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Heck, now that I remember it in the book "American Gods" Wednesday lists of the number of spells he knows in groups of nine. [SPOILER] Which makes sense considering he's secretly Odin. [/SPOILER]
Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

Off-Topic, but as we tend to be fans of a series decades, old, has any watched or depending if you share my time zone, watching the Hey Arnold Jungle Movie? You know another 90s cartoon that left us want more or in this case a planned final movie?

But minor tidbit, one of the early voices of Arnold (specifically in a theatrical version of the episode 24 Hours to Live) was J.D. Daniels. Voice of the young versions of Tom, Luach and Malcolm Canmore.

Antiyonder

Yes, there are several nines in Norse mythology. The nine worlds, most of all. Heimdall, the watchman of Asgard, was said to have nine mothers (and I don't even want to know how that happened). Aegir, the god of the sea, had nine daughters. Odin hung from a branch of Yggdrasil for nine days and nine nights to learn its secrets.

The number turns up in other mythologies as well. The nine Muses, for example. And Tartarus (the nastiest part of the Greek Underworld, where the chief enemies of the gods were imprisoned) was described as so far below the earth that it would take a falling anvil nine days to reach its bottom. (Which image, by the way, reveals that Loonie Toons didn't invent the concept of the falling anvil - though they did turn it into a staple of cartoon slapstick.)

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Nine is a recurring number in Norse mythology. There's a reason it shows up frequently in "The Lord of the Rings" considering how much of it is based on Norse myth.
Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

It seems like prime numbers like three, seven, and thirteen come up more often in mythology. Maybe prime numbers are considered more magical, and composite numbers like ten are more logical.

I'd guess that's also why JK Rowling used prime numbers in the Knut to Sickle to Galleon conversion in the Harry Potter series. (She may not be that interested in math, but I'm pretty sure she knew that 29 and 17 are prime numbers.)

Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

Does anyone else think it's weird that Ten doesn't seem to show up as much as a particularly significant number in fiction/mythology/religion/occultism/whatever despite us basing our entire system of math on it?
Algernon
I guard your death

For those living in the states, Happy Thanksgiving! May your dinner conversations be friendly rather than uncomfortable.
Nice choice for the countdown Masterdramon.

Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

"Think of it: Five years ago, no one had ever heard of Bajor or Deep Space Nine. And now all our hopes rest here."
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"A new tradition and an old power will cross...to open the door to the unseen world." - Diana Cavendish

I have nothing clever to say about the number eight, but I believe it's mine.
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

ROSS - Thanks for the information about Yolande of Aragon. I'll have to reread the books I have involving Joan of Arc to see if they mentioned her (since the name wasn't familiar to me, I must have forgotten her, if they did).
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Seventh!

If I could jump back to last week's topic for a moment, I've recently had some thoughts about Joan of Arc in the Gargoyles universe as well.

Earlier this year I was reading a book called Rejected Princesses by Jason Porath; in its entry on Joan of Arc, there was a lot about another woman involved in her story: Yolande of Aragon. The mother-in-law of Charles VII, she was apparently the one responsible for Joan gaining access to the king in the first place (young women claiming to be speaking messages from God apparently not being all that uncommon around that time - Joan was just the one saying what Yolande wanted the king to hear), and potentially even behind the existence of the so-called prophecy that Joan was to fulfill (said prophecy originated from one of the provinces Yolande ruled). She had already gathered the armies Joan would lead, but that Charles didn't want to use without confirmation that God was on his side, confirmation that Joan provided. Then, after Joan's trial and execution, she took advantage of the friction which that had created between the English and their French allies to turn said allies against the English, which would eventually be a factor in the ending of the Hundred Years War, and (to use Porath's words) preventing France from becoming a member of the "Non-Existent States Club". The entry spoke of how Yolande "shaped Europe's lines of succession for decades through her skillful, stealthy diplomacy," and how "because of her intense secrecy, even now her influence on events can often only be inferred."

And as I read about her, I found myself thinking... working behind the scenes to manipulate events that would have huge historical ramifications? Being so covert about it that today we still can't know for sure how far her influence spread?

Maybe in the Gargoyles universe, Yolande of Aragon was sporting a certain pyramid/eye symbol somewhere on her person...

Ross

And I'll take a sixth.
Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

I'll take a fifth.
Spen

FOUR!!!! (4th) is the best.
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]

Third.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Now THAT non-violent assertion I'll second.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!

First!
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka