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Thanks the info, everyone!
Anthony Tini

Anthony: You can check the YJ Wiki article that is the first Google result for "Young Justice: Outsiders" and seems to be up-to-date and updated on the clock. http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Young_Justice:_Outsiders

Thank goodness Disney isn't allowed to look at unsolicited ideas; I don't think we need that crossover.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Check the news, as Disney now owns a great deal of Fox. If you're a Marvel fan, this could get interesting. But what this would mean for Gargoyles, well...

(Simpsons house, front yard, early evening)
Homer: "Hey Marge, what's with all those kooky statues on the front lawn? Don't tell me it's one of Lisa's so-called art-projects again!"
Lisa: "Uh Dad? I don't think those are ordinary statues..."
(sun sets, and the Manhattan Clan wakes)
Hudson: "Ach! Goliath lad, where in blazes are we?"
Goliath: "I'm not sure Hudson, but this doesn't look like Manhattan to me."
Bart: "Ay carumba!"
Goliath: "Jalapena..."


Anthony: No Gargoyles news, unfortunately. We're standing smack-dab in the middle of a 90s nostalgia wave right now; not only the new Ducktales, but shows like Samurai Jack and Hey Arnold! have also recently gotten a chance to wrap up their stories. If we count anime, everything from Dragon Ball Z to Cardcaptor Sakura to Kino's Journey has been getting continuations/spinoffs. Hell, even LeVar Burton and David Coburn got a chance to reprise their "Captain Planet" characters for an out-of-nowhere crossover with "OK K.O.!." But it hasn't quite reached our favorite winged protectors as of yet.

Still, the show will hit its 25th anniversary in less than two years' time. Dollars to donuts, I think THAT will be the best shot we'll ever get for a revival. But we'll need to really make some noise in the leadup.

Regarding YJ, the season will be titled "Young Justice: Outsiders." Greg Weisman and Brandon Vietti are back in the producers' seats, and it looks like as much of the cast and crew as possible are returning as well. Brandon confirmed it will be 26 episodes, and character designs - both for aged-up members of the old Team and for three new members, Spoiler, Thirteen, and Arrowette - were shown off at San Diego Comic Con earlier this year.

It will launch at some point in 2018, spearheading a DC-branded streaming service whose name, debut date, and price point have yet to be released. Fingers crossed it's not TOO onerous, but ultimately I'll pay whatever it takes to support this property.

You can check out more details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Justice:_Outsiders

Nick: It's a sign I might have too much of the Nasuverse on the brain, LOL, that I originally read that as "magical circuits."

In any event, there have been a few instances I can recall where conduits other than books were used. Demona cast the Fulfillment Spell via a tablet, and the Magus used a stave for several spells against the Weird Sisters. Admittedly in the latter case he was channeling Avalon's native magic, but I'd wager in a situation where he had the spell in front of him it could work for mortal magic.

Of course, the example of the Magus also proves the limitations of this. Without the Grimorum, he's powerless except to tap THIRD RACE magic (notice the rhyming rather than Latin), which is most immensely difficult and ultimately kills him.

This suggests to me that it isn't a universe like Harry Potter, where one can learn a spell from a textbook and then repeat it later. The spell needs to be in front of you; there's clearly more to "reading" it than just the memorized syllables making up the audible portion.

Perhaps the place, or way, the spell is written down matters? That there's some sort of "art" to how the spells in the Grimorum were originally recorded in it - the style and finesse of the penmanship, maybe even the materials used for the ink, pages, and binding.

Good question, BTW.

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Try me." - Samus Aran

Hey, guys! I've got a couple of questions about how magical conduits work, in Gargoyles, and I was wondering if any of my fellow fans could answer them. I don't think these've been expressly clarified in the series proper, but perhaps somebody could supply some educated guesses. 1- Do mortal sorcerers commonly make use of other iconic magical conduits, besides spellbooks,to work their magic, like wands or rings? 2- If so, do they function in the same way as spellbooks? 3- That is, could the sorcerer cast a spell they had learned by wielding a wand, instead of a spellbook, or would the spell need to be "built into" the wand, similar to how a spell is written within the pages of a grimoire?

Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!

No need for nastiness Stan, we try to keep things cordial here and save ugliness for the rest of the interweb.
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

Anthony Tini> Have you been living under a rock or are you just lazy? A simple Google search would have answered both those questions. Try it. ;)

Hello, everyone. It's been a while.

Any Gargoyles related news or still quiet on that front? Disney-wise I know there was a Darkwing Duck comic book that maybe got cancelled? and I know Ducktales is currently running with their reboot, but I don't know how the ratings are going for that show. The appears to be a small focus on the cartoons of our childhood, but no spotlight on Gargoyles yet it seems.

Concerning YJ, I see there is a season 3 coming but I haven't heard much about it. It's going to be on an app right? Is Greg involved? I noticed he took a break from Twitter and he hasn't been posting as much so I don't know what he's been working on.

Thanks for any insight/info!

Anthony Tini - [tinitinytony at hotmail dot com]

Thanks, Gore.


Matt - [Saint Charles, Missouri, USA]
"For SCIENCE, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward." - Sevarius

Requisite Fifth Amendment joke here. And thanks again, Gorebash.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!

Now that we're back up again, I recently came across a new book at the library called "Chronographica" (a product of Whittaker's Almanac in the UK), which covers a hundred major years in history and discusses some notable events in each one (ranging from 753 B.C. - Romulus and Remus - to 1989 - the fall of the Berlin Wall). One of the years it picked was 1040, and one of the events it chose for that year was Macbeth's overthrowing Duncan (focusing on the historical event, but discussing Shakespeare's play as well).

One detail of note: it described Macbeth as (before he defeated Duncan and became King) a "dux" or war-leader. One of the earliest writings about King Arthur (a 9th century work called the "Historia Brittonum") called him a "dux bellorum" (Latin for "leader of wars"), thus giving Macbeth and Arthur similar titles. Given the way that Macbeth and Arthur have often crossed paths with each other in "Gargoyles" (so far, every story featuring the Arthurian legend - "Lighthouse in the Sea of Time", "Avalon", "Pendragon", and the Stone of Destiny story - has also featured Macbeth), I found that appropriate.

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

I shall go fourth (heh) and also thank Gore for fixing it.
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

Thanks again, Gore -- noticed the GargWiki's acting normal as well :)

Also, THIRD!

"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka

Thanks, Gore. I hope that's the last time we go through something like this.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Everything should be back up and running. A disk on the server filled up late last week which stopped Ask Greg and the CR from operating correctly. Some space has been freed up and things appear to be working once again.