[SPOILER] The Phantom Zone hasn't been said to exist outside the flow of time in this continuity (as opposed to the Krypton TV series on Syfy), just that no one ages no matter how long they're there. Therefore there's no reason to think opening it in the 21st century would somehow release versions of the cult of Zod who had experienced the 3oth century. How would Lor even get that coordinated? In fact, there'd be little point in giving the prisoners sentences of a specific length if the Zone existed outside of time; the idea is for them to experience that amount of time there (which was accidentally far exceeded because of Krypton's destruction).

Conner and Zod can communicate because it's all by thought in the Zone, Zod probably hasn't been exposed to English yet (depending on how long Kryptonians were aware of Earth before Jor-El decided it was the best place to send baby Kal). [/SPOILER]
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posted @ Sun, May 1, 2022 10:35:55 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

[SPOILER] When Conner introduces himself as Superboy, Zod's response, which looks unscripted, is just to think it's a weird name. If he'd been out of the Zone and spent many years in the 30th century he'd likely know that the Legion was inspired by Superboy. Ursa doesn't react to seeing Phantom Girl either, who would have been in the opposing force if the 30th century conflict had happened yet from her perspective. I'm pretty sure they've never been out and Lor-Zod wants to free them early. In fact, he says as much to Ma'alefa'ak and Mantis. "Why wait, when I knew the last Phantom Zone Projector was on New Genesis?" That's why he's stealing it now instead of waiting for his parents to be let out in the 30th century and (then not defeated because there's no Legion without Superboy). He's going to release the 21st century Zod and his followers, who have never been in the 30th century. [/SPOILER]
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posted @ Sun, May 1, 2022 10:28:01 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

[SPOILER] Put another way, you think Zod has already lived out his disastrous parole in the 30th century by the time Connor meets him. You think that in the Phantom Zone, he is immune to any timestream changes that Lor might already have enacted through time travel. It's possible. I don't know how we prove it one way or another given the information we currently have. [/SPOILER]
Friendly CIA Spook
We learned only too late that man is a feeling creature- and because of it, the greatest in the universe.
posted @ Sun, May 1, 2022 5:35:34 pm EDT from 71.56.248.200

[SPOILER] So my take from this is that the Zod we're seeing in the Phantom Zone isn't the one who spent the 21st century stuck in the Phantom Zone. He already got out in the 30th century, saw the birth of his son then got re-banished to the Phantom Zone.

Existing outside the flow of time does make the whole thing a bit confusing. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Sun, May 1, 2022 5:15:01 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

[SPOILER] Karrin is correct. Unless there's a big twist coming that Conner time travelled, this is the 21st century Phantom Zone, where Ursa is still pregnant with Lor-Zod. These Zod cronies haven't been freed yet and don't know who Superboy or Phantom Girl is because they've never tangled with the Legion. [/SPOILER]
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posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 11:08:28 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

[SPOILER] I think Lor's plan is to let Zod out early and make a whole new timeline, before anyone even knows about other Kryptonians, and, well, given Jason I don't think my heart could take two separate 'the Team is in mourning for someone but unbeknownst to them that someone is alive, but being manipulated by bad guys because they've lost all their memories' plotlines.

... Which, now that I think of it in those terms, could make dealing with Jason a very solid plot to run in parallel with retrieving Conner, if paced right. Although doing that would probably mean that the two mirroring arcs end in different ways, so only one would probably get to come home. [/SPOILER]
Karrin Blue
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 9:02:41 pm EDT from 68.9.91.142

This reminds me a bit of a list of creative writing hints.

Rule #1 of Writing Time Travel: Don't do it.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 8:18:53 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

Watching this morning's episode of "The Owl House", [SPOILER] the mention of the "Huntsman" - who turns out to be one of the major adversaries - reminded me of the "Hunter" opposition to the gargoyles that I'd noticed during my 25th anniversary viewing.

The revelation that King's really a Titan: a) indicates that he's in for a lot of growing - given that the one other Titan we know of was big enough to become the Boiling Isles, Ymir-style and b) offers a solution to the "Where's Luz going to get more Titan Blood to return home?" question. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 7:56:36 pm EDT from 70.176.217.135

[SPOILER] I suppose it's technically possible that Connor has been in the Zone for nearly a millennium now. With no signs of aging and no change to his surroundings, how would he be aware of the passage of time? And I do kind of suspect this arc ends with him thawing out in the Legion's time

I mean, I know my predictions don't have a great track record but still [/SPOILER]
Friendly CIA Spook
We learned only too late that man is a feeling creature- and because of it, the greatest in the universe.
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 7:49:25 pm EDT from 71.56.248.200

[SPOILER] Hold on, I assumed this was the Phantom Zone in the 21st century - so Zod and co hadn't been paroled yet, from their perspective. I know it exists outside of time, but I figured that was mostly to do with them persisting in the moment they were tossed in. Unless it's more like an archive, and future!Zod being put back in overwrote the 'previous' Zod?

....time travel makes everything confusing. [/SPOILER]
Karrin Blue
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 5:42:28 pm EDT from 68.9.91.142

CIA> [SPOILER] It was established that Zod and the other Kryptonians spent some time in the 30th century before being sent back into the Phantom Zone. Chances are they learned Interlac in that time if they didn't know it already. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 4:44:01 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

Well, we've already got Vandal Savage, so a little Titus Andronicus might not be out of the question while we're about it.

"BIRTHDAYS! LOVE AFFAIRS! ALL TRIVIAL! OF NO IMPORT!" I mean he's being a jerk but he's not wrong.

Oh, no, a Son Eater! See, should have planned ahead and brought some Daughters along.

Also something occurred to me: [SPOILER] Phantom Zone inhabitants can communicate mind-to-mind, basically, but once he gets out (I'm sorry, I meant "if," of course), is Zod going to be speaking Kryptonese? I don't think there's any way he could learn English in the Zone, and so far this show has been pretty scrupulous about avoiding the "Rigellian Is Exactly Like English" trope. [/SPOILER]

So long and thanks for everything, Neal Adams
Friendly CIA Spook
We learned only too late that man is a feeling creature- and because of it, the greatest in the universe.
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 2:28:21 pm EDT from 71.56.248.200

I'm half-expecting there to be some kind of plot where Perdita has to hide her identity before returning to reclaim her throne, just for the Winter's Tale reference. Maybe that'll happen in Targets, who knows.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Sat, Apr 30, 2022 11:53:24 am EDT from 68.9.91.142

Todd> Perdita actually originates from a Green Arrow character showcase short (written by Greg) that came out a a little bit before Young Justice premiered. But maybe he had that sort of thing in mind when mapping out "Coldhearted."
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 10:30:39 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

RIP, Neal Adams.
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posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 10:02:15 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

Well, that's a way to end an episode...

[SPOILER] Originally I was going to have a thing here about not being sure if we were supposed to think Halo had requested Rocket and Forager not out them as nonbinary to the people at the summit, or if Rocket had forgotten, or somesuch, but turns out it was just a mistake. It really is too bad it's so hard to fix things like that in animation; one thing I appreciate in comics and print is that, as long as your publisher's willing to let you fix stuff, you can tweak wordings and typos if you absolutely have to later. I remember reading the writer notes for Wicked and the Divine and occasionally having notes about stuff that got past editors and would be fixed for the trade copy. Oh well.

So Lor, Mantis, and M'Comm are having fun, I see. Honestly I'm surprised that, after they saw Metron get a red ring out of a box with the Red Corps logo on it, none of them thought to just check for boxes with Krypton's shield on it. It still wouldn't lead them to the projector right away, but at least they could skip past all the unmarked ones. Mantis got there in the end, at least - and it was nice to see him be more than their dumb muscle. I also was interested to see that Lor doesn't know about the baby swap, and seems almost offended at a son 'betraying' their father. I'll talk more about Zod's little cult at the end, but, wow Lor must have been indoctrinated hard. I still feel pretty bad for him - his actions are terrible, but like Cassandra, he must've grown up in an environment of total control that he's very much a product of.

I also was interested to see how the summit's going, before it was rather dramatically interrupted by Metron. Oh Rocket, if only you'd actually asked a follow up question about that morning. I get why she didn't, of course, but it probably would've pre-empted some problems. I do wonder if Rocket is going to realize that, because she never actually talked to Orion, when he retracted the request for Halo's presence, that was purely because he respected the argument even though it came from someone he wasn't getting along with. He knew it was a good point, regardless of personal issues.

And speaking of personal issues... darn, this is what I get for procrastinating, I meant to write a lot of this earlier in the week and kept putting it off. Oh well. So, Garfield. Like I said the other week, I actually appreciate a lot of what they're doing here, and it mostly has to do with what kind of depressed person we, as a society, find acceptable. By and large - and this isn't just about media representation, this is about real humans - most of our sympathy goes towards people who are suffering artistically, and sympathetically, sad people trying to soldier on tragically while minor-key piano music plays in the background. But depression and trauma very often can make people act like jerks, and that's where our sympathy tends to end. One of the most difficult things for people to balance when those they love are going through this kind of thing is seeing just how much of someone's behavior stems from a truly awful thing they're going through, and that behavior harming them back, and I read a lot of what's happened with Garfield so far as an exploration of that, as well as how knowledge isn't enough on its own. Because that's also one of the tropes - that if someone is acting out because they've been hurt, they don't know that that's why, and if you can explain it to them, and they know that it's a real problem that help exists for, then that solves the issue. But knowing you're in a pit, being able to rattle off its width and depth and what kind of ladder you'd need to climb out, doesn't actually give you the ladder.

So, Garfield. Actor, hero, needs at least two hands to count all the deaths of people he cared about before he hits voting age. And he's very, very familiar with trauma and how he's always gotten out of it - he's bounced back before! He knows how this works. But suddenly, for no sensible reason, the ways he's always gotten out of it aren't working. He's exhausted, and nothing's working. He can't fall asleep, and when he finally manages to he's just as tired as if he'd never slept at all. And that is, genuinely, a gruelling thing to go through - that feeling of just being worn down and the one thing that's supposed to fix it doesn't? It's miserable, and it's also a very common trait for depression, and that kind of exhaustion and frustration builds up. Not just physical exhaustion, mental too - the feeling that everything is just going to stay awful forever, and you're always going to keep losing people and keep failing, and nothing will get better. And that exhaustion wears away at your ability to just deal with life, or people. That's why depression is so often a vicious cycle; connections and a support network are absolutely critical to recovering, but that exhaustion makes dealing with people, dealing with responsibilities, feel absolutely draining, so people withdraw in the hopes it'll conserve what little energy they have. And it doesn't, and the problem spirals. That's why the gang is so concerned about Gar quitting his job, and the Outsiders, and breaking up with Perdita; it's not that they're particularly fixated on him dating someone or being an actor or being a hero, it's that these are the most obvious warning signs of a problem he's not dealing with and won't let them in to help with.

The problem for Gar, currently neck-deep in broken dopamine receptors, is that as much as he wants to withdraw, his friends have also been going to the mental health sessions, and they know exactly why he's doing this. More to the point, they know that not only will it not get better on its own, but there's probably a significant fear that it will get worse; to be blunt, Garfield's behavior here has been very consistent with someone who's considering suicide. It's been my read on Garfield for a while that even if he hasn't been actively planning an attempt, it's in his subconscious, under the surface, and even if that's not true for him, I expect it's something the Team are very worried about. And one of my big reasons for thinking that is the intervention scene from a few episodes ago. Withdrawing can happen not just because interacting with people, being needed is exhausting, but - sometimes - because someone is already resigned to their own death. Why drag it out, and why drag other people in? Better to disappear out of their lives - but if they won't let you, then one option is to make them leave you. Disdain them, insult them, say whatever hurtful things you don't mean, because if they give up on you then you'll be left alone, and then when you die (says depression brain) it won't hurt them as badly.

Unfortunately, that also didn't work for him. Because as much as he wants to just be left alone, he still doesn't want to be kicked off the Outsiders, and he can probably tell the whole 'drive them away' routine isn't going to work. So he changes tactics. He figures, OK, if they won't leave him be because they're worried, he just has to make them not worry. Act normal, play things out, get them off high alert. He plays the role of the penitent patient to Black Canary like he rehearsed it; every line he says about how he was a total jerk and he'll have to apologize is exactly what he 'should' be saying. Again, he knows how trauma works, he'll mime his way through it for the session, and that'll be that. And Dinah knows that too - everything she says prompting him for her 'checklist' is because she knows that's how he's trying to play it, she's letting him get through his prepared lines and fall into a rhythm, to get him to let his guard down. And... it works. He says more than he means to, and she keeps him talking, until we get to him talking about all the anger and hopelessness he's been keeping locked up, and with everything on the table and out in the open - not just in the back of his head as something he's tiredly aware of - he can see the contradictions, and can ask for help.

(As a sidenote - there seems to be some confusion over the drugs Garfield is taking in the ask queue? Some people sent in questions as though he's on opiates, or something, but he's taking over-the-counter sleep meds. Those are basically just Benadryl. You're not likely to OD on them, the real issue is that they're not at all a solution to the problem he's having. Treating depression insomnia like it's just a sleeping problem means not recognizing what the real problem is, and that's why the characters are so concerned about it even though they're quite safe - that and, if someone is insisting on treating the problem as though it's just jetlag, and that doesn't work, they might get desperate and try seeking out stronger medications. And those actually would be dangerous. But over-the-counter sleep aids are quite safe, and very helpful to many people who actually have the problem they're for, instead of untreated depression.)

... OK I think that's everything I wanted to say on Gar's mental state. Though I reserve the right to add more later. Anyways, last thing is Zod's weird little cult. Poor Conner - I hope he'll get rattled out of it as soon as the others come to rescue him, but for the time being he's in a rough spot. I have a feeling Zod is the kind of person who takes the BITE cult list and treats it like a to-do checklist. The thing I find most interesting - and creepy - is that chant; like he says, they're only able to physically interact with things through willpower... so him making "Do this for me" the mantra they use to channel that willpower and focus it is some very effective brainwashing, the kind that works because you do it over and over and over again until it's second nature. Once again I'm feeling bad for Lor-Zod; seriously, the kid's kind of a jerk but if this is the environment he was raised in then it's not the least bit surprising.

Last minute stuff, I really liked that Tomar-Re feels responsible for Krypton; it's a good detail and I love when it's remembered. Also, Matthew, I could see your prediction for Nightwing's arc panning out; at this point I feel like it's 50-50 on whether we'll get Jason's situation or if that'll be left yet again. If it is dealing with Brion, I hope that's where we'll get Tara and Halo being heroes; Artemis' arc had a lot of cross-pollination with the batfamily stuff, so it'd be interesting if Nightwing's picked up the plotlines for Artemis' non-Arrowfamily students. I do like that the heroes aren't so siloed, each off in their own corners, so more of that could be neat. Plus I think we really need a plotline where Halo can shine, literally and figuratively, after they haven't had much to do this go-around.
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Karrin Blue
posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 9:40:53 pm EDT from 68.9.91.142

I've sometimes wondered whether the manner of Perdita's introduction in the first season counted as a Shakespeare reference, if a more subtle one; it's right in the middle of a continent-wide snowstorm, and the original Perdita came from the play "The Winter's Tale".
Todd Jensen
posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 8:46:24 pm EDT from 70.176.217.135

Sad news, Neal Adams the co-creator of characters like Ra's al Ghul, John Stewart and Man-Bat has passed away at the age of 80.
Most importantly I'd argue, was his work in advocating for creator's rights, an on-going problem even to this day. He helped Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster receive the proper credit and money they were owed for the creation of Superman.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/neal-adams-dead-dies-comic-book-artist-1235254617/
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 5:38:24 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

The wheelbarrow makes me think of Mr Robot.
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posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 2:54:04 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

Mostly Off-topic, but there's a new Monopoly token vote.

For those familiar, tokens have been added and removed from the standard-edition of the game since the forties, but fan voting has been an off-and-on thing since 1998.

Coincidentally to Young Justice, the 2017 vote retired the Wheelbarrow, Shoe, and Thimble -- the exact tokens used in the title for issue #20 of Young Justice: Invasion, Players. This new fan vote is intended to retire one of eight tokens in the current rotation with one of six possible throw-backs.

Personally, I'm a Thimble fan. d: https://www.monopolytokenvote.com/en-us
Phoenician
Gus: "I always forget you're there." Hooty: "I forget I'm here toooooo."
posted @ Fri, Apr 29, 2022 10:12:14 am EDT from 72.216.220.229

[SPOILER] One thing I forgot to mention was Lor finding what almost certainly is the Emerald Eye of Ekron. Considering its use by the Emerald Empress, I wonder if we'll be seeing the Fatal Five some time in future. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 11:57:20 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

[SPOILER] “Earth Hive has not experienced Shakespeare until Earth Hive has read Shakespeare in the original Bug.” [/SPOILER]
Algae
"People get built different. We don't need to figure it out, we just need to respect it." - Princess Bubblegum
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 3:14:49 pm EDT from 217.183.44.235

[SPOILER] Superboy is almost naked because the bomb incinerated his clothes. [/SPOILER]
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posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 12:24:38 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

[SPOILER] I'm not sure about this mental health plotline with Beast Boy. They've all being REALLY hard on Beast Boy. Him abusing sleeping pills is one thing, but they seem really intent on whether or not he's in a relationship with Perdita, or whether he's fighting crime. Canary seems a bit more in a good position to help him than M'gann was, though. Also this plotline has been a REALLY slow burn, so it's nice to finally get this payoff. To be honest, this scene got me really emotional.
-Zod as a fascist was pretty well done. The chant was great, made me think of Prince of Egypt.
-Why is Superboy almost naked?
-The time travel stuff here is a bit loopy and hard to follow. I supposed this is why Greg prefers paradox-free time travel stories. They're just easier to follow. [/SPOILER]
Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 11:48:15 am EDT from 65.95.86.37

Space (more specifically the galaxy) *IS* big, but we're also talking about one section of it, and we're talking about a major galaxy-ending threat that would... probably catch the guy with the massive space weapon's attention. So maybe GLTAS season 2 happened entirely before the end of YJ S2.
Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 11:07:20 am EDT from 65.95.86.37

Masterdramon> Ah. Still waiting on the finale for Helluva Boss and for any announcement for Hazbin. Incidentally, I've been interacting with Edward Bosco (Alastor) over on Twitch for some time now. I want to say he's a nice guy but he does have that Chicago intensity if you know what I mean, especially when it comes to sports.

[SPOILER] Forgot to mention we finally got a Shakespeare reference. But since it was Romeo and Juliet I've got a bad feeling it's going to end badly for Forager. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 7:18:51 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

Matthew: I "discovered" it a great deal of time ago, LOL. The quote in my signature was added because I cosplayed as Charlie at the local anime convention "Kawaii Kon" this past weekend. First con I've gotten to go to since COVID started, and by Rao have I missed them.

Also, [SPOILER] got absolute chills from the House of Zod work song/chant. And of course a Greg-penned episode would end with Forager and Forager doing Bug-adapted Shakespeare. [/SPOILER]
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Inside of every demon is a rainbow." - Charlie Magne
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 4:47:15 am EDT from 98.150.138.224

Masterdramon> I was actually thinking of that quote when I did my last post. And it looks like you've also discovered the macabre magnificence that is Hazbin Hotel.

Anyway, my thoughts on Episode 20 "Forbidden Secrets of Civilizations Past!"

[SPOILER] So I was right that Black Canary was going to have get Gar to at least experience a catharsis by suggesting that it was his fault that Conner died, though a little less forcefully than I imagined. At the very least the healing process can properly begin and Gar's dropped the obnoxious attitude he's had for the last two arcs.

So, folks here called it that Tomar-Re feels responsible for the destruction of Krypton. Interesting detail that he also personally knew the heads of El, usually Krypton is treated as a bit of an isolationist. I do like the cosmic world building we've had, the Green, Red and Blue Lanterns and now a Sun-Eater. Makes me wonder what else might pop up.

Well with the break-in at Metron's Vault we might finally get all three factions working together, which is good. But now Mantis, and by extension Lor, has the Phantom Zone Projector, which is bad. On the other hand this could very well be how Conner and Phantom Girl get out of the Zone, but this would also lead to the invasion of Zod and his followers. Plus Conner has now fallen under the sway of Zod and his cult of personality. Going to take a lot of work to get him off-mode.

With Rocket's arc about to conclude, there's going to be one last twist I'm sure and then it's off to Nightwing. I have the sneaking suspicion that with all the talk about setting up a reserve Justice League, Nightwing's arc is going to be about trying to negotiate with Brion and his metas. Possibly having an alliance of convenience once the invasion of Zod begins. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 4:11:13 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space, listen..." - Douglas Adams
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Inside of every demon is a rainbow." - Charlie Magne
posted @ Thu, Apr 28, 2022 12:26:24 am EDT from 98.150.138.224

[SPOILER] It was also established that Aya was wiping out star systems that were devoid of life, showing that while she had gone rogue after bonding with the Anti-Monitor, she wasn't past the point of no return.

I figure in geographical comparison it would be like wiping away chunks of the Gobi Desert or the Kalahari. The missing pieces would be noticed, but it wouldn't exactly be a huge loss of life. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Wed, Apr 27, 2022 7:22:00 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

[SPOILER] Did GL:TAS ever give an official count of how many star systems Aya destroyed? Our Galaxy alone contains AT LEAST 100 billion stars. Aya could easily wipe out a million and no one on Earth would ever notice. [/SPOILER]
Algae
"People get built different. We don't need to figure it out, we just need to respect it." - Princess Bubblegum
posted @ Wed, Apr 27, 2022 5:25:08 pm EDT from 217.183.44.235

[SPOILER] Okay, I finished GL:TAS. Pretty good show. A lot better than I expected. So I just thought I'd theorize on a timeline of what did and didn't happen in the YJ version of GL:TAS.

2000: Hal Jordan gains a Green Power ring.
2007: John Stewart gains a Green Power ring.
Team Year 4-5: I guess this is when the bulk of the GL:TAS stuff would take place. Obviously the timeline of Green Lanterns joining is totally different. Guy probably wasn't a replacement for Hal, and John couldn't really be a replacement for Guy. But I imagine the broad facts of the Red Lantern Corps invasion and the Manhunter incident probably happened. Hal led Razer, Aya and Kilowog into space to investigate and battle these threats. I feel like the Red Lantern Corps invasion being before YJ season 2 makes sense, with the Manhunter stuff being during/after makes sense too. Since most of the Red Lantern stuff only involved Oa. And the Manhunter stuff was only briefly on earth. I'm... not sure about Aya going rogue and wiping out entire systems. That seems like a weirdly enormous thing for YJ to just... not acknowledge at all. So maybe that part was less of a big deal in YJ? Maybe the entirety of GL:TAS took place while John was deterred on Rimbor?
I imagine the Blue Lantern corps was still founded by Spirit Walker and his compatriots.
I think maybe all the stuff with Carol Ferris still happened? Probably her first Star Sapphire experience was before her appearance in season 2. With the second being afterward.
It's actually not really as complicated as I thought it would be. [/SPOILER]
Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!
posted @ Wed, Apr 27, 2022 2:13:25 pm EDT from 65.95.86.37

For a while there the website wasn't loading. Glad it popped up before Thursday.
Matthew
When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin--tell them CARL SAGAN sent you.
posted @ Wed, Apr 27, 2022 5:00:29 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

So the title for the next episode has been revealed a bit earlier than the others; [SPOILER] “Forbidden Secrets of Civilizations Past!” [/SPOILER]
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posted @ Wed, Apr 27, 2022 3:15:33 am EDT from 104.228.162.16

Did you see/like the Hannukah episode of Elena of Avalor as well?
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posted @ Mon, Apr 25, 2022 8:13:48 pm EDT from 104.228.162.16

Yeah, I enjoyed that one a lot, though I haven't seen much else of the show.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Mon, Apr 25, 2022 6:17:29 pm EDT from 68.9.91.142

I remember Karrin Blue speaking highly of the Hanukkah episode.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Apr 25, 2022 8:34:10 am EDT from 70.176.217.135

One post with two cents.

So Amphibia, The Owl House and the not too long ago ended DuckTales 2017 are well regarded here.

How about The Ghost and Molly McGee overall with all but a handful of it's first season left before even more?

Really good so far. Want to keep the discussion positive, but yeah I am going to say that hopefully Disney isn't done with serialized animated shows. But given the main show of interest we obviously didn't expect the shows mentioned above. Even Disney Junior had Sofia the First and Elena of Avalor going more into serialized story telling, well more the latter.

It's not merely an episodic comedy like say Animaniacs, so as it is, I definitely think it is shaping up to be a perfect way to do a show of it's genre for lack of a better description.

[SPOILER] So in short, good dynamic between Molly & Scratch and more unexpectedly so.

As for why emphasis it's episodic nature? Doesn't have anything in the vein of an arc connecting the episodes, but managing to get around that with developments occurring with the cast more than expected.

Scratch developing into a good friend of Molly with less of the pretense that he cares about her and appreciates being part of the McGee? Happened as the first half of the season ended. Libby finding out about Scratch and them becoming friend as well? Happened before the last segments of episode for Season 1A.

As with Molly learning of the Flow of Failed Phantoms, the Ghost Council and that they could take her ghost bestie? Still a handful of episodes left with that all occurring within the season thus far. [/SPOILER]

Stronger continuity than one might expect.
[SPOILER] Friend-Off: The scavenger hunt Scratch and Libby go on relating to their past moments with Molly. Even Scratch bringing up the bats at her Bat Mitzvah and claiming it was Molly's idea.

A Very Hungry Ghost: Molly, Darryl and Grandma Nin preparing food for the Thai festival Sart Duan Sib. For ancestors and other hungry ghosts. With some of said ghosts being ones encountered previously.

And a bit prior to, Innocent Until Proven Ghostly: Molly has to prove that Scratch didn't eat/steal a cake made by her dad (Pete), which seems impossible after finding ectoplasm. But after Pete mentions putting extra carob into the cake, Molly is able to prove Scratch's innocent by demonstrating that yes, he has an allergy to carob.

In the very first episode Molly offers Scratch a granola bar which he accepts if it doesn't have any, carob. [/SPOILER]
Antiyonder
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