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Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Sevarious' descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
Not saying at this time.
While I'm thinking of it....
Behold the following exchange (then skip to the bottom):
Received from pc-17.di.uoa.gr on Monday, September 17, 2001 04:52:03 AM
Aris Katsaris writes...
'kay, you were in your Disney office and couldn't answer this the last time I asked it, so you told me to repost it... Here goes:
<g> Another timeline thingy - this time less of a question though and more of a possible correction (unless I'm missing something)...
You recently said that Tom, Katherine and Magus entered Avalon on September 28th 995. But we also know that the eggs would normally hatch on the spring equinox (about March 21st) of 998. This means that there normally remained 2 and 1/2 years for the eggs to hatch... This time they spent on Avalon.
You can probably see where I'm going... Multiply by 24, and we see that they had to spent 60 years (Earth time) on Avalon. This takes them all the way to 995+60 = 1055.
Obviously the closest "20-year circle of the earth" was 1058... Quite near by. So why did you have them hatch on 1078, 20 years later, instead?
I don't think I've made any errors with the math... :-)
Greg responds...
The eggs were laid in 988. From 988 until 995 (seven out of the normal ten years for gestation) time passed normally. That means they needed @three more years to hatch once they arrived on Avalon. One year on Avalon equals 24 in the real world, as you noted. 3 x 24 = 72. 995 + 72 puts us at 1067. Making the closest twenty year cycle at 1078, as I noted.
You're calculations assume two and a half years instead of three to hatch. And that makes sense given the dates listed. The obvious dopey answer is that I was not calculating to the month but to the year. And so I could acknowledge the mistake and redo everything. And maybe on my next pass through the timeline, I'll do just that.
But to be honest, maybe I won't. When dealing with Avalon's mysterious flow of time, I believe my calculations are close enough. If the eggs weren't ready until March of 1059 even, then I'm still correct -- so it's not quite as big an error as it appears at first glance. Four years passing in the real world represents only two months on Avalon. Perhaps all that traveling and magic, etc. set the eggs back just a bit. If it set them back two months, then I'm right, and they're just slightly late bloomers.
And yes, I'm making excuses. So I'll save this exchange and decide at a later date.
For now, I'm sticking with my current calculations.
recorded on 03-04-02
With all this in mind...
I know I've established -- both here and in my own head (particularly with regards to G2198) that eggs hatch on the Spring Equinox.
But does anyone remember whether (and where) I've established what month the eggs are laid in?
I can't recall if this has come up yet.
Anyone know? And would this solve my problems at all?
Gipdac writes...
You said that in your mind Zaphiro of 2198 is blue,
1) Do you have colors planed out for Samson and Delilah?
2) If so, what color do you have planed for Samson?
3) If so, what color do you have planed for Delilah?
Greg responds...
1,2,3. Eh. Not so much. For starters, I'm color-blind. And B. I don't like to hamstring artists with arbitrary decisions fixed in my mind in advance. Zafiro, I'd like to make Blue, because Zafiro means Sapphire. And since we did the color against type thing once, I'd like to try the other way this time. But I'm not making my mind up about the others.
Justin writes...
Greg,
Do you know if Artus, Gwenyvere, and Lancelot will have mates? If so, I highly doubt any rookery in the Manhattan clan will be large enough to support multiple gargoyles pairing up, even by 2058 ( which correct me if I am wrong is Lance's birth year)
So will they mate outside of the clan?
Thanks
Greg responds...
Not answering this at this time.
Justin writes...
Greg,
Sorry I only asked about eight of the twelve clans.
Do you know the names of any or all of the twelve clan leaders in 2198? If so, what are they?
Greg responds...
I know some, not all. But I'm not telling at this time.
Galvatron writes...
Last question from the galactic view would the Space-Spawn occupation of Earth and it eventual rebellion be an important event in the intergalactic war?
Greg responds...
Not initially.
puck<40> writes...
You know that comment one of those peepers made about Oberon's children and fear of death etc? I found it very very interesting. It makes me wonder just a little about Puck. Now I know your not him... But considering most of the gargoyles characters share a little of your own opinion...
1) Do you think Puck had any sort of 'rude awakening' mortality feeling in City of Stone since he almost shattered? I'm sure Xanatos would've probably mentioned it.
2) Or... do you think Puck is more of a "what happens happens" type of person? (one of the reasons he didn't really care too too much in "The Price" about his hand)
3) Personally I think that he's one of those 'always out to experience new things' type of persons, and mayyyybe at first it would just been like. "Le meeps! For a second there I was almost not able to have fun." And when mayyyybe Oberon limited his powers, himself to the mortal form, and exiled he might've been. "uh oh, this really isn't too good... nuts".
Of course! Maybe it doesn't actually hit him, until 2198 when Alex vanishes and he has no outlet to turn back into Puck. In essence leaving him in a possibly permanent mortal form. Because up until then, he always had a sense of immortality to him.
4) Do you think in 2198 if Owen, always being one step ahead of everything (even Xanatos and Oberon both in "The Gathering", a none too easy feat)... actually has doubts about rescuing Alexander? Or a thought go across his mind that he may never be the Puck again? Especially if its uncertain if Alex is alive?
5) Do ya think Puck prides himself on being called "the" Puck? One single word, but emphasizing as much title as "Lord" does to Oberon, for the enjoyment of things he does himself.
Well anywhos. =) just some questions on personality of my favorite trickster. wheeeee!
Greg responds...
1. Perhaps. But Xanatos may not have mentioned it. And Puck as Owen may be quite wired as Owen, which would tend to smooth out any internal crisis.
2. Well, the hand is a different issue. Owen can afford to lose something like that (particularly before Gathering, Part II) because he knows he's Puck and can get it back at any time he feels like it.
3. I think there's truth in everything you're saying.
4. I don't think he has any doubts about rescuing Alex, who he helped raise from infancy. His own self-interest undoubtedly crosses his mind. That happens to all of us, I think. But I think he genuinely loves Alex as something akin to a son. Or at least a favorite nephew.
5. Probably.
Todd Jensen writes...
A question about the Master Matrix Computer. When somebody asked you who made it, you replied (I'm quoting from memory here) "Nobody exactly created it. It evolved."
That description of its origins got me wondering if the Master Matrix is something other than mechanical/non-organic, since the notion that it "evolved" and that nobody exactly "created" it certainly doesn't sound quite like the origins of a conventional machine. (In fact, "evolved" makes it sound almost alive, in a sense). This question is a little difficult to ask, admittedly, since I'm trying very hard to avoid the "no-ideas" clause, but is the Master Matrix entirely or mainly a machine, or is it something much more unusual than that?
Greg responds...
Both.
Gipdac writes...
I don't know if any one else pointed this out but, "Nicholas Natsilane Maza is a scion of both the Natsilane and Maza families (which technically makes him a distant relative of Delilah's)", if this is true then that means Samson is a "distant relative of Delilah's" also, through Demona's bloodline/DNA.
Greg responds...
And?
Vashkoda writes...
You've said that the timeline is "'done' for now" and that the last date you have listed is in 2198. Because I would assume that the liberation of Earth is a big event that you would have planned and included in your timeline, does this mean that the invasion lasts less than a year? (because it started already in March 2198)
Greg responds...
No. It just means that I haven't yet decided how long it takes before the liberation occurs. It's certainly longer than one year. Beyond 2198 or so things are quite vague in my head... The only things that I know happen after liberation is the formation of the Liberty and Notre Dame Clans.
Gipdac writes...
While answering a question from Lord Sloth you said "Initially, Katana is not with Brooklyn when he first arrives in 2198".
1) Does this mean that Brooklyn will do some timedancing in between his stay on G2198?
2) Will Katana be with Brooklyn during any of his stay in the year 2198?
Greg responds...
1. Not clear on what you mean here.
2. Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
London Clan
How rich is the London clan in 2198? What stuff do they sell in their stores in 2198?
Greg responds...
They're doing all right.
Magic stuff. Tourist stuff. Gargoyle merchandise. Etc.
Anonymous writes...
Monmouths
What do the Monmouths think of gargoyles in 2198? Are they pro-gargoyle?
Greg responds...
Generally.
Anonymous writes...
Trio
Is any of the trio alive in 2198? How about the trio¡¯s children?
Greg responds...
You mean not counting Brooklyn who TimeDanced there? No.
Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
MacBeth
How many identities does MacBeth have in 1996? Is he really a professor?
By 2198 does everyone know that he the Scottish king that Shakespeare wrote about?
Greg responds...
At least two that he keeps active.
He's a medievalist. Doesn't mean he teaches.
No.
Anonymous writes...
Foreshadowing in Future Tense
Does the Alexander of 2198 own any exo-suits like the one seen in the Future Tense episode?
Does Brooklyn and Demona look like the Demona and Brooklyn in Future Tense?
Greg responds...
Generally, I try to avoid making 'decisions' here that will inhibit the artistic freedom of future collaborators, but...
Alex. Potentially, yes. But since, Alex is kidnapped and put in stasis in the first episode it's going to be a non-issue for some time.
Brooklyn. Initially, Brooklyn would look very much like Brooklyn from Hunter's Moon. Later he may wind up with a look similar to Future Tense -- though with one major change.
Demona. Potentially.
Anonymous writes...
2198 Tech
So will humans develop faster than light travel or will they receive it?
How far away are humans in 2198 from developing easy faster than light travel?
How exactly does faster than light travel work in the gargoyles universe?
Greg responds...
1. NS
2. Not close.
3. NS
Anonymous writes...
2198 conditions
Is their poverty in 2198?
Is Cyberbiotics still around in 2198?
Is the Dracon crime family still around in 2198? What about Broud¡¯s gang?
Greg responds...
1. Yes. Some.
2. Not saying.
3. Not saying.
4. Brod? Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
Coldtrio
Are the Coldtrio still around in 2198?
Greg responds...
NS.
Anonymous writes...
Alexander¡¯s immortality
Why does Alexander Xanatos hide his immortality from the general public? How does he do it? Do the Illuminati know of his unique heritage? Any others?
Greg responds...
NS.
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Dingo and Robyn's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
I've already admitted this. The last name is Monmouth.
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Jackal and/or Hyena's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
ns
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Hakon/Wolf's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
N.S.
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Vogel's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
N.S. (Not saying.)
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Vinnie's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
Not saying. (Is this getting as repetitive for you as it is for me?)
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Jeffrey Robbins' descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
Not saying.
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Maria Chavez's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
Not saying.
Gipdac writes...
1) In 2198 is Alexander married?
2) If yes, to whom?
3) Is s/he human, Child of Oberon, gargoyles or New Olympian?
4) Has Alexander been married between 1994 and 2198?
5) If yes, how many times?
Greg responds...
1. ns
2. see 1
3. see 1
4. ns
5. see 4
Gipdac writes...
In 2198 will we meet any of Matt Bluestone's descendants?
If so, what will their name be, and what role would they play?
Greg responds...
Not saying.
Gipdac writes...
1) In 2198, is Delilah the leader of the Labyrinth clan?
2) Was Delilah the leader of the Labyrinth clan before the events of march 2198?
3) You said Delilah knows that she is descendant from the original Delilah, does that mean she wasn't raised in a community rookery?
4) If she was, were all of the Labyrinth eggs raised individually or in community rookeries?
5) If she wasn't, then how did she know she was descendant from original Delilah?
Greg responds...
1. Not initially.
2. No.
3. It doesn't mean that, no.
4. Not saying.
5. Well, it will be visually obvious for starters. Otherwise, I'm not saying.
Gipdac writes...
1) You said that Zafiro had not had the pendant for very long. How long did he have it before march, 2198.
2) Will we ever meeting the new Obsidiana, Jade and/or Turquesa in G2198?
3) After the events of march 2198 is Zaphiro the leader of the Mayan Clan?
4) Who was the leader of the Mayan clan before march 2198?
Greg responds...
1. Not very long.
2. Ever? Yes.
3. I'm not sure. I'm leaning that way, but I'm not sure.
4. Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
Are there still four mayan pendants in 2198?
Greg responds...
As far as I know.
Anonymous writes...
What position does Delilah have in the Labyrinth clan?
Greg responds...
I haven't absolutely decided this either. (Or figured it out, rather.) I think she's Second. But she may just be a warrior. (I assume we're talking about 2198 Delilah here.)
Anonymous writes...
What color is Samson?
Greg responds...
That has not been decided with any certainty.
Anonymous writes...
Do most people know of the Avalon clan in 2198? If so why don't they know of the Fay?
If not then how did people explain the appearance of an extra gargoyle leader at QFL?
Greg responds...
A select few humans know of the clan, without knowing much about Avalon itself.
Gipdac writes...
1) There any reason why Nick Natsilane Maza is connected to all four of the tricksters? (His Maza family line is part of a tribe closely related to Coyote, Diane's family has roots with a tribe associated with Anansi, the Natsilane family is of course connected to Raven, and Nick has some relation with Owen/Puck)
2) If the answer to 1) is yes, what is that reason?
Greg responds...
I think you're stretching the point.
Diane's association with Anansi is limited to her having met him. And Nick's association with Puck is limited to him having met Owen.
Anonymous writes...
Are gargoyles part of the UN in 2198?
Greg responds...
Define "part".
Anonymous writes...
Why did Earth surrender so easily to the Space-Spawn?
Do we haven any colonies in outer space in 2198? Did they also surrender?
Greg responds...
They were completely overmatched and in crisis. Short-term one could argue they had little choice, particularly since the penalty for merely saying no would have been the complete anhiliation of the planet.
Define "outer space". There were colonies within our solar system. None further out. And yes, they were forced to surrender too.
Anonymous writes...
Do the Children of Oberon know of the Space-Spawn prior to 2198?
Greg responds...
No.
Anonymous writes...
Who were the owners of the 2 LXMs that we see in Gargoyles 2198?
Greg responds...
The Lexington-Xanatos Corporation.
Anonymous writes...
What does Coyote-X think of the LXMs?
Is Coyote-X's AI software more advanced than that of the LXMs?
Greg responds...
Largely, he doesn't.
Very much so.
Anonymous writes...
Will we see any other LXMs in Gargoyles 2198 besides the two that you have mentioned?
Greg responds...
Yes. They're practically ubiquitous.
Anonymous writes...
Is the Master Matrix sentient?
Greg responds...
Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
Is Talos still around in 2198?
Greg responds...
Some version of him, yes.
Anonymous writes...
Where is MacBeth in 2198?
Greg responds...
On Earth.
Anonymous writes...
1.What does Alexander Fox Xanatos IV look like? Does he look like the one in Future Tense? Is he married?
2.How powerful is he in magic? Why didn't he use his magic to flee the area when the Space-Spawn came?
Greg responds...
1. Though I'm determined to keep design issues open for the time being, Alex does, in my mind, look much like his adult persona in Future Tense.
1a. Not telling.
2. Enough.
2a. No warning at all. None. He was transported right into stasis.
Anonymous writes...
Will Sphinx and Terry have descendents in 2198?
Greg responds...
Not saying one way or another.
(Do you see how if I admitted anything along these lines, it would ruin a great deal of supsense for these characters in the present?)
Anonymous writes...
What does 2198 Demona think of Nokkar?
Greg responds...
Well... she likes him marginally better than the Space-Spawn.
Anonymous writes...
Is Merlin and Blanchefleur still around in 2198?
Greg responds...
Not saying.
Anonymous writes...
Who rules New Camelot in 2198?
Greg responds...
Not telling.
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