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Vanity writes...
William Cain writes...
In the episode "Temptation", Goliath is placed under the a spell that makes him a slave to whom
Ever holds the Grimorum. OK. (A few point then my question and hopefully an answer.)
Point 1.The confines of the spell were that he would obey whoever held the book.
Point 2. In order to free Goliath from the zombie like state Elisa told him to act as is he was not placed under the magic spell.
Point 3. Demona took the actual counter spell.
I just don't feel that her having him act normal would cancel the effects of the magic as for him running around like a zombie yes but not the magic control its self but… I will leave that to you.
My question is if Demona was to take the book again could she take control over Goliath once more or are the effects of the spell no more?
Thank you for your Time
William Cain
Greg responds...
Here are my points:
1. Whoever held the spell. Not the book. At the end, Elisa was holding the spell.
2. Demona did not have the counterspell. She took other spells, like the one to summon Puck.
3. After Elisa issued her command, I'm betting they destroyed the spell. But who knows? (Well, I do. But I'm not telling.)
recorded on 08-30-01
Okay here is my thoughts,
How is a spell a tangible anything? How can you hold a spell?
-a spell is- a spoken word or form of words held or entrusted to have magic powers : The book or page that a spell is written on, isn't it just that a book or a page that has a spell written on it? What makes the paper or the book special? Couldn't any book or paper with a spell written on it be somehow endowed with the ability to flow with magic?
If Demona knows word for word the spell and wrote it on a legal pad (just as a reminder) couldn't she read it and being that she can channel magic be able to cast that spell?
Elisa holding the page to break the spell was quite a strectch of reason for me. Even though magic is quite illogical in the nature of itself. Gargoyles handled magic quite realistically. You said that you knew but wouldn't tell if the spell was broken but you revealed you think that most likely it would be. I do not see how the spell would be broken. He is still under the spell. But the spell is masked by itself acting as if it wasn't controlling him, allowing him to controll himself. Yet if Demona were to grab that spell and commanded the spell to stop masking itself, by the terms of the spell it should have to comply. It only makes sense.
Greg responds...
The piece of paper with the spell on it. The Page. Not the book. That's the point, I was making as I believe you understand. And what makes that page special is the terms of the (verbal) spell itself. The spell (verbal) wanted to give the spell-caster a means of holding and/or transferring control of the slave. By giving that control to the person who held the document, the spell defined its own terms.
And no, I never said that the spell was broken or at least never meant to. I was referring to the page. And whether or not that page was destroyed, i.e. whether or not this paper control device could fall into the wrong hands, so to speak.
Finally, as I've noted before. You cannot simply read a spell and do magic. Becoming a spell caster takes years of practice. It's not just the words. It's about conduits and hand motions and control of emotion and thought and concentration. The caster is manipulating energies. The words are only a piece of the puzzle. Can't do the spell without them. But having the words on a legal pad isn't sufficient.
Elisa cannot do mortal magic. Neither can Goliath or Xanatos or even Owen when he's Owen. No training.
Aaron writes...
If Oberon were to be killed, or even removed from rulership of Avalon, would the third race be freed from his Law, or not? (I know this seems like a "duh" question, but I thought I'd ask and be sure)
Greg responds...
It depends on who takes over.
Cha-cha writes...
1.Who created the Pray Gargoyle?
2.Were they human or gargoyle?
3.What was it's original purpose?
Greg responds...
1. The Atlanteans.
2. Human, largely.
3. To protect their allies, the Gargoyles.
dan writes...
hey greg,
since halloween is coming soon, i've decided to make a grimorum for my costume and put some of the spells in it. But besides that, i'm curios. were and how exactly did you come up with the latin spells and poems? did you bring a latin team in to make all the spells? Who thought up the poems? Did they actually get some of the latin spells actually from old spell books that you might have heard about?
Greg responds...
It's been a long time, and I know I've answered this question before, so you may want to check the archives for a response that was made when events were fresher in my memory.
But briefly -- no, of course, we didn't take the spells from real spell books. We made up the spells in English and then my story editors went to various sources for a translation. From what I've been told since, our sources were not that great, and there are mistakes in the Latin for almost every spell ripped from the Grimorum. Deslagrate for Deflagrate, I think was one example of an error.
(As far as I know, the Hebrew spells from "GOLEM" were correct. Not in a magic sense, but in a translation sense. Hebrew, being an ancient but still living language, was easier going for an accurate translation.)
We had better luck with the spells of the Children of Oberon, which could be in English, as long as they rhymed. Some of the rhymes are pathetic -- but even that adds to the fun, I think. As for who came up with them, it was either the writer on the individual episode, the story editor or me. (Or some combination.)
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Galvatron writes...
1.Just curious how can the Stone of Destiny talk? Can we assume that the stone couldn't talk? If so then who gave it the ability to talk?
2. Who gave it its other abilities including the ability to teleport people?
Greg responds...
1 & 2. You heard it talk, so it's a safe assumption it was talking. Beyond that, I'd rather not say. You're assumption that someone else gave it the power of speech, etc. is not a safe one, though I'm not saying it's innacurate.
Galvatron writes...
Happy New Year
Magic questions
1.Can Golem, Talos, Coyote or the other science/magical based AI in the Gargoyles Universe use the Phoenix Gate, Eye of Odin or Grimorum?
2.What about Cagney or the Loch Ness monsters? Does the Eye of Odin work on them?
3.In one of your old posts you said there was a kind of magic called telikinetics so what is it?
Greg responds...
1. Theoretically.
2. Potentially.
3. Are you asking me to define telekinesis?
Gipdac writes...
I was just reading the FAQ, and came across this
"During the time of Caesar Augustus, gargoyles would come to his court, and when they awoke at night their clothes would be torn to shreds. Augustus was a man of strong "family values," and in AD 10, he had a powerful mage (the original Magus) cast a Spell of Humility on the race. As a result, anything they considered "theirs" would turn to stone with them if they were in physical contact with it at sunrise."
Okay, but in The Mirror Hudson (I think) said you have to both hear and see magic. Dose this mean that the entire gargoyles race was in at the casting of the Spell of Humility and was in Rome? (I guessing the Magus cast the spell in Rome)
Greg responds...
Most magic has that requirement, but some spells are more powerful. Particularly when you combine the Grimorum with the Eye of Odin and the Phoenix Gate.
Galvatron writes...
1.You've said that there was someone prior to the archmage who joined together the grimorum, phoenix gate and eye of odin so when did this happen?
2.How did he integrate the grimorum into it? I know he didn't swallow it.
3.What did he do with the power?
Greg responds...
1. Not saying.
2. That was only necessary for our Archmage because he was entering Avalon.
3. Entertaining stuff, I tell you.
Entity writes...
Hi Greg,
1. Where do you suppose Macbeth acquired the Will-O-The-Wisp he used in "Pendragon"? b. Had he had it in his possession for long?
2. Are they still around in some abundancy, or was the one Macbeth had a definite rarity?
3. They don't seem to be sentient, but they do as they are instructed, and possess sensory abilities, right? Do they possess cognitive abilities as well?
4. Where did the Will-O-The-Wisp evolve from, Earth or Avalon (acknowledging that the two are linked)?
5. If the answer to No. 4 is Earth, what caused the Third Race to assume Avalon? b. If the answer to No. 4 is Avalon, were the Will-O-The-Wisps able to then go in between Avalon and Earth?
6. Did the Will-O-The-Wisps possess any kind of community?
7. We know the Third Race is the youngest, but what about the Will-O-The-Wisps? Do they predate gargoyles?
Thank ya.
Greg responds...
1. There's a story in that, I'm sure.
2. Relatively rare. But not unique.
3. Everything's relative, right?
4. Probably Avalon. (But I think you have some prepostion confusion in there.
5. Yes, clearly. Since the only one you ever saw wasn't on Avalon.
6. You need to view them as the magical equivalents of what humans call animals (when they aren't including themselves). In that context, many animal species have communities of a sort.
7. Maybe. Probably. Haven't thought about it.
matt's boyfriend writes...
Why didn't Alisa ever get to learn any magic? or any of the gargoyles?
*matt adds that its Elisa, not Alisa*
Greg responds...
No aptitude. Not their style. Not that easy. Etc.
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