fallen into place.

Like revamping Superman to establishing that Clark Kent didn't don his tights until adulthood, but keeping his teen super hero alter ego's involvement in the Legion of Super Heroes canon. Not just an inspiration, but a member who helped regularly on missions.

So while it doesn't patch all continuity holes, they establish the source of inspiration to be from an Earth manufactured from their old enemy.

Then DC editorials later on decide to reboot the Legion and sever ties to the Superman. Thus the Pocket Universe can go.

Except it was visited again by Sueprman as a means of introducing a new Supergirl (Protoplasm merged with a copy of that world's Lana Lang). Plus the Man of Steel after executing some highly powerful Kryptonian criminals (As strong as Silver Age Superman) then exiling himself into space, meeting the Eradicator who helped save him during World Without a Superman.

So, the Pocket Universe was made to keep a good chunk of Legion history, but then had to be kept cause it had recent relevant importance to Superman.

And when does Post-Crisis Superman debut at all? Several months sooner that John Byrne's Man of Steel miniseries in another DC series. Booster Gold #6. The Superman titles at the title while after Crisis, still keep Silver Age continuity in effect.

The detail in Booster Gold that points to the guest star being the then modern age Superman is him scanning Booster's equipment which includes a Legion Ring. Instead of him recognizing a device used by his boyhood buddies, all he can make out of it is that it is advanced technology. #10 letter page confirms that factoid.

A more popular cited one is how Donna Troy who is an adult hero with experience has her connection to WW removed as Diana only now (1986) is an active hero.

The miniseries Legends (The first DC Universe story Post-Crisis) crossed over into various titles including Justice League of America which had several flashbacks to the team's first encounter with Amazo. Wonder Woman is shown among them despite not having left Themiscyra. Whoops.XD

Besides the New 52 repeating such, they took it a step further like reprints of stories hinting to Teen Titan history being valid, with such details omitted from reprints of any stories acknowledging them.


Matthew> At this point whether it was a story from Late 30s to the end of the 90s or anything past, I just go with what's is good at this point whether it's kept for a decade or re-connect almost immediately.

Or in the case of Spider-Girl? Yeah, Spider-Man trading his marriage to the devil or the couple never getting to raise their child namely is rare case where going to the possible (good factual) future and cutting of the mainline when it doesn't canon.

Plus while killing of Aunt May might have been ill-advised considering that reviving a non-super hero/non-villain is even more a mess especially in Spider-Man, still well done and moving. But in Spider-Girl (Even confirmed in the letter from #47), that retcon never occurred.

And I get it. I only started getting interested in the big two's (older) stuff due two the Marvel shows in the 90s while I was a teen. Then eventually DC as an adult due to eventually catching up on the DCAU, Super Friends and so on.

But there are people who actually grew up on one or both of the two companies as kids and have been into the stuff when they were decent all around.

But tough love is sometimes important. I would like to have been a regular reader of The Amazing Spider-Man, but buying it regularly/knowingly at it's worst is unpleasant and only gives the company room to believe that Peter Pan Parker is the only course.

Helps also that Spider-Girl even when getting serious doesn't treat optimism as a thing of shame or is afraid at other times to have fun.

That and yeah there is always the possibility that it can be a matter of wanting to be a part of thread's discussing the relatively popular stuff over reading the books that are enjoyable.


At times it's hard to get into Marvel and DC's mainlines specifically because of how many retcons, reboots and lack of story cohesion.

As a writer, it would be tough to see everything you worked towards just undone because of a bad writer took over or because of editorial decision.

Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

Meant to specify that as I never got into Marvel and DC's mainline with exceptions, my first ongoing were Spider-Girl and Justice League Adventures.

While the latter didn't have that same feel as the early DCAU tie in comics (Gotham Adventures could be shaky as it went on), still fun enough.

Spider-Girl well besides the occasional pick ups being easily to get into despite it's own continuity plus some back story used from the 616 stories, each one was worth the read.

Same with say Mark Waid Flash storyline The Return of Barry Allen from the 90s. Everything I needed to know was explain in comic/trade. Checked it out constantly, then bought it as the 2000s ended.

But back to Spider-Girl, writing also was good and even when my main knowledge was just the 94 animated series, jokes about the series quality aside I did enjoy the Peter/MJ relationship.

I knew from some skimming of the comics and the net that the main comics broke them up (via a stalker that was the cause of her "death"). So good writing, lack of needless complications and stowing the Peter must be Pan stuff.


Todd Jensen> Cool. Yeah as I ended up getting ongoing comics (First few years I mostly just got back issues, trades and a modern mini with at best an issue of what as ongoing.*), less Barnes and Noble comic stuff.

But got some good ones in the 2000s:
1. Marvel's Fantastic First (Mostly Silver Age debut reprints and Origins #1.)

2. Spider-Man Revenge of the Green Goblin

3. Daredevil Guardian Devil

4. Green Lantern/Green Arrow Volume 1-2 (The Hard Traveling Heroes stories.)

5. Crisis On Multiple Earths Volume 1-3 (JLA/JSA team ups from the 60s and up back when the original Multiverse existed.)

6. Marvel Masterworks Fantastic Four Volume 1 (A B&N edition)


Jurgen: The difference between now and the 90s is that it's catering to an actual demand for 'Gargoyles' collectibles; I see no evidence anyone is being duped into thinking the resell value on any individual variant is likely to be astronomical (although ironically if the comic were to go the fate of SLG, they might not be bad investments). Yes, the numbers will drop but I think Gargoyles does have the kind of audience where a significant proportion would be happy to buy multiple issues each month.

Todd: Quite right about Duval and Du Lac. I'm sure this is the most likely version. The Hunter's Lodge connection is fascinating. Let's hope Greg has seen that research as well!


I buy my copies at the local Barnes and Noble.
Todd Jensen

So how do you get your books?

Finally gave the comic store a chance on the Phoebe and Her Unicorn books, but generally I go on Amazon. But I think I'll keep doing so from the comic store from here on out.

Though I might see if he can pre-order/order volumes of my other GN.

But so far I get:
- The Baby-Sitters Club and Baby-Sitters Little Sister.

- Berrybrook Middle School series. Each volume is a single word and with an alphabetical approach. Awkward, Barve, Crush, Diary and Enemies.

- Katie the Catsitter.

- Peapod Farm series. So far just Stepping Stones and Apple Crush. First volume I knew of cause the 2020 FCBD list included a sampler. Same with a single volume book I got called Allergic.


That might be it, though I've seen mentions of a "rainy day activities" book in the series (not given an official number) as well. (I've never come across a copy in bookstores, though.)
Todd Jensen

Oh and I'm guessing the mention of 17 books is cause one is slated for next year and being counted.

The one based around music that Batman allegedly hates when he is poorly written.XD


I don't know. I think the only boys that Nickelodeon are speaking for is themselves.

AN TIYONDER - I was a bit surprised at the "seventeen books" part in the article, since the latest one ("Unicornado") was only No. 16.

And she approached Disney about it as well, before Nickelodeon accepted. (Reminds me of something I read about Dana Terrace approaching Nickelodeon (and the Cartoon Network) about "The Owl House" before Disney accepted.)

Todd Jensen

Todd Jensen> http://www.nickalive.net/2022/11/dana-simpson-gives-phoebe-and-her.html?m=1

So mixed on this. Max is getting more of a prominent role (I might be a Phoebe/Max shipper), but the reason is garbage.

Like I get the tried and true preferences, but it's like they didn't notice some successes like:

1. Jem and the Holograms

2. Powerpuff Girls

3. Sailor Moon English Dub

4. Kim Possible (Have the Kimmunicator beep as my cellphone ring.XD)

5. My Little Pony Friendship is Magic (To to be fair, it lasted only a meager 9 seasons and 9 years to boot.)(Yeah I'm being sarcastic Marge.)

Even if it fizzled out, I would think the test audiences reacting well to Korra in the first place would be something to note.


Thanks for your post, Ed. A couple of comments on it.

1. When you brought up Maol Chalvim in the Timedancer story - I might have mentioned this here before, but I learned a while ago that according to the actual historical records, he died at a place near Glamis called Hunter's Hill. Now, the real-life reason for the name seems to have been that it was a hunting lodge, but from the Gargoyles Universe perspective.... (All the more so since he died in 1034, two years after Duncan assumed the Hunter's hood.)

2. An alternate interpretation of Duval's name (I enjoyed your analysis of the various Percival-linked names, by the way): the "du" part might be French for "of the" (for example, Sir Lancelot was nicknamed "du Lac", meaning "of the lake"), so that his name would mean "of the valley".

Todd Jensen

Dangit. This talk of variant covers made me check gargwiki and I saw that there’s a store exclusive cover by Greg Guler, which if course I have to own. This series is going to bankrupt me.

So if Owl House does catch up in regards to binging, I wonder if Dynamite would be the place for Dana to try for a comic if Disney goes for more content.

But yeah, just a reminder that we are about a month away for more DW.


"The truly staggering number of variant covers is further evidence of how much this matters."

This bit kind of worries me. It reminds me of the speculator boom in the 90's, and I'd hate to see the bottom fall out of Gargoyles the same way.

Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

Just realised this week that 7 December is a big day for 'Gargoyles'. I mean, yes, for that reason, but also for another: the Season 1 DVD sets turn 18! That certainly doesn't feel possible.

I've been enjoying getting back into the show and the comics after a relatively long absence. I've particularly enjoyed getting my head around the Scottish history that was introduced at the end of "Clan-Building". I don't think I'd ever really thought too much into the arc of Maol Chavim II and the revelations about Gillecomgain's family links to Macbeth but I'm impressed yet again at how well fleshed-out this all is. I imagine it will be a very long time before we return to this era as there aren't many point-of-view characters left - it would have to be another Brooklyn timedance or maybe a Demona flashback between the first two parts of "City of Stone" - but I hope we get more of this someday.

Masterdramon: Great post. I would go so far as to add on three reasons to be broadly optimistic about the series continuing to show strength, beyond the strong start:

1. MOMENTUM. The SLG book was announced in 2005. From what I gather, I stand to be corrected, the licence ran from September 2005 to August 2008. I don't know how the licence worked but #1 finally released in mid-2006 so there was nearly a year of pure sunk costs. #3 wasn't until March 2007. And obviously there were many reasons for this and I don't mean this to throw shade on what was achieved under difficult circumstances by lots of people back then but I don't think the SLG era ever had more than three consecutive months where an issue released. Contrast this with the aptly-named Dynamite where it went from announcement to the first issue being scheduled in weeks - a dynamic launch in every sense.

2. A CRISP START. The SLG books had such a difficult legacy. TGC was non-canon except for one episode. Only the first 39 episodes were available on DVD. Three of the issues were repurposed from other venues. Plus, several of the stories had been mentioned in a relatively large amount of detail by Greg. Brooklyn's return at the end of #12 is an absolutely massive moment... except that it had been expected for 12 years. Although I gather Greg regrets it, I think it was great that he revealed a lot -- I think it did far more good than harm in terms of maintaining interest and glue in the fandom in those early years. I don't even feel robbed of the "wham!" of that surprise as I had 12 years to feel whammed. But now, old fans and new are largely in the same boat. #1 is the first new story. Sure, there is canon-in-training that may still come into play but while fans may hear the sizzle, we don't know the contours of the steak.

3. FANDOM CULTURE. Russell T Davies mentioned in an interview a while ago that Harry Potter showed him that fannish detail isn't something to run from but to run towards - that people, especially children, love and become immersed by material that is dense and full of references. But now the culture supports that. If people want to check a reference, they can load up an episode on Disney+, soon they will hopefully be able to pull up the back issue on Amazon and in any event they can likely find the gargwiki page on their phone. Even the idea of all these interwoven shows co-existing at once is now de rigeur. We live in an age of fandom and 'Gargoyles' is perfect for that.

Todd: I agree, the variant covers are great. Thanks to gargwiki for keeping track of them all. While I usually dislike variant covers as a concept as it feels like a bit of a price gouge, with something like 'Gargoyles' it makes sense as a way to add value for fans while amplifying the sales potential -- and it seems to have done that more effectively than I'd ever dreamed. Let's hope the comic continues to thrive.

One last piece of pre-comic speculation. I didn't expect to get into speculation this time as I really am happy to see the magic trick unfold rather than try to second-guess it, but I guess my brain just works that way...

Duval/Peredur/Valmont. I was struck reading through by the names.

Duval - "Deux" "Valley" - second valley?

Valmont - "Valley" "Mountain"?

So I looked up Percival and Peredur.

Percival means "pierce the valley" although it strikes me it also works as in "piercing the veil" (around the Grail?).

Peredur means "hard spear" - clearly cleaving to the "pierce" part of the name.

I'm not sure what the valley/mountain motif portends but knowing how precise Greg is with this sort of thing I'm going to look out for more of this kind of imagery.


It makes my heart glad to see the resurgent interest in Gargoyles, and hopefully the new series will continue for a good long time and even allow Greg to realize his other planned spinoffs.

It's good to have the comics at a more visible publisher.


Count me as another who's ecstatic to see the preorder numbers for Here in Manhattan #1. Fingers crossed that this momentum can be maintained going forward.

In terms of WHY the sales on this series are already so much better than with SLG, I'd posit a combination of four major factors:

1) Dynamite is a significantly larger publisher, with a much greater reach in terms of making the series widely available AND advertising it as such. The truly staggering number of variant covers is further evidence of how much this matters.

2) The rise of social media has significantly increased the ability to "spread the word." Back when the SLG comics started up in 2006, Twitter was just in its infancy, and the number of places even mentioning the comics outside of Station 8 were pretty scant. Now the news on the upcoming series is all over YouTube, Reddit, and Discord.

3) Similarly, the rise of digital comics, which were barely a twinkle at the time SLG was publishing. No doubt that a significant number of the preorders are attached to the digital version available at retailers like Amazon, especially for folks (like me) who won't have easy access to a traditional comic store receiving the print version.

4) The Gargoyles fandom has gotten many recent chances to expand far beyond the "old guard" present at this site. The availability of the episodes on Disney+ is obviously the biggest source of this; while nobody but Disney has the concrete numbers, I have little doubt the number of new watchers who've streamed it on the platform FAR exceeds the folks like us who bought the original DVDs. Add in the NECA figures, board game, upcoming video game remaster, etc. - not to mention crossover fans who jumped on board after growing to love SpecSpidey or YJ and electing to check out Greg's other work - and the potential audience for these new comics is simply far larger than it would've been in 2006.

Just a few more days left before we get to see all of these factors bear fruit...whoa rookery mamas, caaaaaaan't wait...

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"On the year's last day / When all of a life's accounts / Have been settled up." - Hana

I did notice that Eda has become a bit more protective of Luz's friends too. Did not expect her character path to include babysitting a bunch of pre-teen mages. Makes me wonder who else is going to end up in the "her dumb kids" category.
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

And (tying in with Matthew's comments on Tibbles' trap), there's the bit where King's telling Tibbles that he's going to be in a lot of trouble when Obvioso comes looking for his mustache - and then it dawns on him.... (Not to mention the fact that Tibbles chose an alias like "Obvioso".)
Todd Jensen

I love these small gags in The Owl House.

Thanks for the latest review, Matthew.

One of my favorite moments of that episode was Eda going through her mail. "Junk... junk.... death-hex." Tosses the death-hex into the wastepaper basket, which promptly disintegrates.

Todd Jensen

Matthew> While incidentally Eda working to get Luz into Hexside is easy to explain as Hooty putting a scare into her, now you can definitely argue otherwise.

Not even just Luz, but specifying that those four are "her" dumb kids.<3


Poor Hooty, he just wants to be involved.

Watched "Really Small Problems" which brings an interesting reversal, for the most part King has been part of the B-plot of each episode. Which is fine, he's the kind of character that can end up in really fun shenanigans when left to his own devices. But here we see his closeness with Luz and how much that really means to him, I don't know about y'all, but I'd definitely watch a comedy hour featuring the two of them.

I've mentioned before that I like that Owl House plays around with a lot of the usual plots and morals associated with kids tv. The "one character is jealous and insecure of their friend's other friends" is nothing new. But what I like is that it goes into depths about why he's insecure. He knows that Luz is going to leave and head back home before you know it, and with her at school and some fun school friends, he feels a little left out. And not just because he's short and adorable and has a hard time keeping up with with their long legs. King doesn't really have much friends outside of Eda and Luz (and his legion of stuffed animals), so it makes sense that he'd have a hard time socializing with others from another social circle. I'm actually curious to see how his relationship with Gus and Willow will develop.

When they were talking about how all of them ruined Tibbles' life and livelihood, I completely forgot that Luz, Gus and Willow (and Hooty) destroyed his booth. I love that he would create such an elaborate scheme of revenge that would only succeed if the heroes were incredibly gullible, or if King could tell the difference if he was wearing a fake mustache. It would be especially hilarious if the gang ends up ruining his life for a third time, intentionally or not.

Besides one hour of King and Luz comedy, I'd also watch an hour of Owlbert playing carnival games.

Favorite Lines:

King: Ah, some kind of deadly string weapon.

Luz: No, silly. That's a friendship bracelet.

King: Is that a type of deadly weapon?

Luz: A weapon of love! It's basically a declaration to the whole world that you're the best of friends!

King: Oh-ho! That's way safer than becoming blood brothers. Luz, we must have those bracelets!

Vendor: And...yoink. Sorry, ma'am. If your bone son wants wants these bracelets you have to play the games and win the tickets. You know, carnival rules.

King: Beat up the man and steal his things for me!

Luz: Or, let's just play the games.

King: Oh. Okay!

Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

So the Young Justice character countback seems to have moved to the "totally not Gargoyles" from The Flashback of Notre Dame. I think Greg's changed the name of the gargbeast from Left Bank to Rive Gauche.
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

Jurgan - 1st issue of the SLG Gargoyles comic sold 7500 or so issues. So yes, you where right about that.

After that, I was just curious as to how well the SLG comics sold.


Getting spoiled on Luz and Amity isn't as bad as getting spoiled on, say, who cursed Eda anyway.

Oh, and the other four "tracks of magic" are Construction, Healing, Bards (i.e., music-based magic), and Beast-keeping.

Todd Jensen

I only got spoiled with Luz and Amity and the show was hinting at it pretty heavily anyway. I think my gay-dar is better with fictional characters than it is with real people.

And Happy St. Andrew's Day. I mostly know about him because his cross is used in my denomination

Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

Todd Jensen> " Happy St. Andrew's Day, everyone! (I regularly mention it here because St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland.)" You and my Dad both!

Incidentally, your mention of getting spoiled on Luz and Amity's relationship prompted a hope that you can manage to avoid other spoilers. The "Luz and Amity are a couple" part is one of the easier elements of "The Owl House? to get spoiled on, but there are some other later developments in the series that I hope you can avoid being spoiled on, including a few elements you've already commented on, such as "Who cursed Eda?" or King's backstory and whether he'really is the king of demons or just the king of cuddliness and adorableness - and also the reason for the set-up of the oven system (I hope you can avoid the spoilers for that one). Not to mention a few mysteries which haven't even risen yet by this episode, and which I won't even hint at.
Todd Jensen

You know I completely missed the Basilisk connection, it's been some time since I've read or watched any of the Harry Potter series.

One thing that struck me is that Luz's magic was the only thing that hurt it (besides the sandbags), which does lend credence that this older form of magic is much different than the everyday magic used by the cast.

Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

Happy St. Andrew's Day, everyone! (I regularly mention it here because St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland.)

Thanks for the latest review, Matthew. Note that, alongside the parody on the Sorting Hat, there's a more serious echo of Harry Potter in the antagonist being a basilisk wreaking havoc - and they also follow the earlier interpretation of the basilisk as a monstrous serpent. (The term "*greater* basilisk" raises the question of whether there are other, lesser varieties in the Boiling Isles, closer to the later, cockatrice or monstrous rooster version, though there's been no mention of that in the series.) Some major differences of course, with the Boiling Isles version of the basilisk being able to shape-shift and draining magic rather than petrifying people. (One important question - which we'll get an answer to later - how did they become un-extinct?)

And King's short-lived time as a teacher until the principal catches him at it is great.

Todd Jensen

Youtube recommended videos already spoiled Luz and Amity's relationship for me. So I'm just enjoying the buildup of their bond.
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

And of course there is Amity's bit where she tries to convince herself that Luz attending the same school as her changes nothing.

And this what Luz's journey's been building to thus far.

Watched "The First Day" which finally sees Luz join magic school and here's where the inevitable Harry Potter jokes showed up; ugh that Choosey Hat.

Hexside has kind of an odd system to its education, like an extreme form of a magnet school. I get that there are dangers to mixing magic, but as the episode shows at the end there's also untold amounts of beneficial potential. Yes it pays to have kids find a talent they connect to and then teach and cultivate that talent. But at the same time there's always going to be kids who are deeply interested in multiple subjects and there's going to be kids who just don't know what the right fit for them is. We can make fun of Harry Potter (I certainly will continue to do so) but they at least had the right idea on some things. Have kids work on a wide variety of subjects until they're old enough to focus on the specifics.

This also brings up a couple of other points. We saw Amity practicing other kinds of magic outside of school mostly because she's interested in the Emperor's Coven. Is that the kind of thing she has to do? Work on only abomination magic at school and then practice outside of it? Getting kids into the most advanced and respected coven seems like the kind of thing any school would be proud of, so Hexside's insistence on forced specialization seems a little counter-intuitive.

I've noticed that Luz is very much a magnetic hero in this show which is a great bit of characterization for her. She's already got a great family unit in Eda and King...and Hooty. Plus her new found friends in Willow, Gus and Amity and her siblings. Now we have her helping out the Detention Track students achieve their hopes and getting the principle to lighten up some as well. I find it rather nice that in-spite of her nervousness and general weirdness that made her an outcast in the human world, it's her exuberance and kindness that endears her in the Boiling Isles. She may end up the most popular person around if she keeps this up

And gotta love King's desire for any kind of authority, even teaching.

To conclude, they made mention of the Nine Tracks of Magic. Thus far we've seen Abominations, Nature, Illusion, Prophecy and Potions. Have I forgotten anything?

Favorite Lines:

King: All right, read chapters three to five on the right way to scratch yourself in public. Spoiler alert, there's no wrong way. Ah. Days like these make being a teacher all worth it.

Principle Bump: You're not a teacher.

King: Weh? Maybe not, but I care about these kids, and nothing can change that!
(splashes Bump with coffee)

(smash cut to King being chased out with a broom)

King: Wee! Wee! Wee! WEE!

Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!

Well, 100,000 pre-orders is certainly good news. "Gargoyles" airing on Disney + probably helped ensure a lot of that. (How many of the people who pre-ordered the first issue remember the show from its original airing, and how many discovered it on Disney +, I wonder?)
Todd Jensen

You said "more than any issue," and I think the highest any individual issue sold was around 8,000.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

Jurgan - according to the website Comichron, the entire SLG run of Gargoyles (8 issues for Gargoyles and 4 for Bad Guys) sold a combined 64,965 issues.

"If I am not mistaken, isn't that more than any issue of the SLG line sold?"

Over twelve times more.

Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

I don't know if this was discussed, but I saw that Dynamite announced that there were 100,000 pre-orders of the first issue.

If I am not mistaken, isn't that more than any issue of the SLG line sold?


Welcome, odd sight!

*sneaks into the comment room, because the chat room has long been dead*
Beedoo! mentioned something on FB, so I started poking around old places. I miss the good old days. Also, third.

odd sight


I've mentioned this before, but one of my favorite aspects of the upcoming "Gargoyles" comic fro Dynamite is the Fleecs covers which depict the gargoyles meeting dogs - Bronx chasing pigeons (and a cat) with a couple of new canine buddies, Angela cuddling a puppy, Goliath meeting a Saint Bernard with a tennis ball in its mouth by the statue of Balto in Central Park. I'm looking forward to seeing what other such covers we'll be getting for the following issues. (I'm tempted to imagine one of Demona and a mean-looking dog snarling at each other.)

Todd Jensen

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