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Comments for the week ending March 11, 2018

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Thanks for your compliments on my article, everybody. I actually used to be an S8 regular for a while, and I've loved Gargoyles since the 90s.

Re: Brooklyn and Katana, I think it's a little too...human-centric, to phrase it like they would be more "protective" of Nashville, or more involved, or closer to a child, than gargoyles would be under normal circumstances. That just ties back to the interpretation that gargoyles love their children less because they do so collectively, which isn't true. Love isn't quantifiable.

And, if you want to be scientific about it, I think gargoyles might be instinctively driven to raise children collectively, and it's not something that can be undone by special circumstances.

Amanda Wells - [wellsaj at shaw dot ca]

Greg- I would suspect that they would have done the same with Angela when she joined the Manhattan clan. She would probably look to Hudson as a parent, in addition to Goliath.

Would she look to the Trio as rookery siblings? I don't know. Also, how would Broadway, Lexington, and Angela look to Brooklyn and Katana when they returned from their travels? Technically, Brooklyn is still Broadway and Lexington's rookery brother, but is now 2 generations older.

And as the Gargoyle clans become more integrated, how are members from one clan who join another clan viewed. For example, in Staghart and Lexington become mates and stay with the Manhattan clan, would Nashville view Staghart as a rookery parent even though he is from another clan?


MATTHEW> While the 2014 CONvergence Radio Play isn't canon, it probably does reflect Greg's thoughts. There's a scene near the beginning where Brooklyn says that after talking it over with Katana, they do want the entire clan to be Nashville and Egwardo's parents.
Greg Bishansky - [<-----------My fics]

That's a pretty good article. I do like that the author made a point to show that neither side of parenting is inherently superior or inferior. Just different as needed for the two species.

This does bring to mind another such case though. Brooklyn, Katana and their children. We know very little about their travels and when they decided to start a family, so there's no guarantee that they had the support of other gargoyles to help raise Nashville.

Considering Katana's protectiveness of her egg I think it's safe to say that they're wandering through time and space and whatever threats they may have faced meant that the two parents needed to develop a more protective bond with their child.

Despite the fact that both of them were raised in the traditional communal family style of gargoyles circumstances may have made them step out of their comfort zone (which would make for an interesting storyline) and act more like human parents because Nashville needed parental figures while they were Time Dancing.
But these are all just guesses, thoughts?

Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

Still trying to figure out those technical issues. We'll get there, it just might take some time.

On another note, a friend of mine just wrote this essay:


"Parenting, Xenofiction, and Disney’s Gargoyles"

Greg Bishansky - [<-----------My fics]

Glad the Comment Room is back! Thanks, Gore!

I'm still around. Lurking far more than I used to. That goes for both s8 and GargWiki. One of these days, I'll be happy to put some more work into the Wiki, but I'm fairly busy these days.

The technical aspects of the Wiki are far outside my wheelhouse. Glad to hear the white background is only temporary though. I hated how it looked!

And yes, Artus hatches in two weeks!

Matt - [Saint Charles, Missouri, USA]
"For SCIENCE, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward." - Sevarius

I just realized, Artus would hatch in 2 weeks.

So, it has been a while.

I have been thinking about how to get Gargoyles noticed by a larger audience. I still think getting it on a streaming service like Netflix or Hulu would be great. I believe those companies can keep track of how many watches a show or movie get (I could be wrong). Getting a bunch of watches could get Disney to show renewed interest in Gargoyles.

I remember reading that Disney wanted their own streaming service, but was also looking to buy Hulu.


The white background does look a little off. Kind of reminds me of Wikipedia proper.
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

BISHANSKY - Glad to hear that.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

We're having trouble with the skins, but the white background is only temporary.
Greg Bishansky - [https://www dot fanfiction dot net/~gregx]

Good to have the site working again. Thanks, Gore!

Is the white background for GargWiki intended as the new background for it (as part of the changes we were talking about last week), or will it return to black background? (I preferred the original look; I thought it seemed more appropriate for a site dealing with a series about nocturnal beings, so I hope it's the latter.)

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Wonderful now everything is coming up 3's!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!

Thank you, Gore! Cheers!

And to everyone else. GargWiki is... mostly back. We have some skin issues and thumbnail issues to work work out, but the mediawiki is up to date.

Greg Bishansky - [https://www dot fanfiction dot net/~gregx]

Can we all take a SECOND and thank Gorebash for all he does to keep this place up and running?

Thanks, Gore!

Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!

The server that hosts s8.org was upgraded over the weekend along with some software that runs the site. That led to a few syntax issues with the code that runs the site, such as the captcha image not working correctly to post comments.

I'm going through and patching things as I find them. If you find anything let me know here. Thanks