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Twig writes...

You mention that The Powers That Be prevented a single character from being presented at LGBT+ on the show. I know there's not much you can do from your position, but is there any way that we, the fans, can criticize TPTB for this sort of thing? Like it's almost 2022, this is getting a little ridiculous.

Greg responds...

We've been given tremendous freedom on Season Four. I don't know if that single character issue would still be an issue now. I haven't asked because I haven't had to ask, and I don't want to generate a potential argument for the sake of a hypothetical, when otherwise we're all getting along. If and when it comes up, we'll ask again, and then we'll see.

Response recorded on May 26, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Dear Mr Weisman i have some Young justice questions for you 1.How old is Jason Blood and how long have he and the Phantom Stranger known each other? 2. I noticed some vary familiar looking artifacts in Mr blood's home that he told Mary not to touch. Have he or Etrigan ever traveled to any other universes outside of Earth 16 and the Dc multiverse including a universe where '' One thousand years ago superstition and the sword ruled'' to claim the artifacts ? 3. How long have Zatanna and Etrigan known each other ? 4. Did you consider hiring Dee Bradley Baker for the role of etrigan before hiring David Shaughnessy for the role instead ? P s thank you for giving my alien theory about the driver and kids on that school bus that Zatanna and her students avoided in the previous episode some footing

Greg responds...

1. Jason Blood was born @500 A.D.

1a. Long time.

2. I doubt it. But you never know.

3. A while.

4. Not that I recall. Love Dee. But I thought David - whom I worked with on Star Wars Rebels - would give us an amazing version of both Blood and Etrigan.

Response recorded on May 26, 2022

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Kirill writes...

Hello, Greg, first of all, thank you for giving millions of children, including me, the W.I.T.C.H. television franchise.

It has been more than 15 years since the popularity of this series and now Disney clearly does not know how to win an audience..
1) I have a question, do you happen to know or maybe you've heard something about adding old cartoons to Disney Plus?
I understand that W.I.T.C.H. has been abandoned by everyone for a long time, but I wonder if they are somehow going to add this cartoon to streaming in order to warmly review all 2 seasons and so that others get acquainted with the best cartoon of the 2000s
2) By any chance, you will not return to cooperation with Disney in any way?
I would like to see season 3 of WITCH

Greg responds...

1. I have no idea. Sorry.

2. I'd be happy to do more W.I.T.C.H. if Disney wanted more.

Response recorded on May 25, 2022

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Adam "MadMan" Martinez writes...

While I know you weren't involved in "The Shnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show" creatively speaking, you were a development executive at Disney when was being produced, so I figured I could ask to see if you could answer a couple of questions about it.

1. There's a story circulating on the internet (and even immortalized on the TV Tropes page) that the series was meant to just be a Pith Possum/Tex Tinstar series until, when creator Bill Kopp was pitching it to Disney executives, somebody suggested the addition of a cat and dog based on the success of Ren & Stimpy. I have my doubts about this story, though, due to the fact that Shnookums and Meat debuted as a segment on the Marsupilami series, not headlining their own series, not to mention there's an interview with DAF Radio where Bill Kopp implies that he came up with Tex Tinstar when he was asked to make the full series, not when he was pitching it. At any rate, do you remember if that story has any truth to it?

2. From what I've been able to gather from info I've seen, Shnookums and Meat seemed to perform decently enough in the ratings, but Disney never bothered giving it a merchandising push, not to mention there were apparently plans for theme park costumes that were scrapped before it was even on the air. Given what you've said in the past about how Gargoyles suffered from the domino effect caused by Frank Wells' death and Jeffery Katzenberg subsequently leaving for DreamWorks (and taking several high-ranking Disney TV execs with him), do you think the turmoil led to Shnookums and Meat being cancelled, or do you think it was just doomed either way?

Greg responds...

1. I pitched the cat and dog to Bill and Jeff DeGrandis. They ran with it and filled out the series with Pith and Tex. At some point, I'm sure they had to pitch Pith and Tex to myself and Bruce Cranston and Gary Krisel, but that was after the show was greenlit. Which doesn't mean they might not have already had those characters in their back pockets. That I don't know. But the dog and cat (not yet named Scnookums or Meat) came first from Disney's standpoint.

2. I honestly don't know and/or remember. Keep in mind, by that time, I was no longer an executive myself. I'd moved to the other side of the desk, so to speak, to produce Gargoyles. So I was no longer had the inside track on executive decisions.

Response recorded on May 25, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Mr. Weisman,

In the "Nomed Esir!," Klarion mentioned Earth-17 during his talk with Child. Now, given what is known in the DC Comics Multiverse, is the Earth-17 that was mentioned in this episode happens to be the one that has been completely laid to waste as a result of nuclear war in the year 1963, and that version of Earth is the home of the Atomic Knights of Justice? This question is assuming that the version of Earth-17 is the post-Flashpoint version that was first introduced/mentioned in "The Multiversity Guidebook #1."

Greg responds...

NO SPOILERS.

Response recorded on May 25, 2022

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Cade Creighton writes...

Good afternoon!

I LOVED YJ episode 4x10, nomeD esiR. But I do have one question regarding the flashbacks. If Vandal's son Arion was immortal like his father, how is it that he died by being crushed when Atlantis fell? Shouldn't he have just regenerated like Vandal always does when he is "killed?"

Greg responds...

First off, Vandal is Arion's grandfather, not his father. And I guess Arion's not quite as immortal as granddad.

Or is he?

No, he's not.

Response recorded on May 25, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Mr. Weisman,

1. In the Young Justice episode, "Nomed Esir!," there appears to be three "Gargoyles" Easter Eggs in the forms of the Grimorum Arcanorum, the Phoenix Gate, and the Eye of Odin. Interestingly, the latter two items are designed differently than what is seen in the "Gargoyles" carton series; with the Phoenix Gate being mirror-flipped and having a gold background instead of blue, and the Eye of Odin being red instead of blue. Why were these changes made for this episode?

2. For some unknown reason, there is no logline description provided for "Teg Ydaer!" like the rest of the episodes for the Zatanna story arc. What was the logline description for this episode supposed to be?

3. I saw on the Young Justice Wiki for Season 4 that Zatanna's story arc will have one extra episode in comparison to the previous two story arcs (which were four episodes each). If I may ask, what was the decision of doing this, as opposed to making episode 13 being part 1 (of 2) of an interlude chapter for the fourth season?

4. With the title for episode 13 of "Young Justice: Phantoms" revealed, I cannot properly guess the potential meaning of the hidden message for this season. The message thus far is: "Invitation to K". I had hope that the message would be indicated to be a hopeful one, but that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Greg responds...

1. No one really wants to get sued.

2. THIRTEEN and her friends face their greatest challenge.

3. Twenty-six episodes divided by six arcs, when the season had to be divided in half, into two sets of thirteen, meant that the arcs would run four, four, five, four, four, five.

4. I guess it depends on one's point of view. The House of Zod might find it hopeful.

Response recorded on May 25, 2022

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Musicfacter writes...

Hey Greg, greatly enjoying Season 4

It was stated because Martian's are telepathic, news travels pretty quickly across their planet. With that in mind, did the news of Connor's death manage to reach any of M'gann's siblings? And if so, did ANY of them bother to check up on her?

Greg responds...

I'm sure the news spread fast. As to whether they checked up on her, with the exception of Em'ree, of course: no spoilers.

Response recorded on May 24, 2022

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Michael Broder writes...

Why did Superman think Captain Marvel was Krptonian?

Greg responds...

They seemed to have similar powers.

Response recorded on May 24, 2022

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Family writes...

Who thought of Artemis and Jason Bard?

Greg responds...

I assume you mean who thought to put them together as a couple. Brandon and I discussed who Artemis might be dating in Season Four, and I suggested Jason.

Response recorded on May 24, 2022

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The Greenman writes...

Hello Greg,
As a fan of the original Milestone books, I have alot of excitement seeing them in animation after all these years.
1. Was Virgil ever mentored by Holocaust or even knowing each other?

Greg responds...

I'm not clear what you're asking. Do you mean in YJ? If so, then no. Virgil becoming Static predates Leonard becoming Holocaust. But if you're asking whether Leonard and Virgil had some kind of relationship before either got meta-powers, the answer is NO SPOILERS.

Response recorded on May 24, 2022

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Steve Hockensmith writes...

In "Misplaced", how has Wotan escaped incarcetion since "Revelation"?

Greg responds...

Magic.

Response recorded on May 24, 2022

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Matt Itelson writes...

How did L-Ron have access to the Krolotean database?
Why didn't Despero speak in "Corned?"

By the way, Keith David, the voice of Mongul here, previously voiced Despero in Justice League.

Greg responds...

1. I dunno. Does it matter?

2. It was beneath him to communicate directly with inferiors.

3. Keith's a talented guy!

Response recorded on May 23, 2022

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Michael Broder writes...

How old was Dan Garrett when he became the first Blue Beetle?
How old was Ted Kord when he became the second Blue Beetle?

Greg responds...

1. Dan Garrett, born in 1915, became Blue Beetle in 1939.

2. Ted Kord, born in 1983, became the Blue Beetle in Team Year One.

Response recorded on May 23, 2022

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Family writes...

Why was Shimmer in a pod next to Lagoon Boy?
What information was in the flash drive that Aqualad gave to Nightwing besides intel needed to track Lagoon Boy?

Greg responds...

1. She had tested positive for the meta-gene and - in part as a punishment for her failure in preventing a clutch of kids from being captured - she was included in the shipment from Bialya.

2. Pretty much what Nightwing spells out on screen.

Response recorded on May 23, 2022

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Steve Hockensmith writes...

How old where Jamie and Tye when they met?

Greg responds...

I'm assuming Jamie is a typo for Jaime. Or did you mean Jamie Thomason our voice director? Nah.

So, Jaime and Tye were both born in 1999. I haven't specifically worked out exactly when they met, but from their point of view, they've been buddies forever.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Jen writes...

How do you feel about DC comics adapting your original characters or your interpretations of minor characters?

For instance, how would you feel if Artemis Crock was made Cheshire's sister on Earth-Prime? Would you take it as a compliment to your choices? Or dislike someone else using your story beats?

You've also made clear that Kaldur'ahm and Jackson Hyde are two different characters to you. Is that because there are too many differences between the two? Or because only the Earth-16 Kaldur will ever be seen the character in your eyes?

Greg responds...

I'm hesitant to address ideas without taking the execution of those ideas into account, but generally (and hypothetically)...

1. I think that'd be cool, again, depending on how it was handled. I like them as sisters.

2. I think there are too many differences between Jackson and Kaldur. I have other behind-the-scene resentments, as well, which are not politic for me to comment on in any more detail.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

1 Why did you choose ocean master as a member of the light?
2 Since Artemis said that acquiring the justice league’s Intel has been a goal that the light has been after for a long time why didn’t vandal savage steal the data when he had the entire justice league under his control

Greg responds...

1. Many reasons, including but not limited to (a) his reach across the oceans and (b) his intimate knowledge and access to the Atlantean leadership and (c) his resources.

2. Maybe he did. But that was ten years ago. Maybe he wanted an update.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

What is Arsenal’s relationship with Lian like

Greg responds...

Avuncular.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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BatFan2099 writes...

Were Mal Duncan and Karen Beecher married when their daughter was born?

Greg responds...

Yep.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Isn’t m’comm like the biological equivelant of 18? Since he is so young how is he the leader of the white martian resistance? Aren’t there any older white martian’s with more experience in the resistance?

Greg responds...

1. M'comm M'orzz was born in 1968.

2. He took leadership.

3. There clearly are.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Kimmy writes...

What month in 2016 was Wally west's funerial happen? What month in 2017 did Garfield's stepdad take Garfield from Miss Martian? How did Queen Perdita find out Wally West was dead?

Greg responds...

1. June.

2. It was late 2016, but we haven't nailed down a specific month.

3. No spoilers.

Response recorded on May 20, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

What is halo exactly? A motherbox in gabrielle body or a new entity created from both the motherbox and gabrielle?

Greg responds...

Yes.

Response recorded on May 19, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

I find the way you've responded to criticism for seasons 2 and 3 really off-putting. Whenever people say they didn't like the 5 year time-skip, or that they don't like how only a few characters get focus, or that they miss the season 1 style storytelling, etc. your response is almost always something like "it's my show I'll do whatever I want and I don't care what you guys want" and I've even seen you imply that fans are entitled for getting upset that their favorite characters don't get screentime. A writer doesn't create content just for themselves, you create content that is meant to be consumed by others. And you have one of the most dedicated fanbases in history who performed a miracle resurrecting this show. We're allowed to have opinions. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that you took a big risk after season 1 and understand why not everyone is happy with the direction you went in?

Greg responds...

I do understand. I totally understand that we took a big risk and I totally understand that not everyone is happy with it. FULL STOP.

What I'm at a loss to understand is what I'm expected to do about it.

Keep in mind, responses come after the work is concluded. Concluded. I can't change history and undo stuff that's already been done.

And, of course, I don't want to, either. Cuz I like what we did. (I mean maybe not every second of every episode, but the vast tapestry of the thing, certainly.) And, frankly, the majority of our fandom agrees, judging by numbers alone. So even if I could, whom should I make changes for? A minority of fans who want one change or a different minority of fans who want some other change?

Beyond that, I'll simply repeat what I've always said. Brandon and I have to be passionate about what we're doing. That means following our best instincts and hoping that a majority of the fans like the result. So far that's basically worked for us. Not for EVERY fan, but for the great majority. It may not always work, of course, but what's the alternative? That we write stuff we don't like, to maybe please a subset of the fandom? How would that work? I mean, if Brandon and I aren't passionate about the work, how can we expect anyone - ANYONE - to view it and feel passionately about it. It would be hollow.

And your post is resplendent with that very contradiction: you say we have "one of the most dedicated fanbases in history who performed a miracle resurrecting this show," and I would sincerely agree wholeheartedly. But I have to think that the reason the fanbase is dedicated and performed that miracle is because they basically like what BV and I are doing. I mean the miracle happened after the timeskip. If the timeskip killed the show for the majority of the fandom, then I have to assume they wouldn't have helped us come back, right?

I can see how you interpret all of the above into "it's my show I'll do whatever I want and I don't care what you guys want," but I don't think that's fair. It's certainly doesn't capture the gist of what I've said, even if in essence, it reflects the end result. What I'm saying is, "we're the creators of the show and we HAVE to do the show we want because the alternative is something that literally winds up pleasing nobody."

If that's off-puttiing, I'm sorry. But it does have the virtue of being honest.

Response recorded on May 19, 2022

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Liam writes...

1: Is madame Xanadu the Arthurian nimue?
2: If Xanadu is nimue, how is she alive today? Reincarnation or immortality?
3: Considering you did your own takes on arthurian legends in gargoyles, will that those interpretations influence Xanadu and maybe other dc characters tied to arthurian legends?
4: Was Xanadu's accent authentic or was it always just something she played up while fortune telling?
5: When did Xanadu start using real magic in the present day?

Greg responds...

1. No spoilers.

2. No spoilers.

3. If I'm understanding your question correctly, than no. My interpretations of the Arthurian myths and legends for Gargoyles won't influence any adaptations of the DC version of Arthurian myths and legends for YJ.

4. Which accent?

5. After meeting Kent and (ironically) being convinced that real magic exists thanks to Abra Kadabra.

Response recorded on May 19, 2022


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