ESG>>Greg's right.

Immortality is quite obviously possible in the Gargoyles Universe. And Xanatos has already met both Demona and Macbeth by that point, and knows they are immortal, even if he doesn't know HOW.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.~~C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:58:15 pm EDT from 24.217.38.192

ESG> <<Nobody has achieved such a thing in the history of mankind.>>

Peredur fab Ragnal, Duval, Blanchefleur, Nimue, Shari, Macbeth, Demona, and Quincy Hemings say hi.
Greg Bishansky
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:55:59 pm EDT from 67.189.178.253

It's because he isn't dumb that he should be able to think of another way. This is the guy who utilized science and sorcery to create a frankenstein-esque monster, partly so he could launch an attack synchronized with police efforts in order to weaponize a virus. He shouldn't be stopped by mere tribal police. As I said he could have sent Coyote again, or any number of robots made to implicate others, or at least not himself.

Besides, it doesn't matter how smart the trickster is. He seems incapable of guarding the soil carving at a distance, so he'd have to come in person again.

And whether or not he has other plans for immortality is irrelevant. Nobody has achieved such a thing in the history of mankind. He should be hedging his bets as much as possible.
ESG
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:23:20 pm EDT from 50.52.13.160

Chip> Though the last-minute upsets Goliath kept handing him were becoming irritating.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:13:18 pm EDT from 174.101.230.22

Because Xanatos isn't dumb. Can't destroy the carving now...It will be guarded. And there's no point either, because Xanatos is a trickster too. He knows that Coyote won't fall for the same trap twice. He was bested, and, I'd imagine, just like Hudson, Coyote the Trickster has "earned it".

Xanatos has lots of schemes for immortality in the works. The Emir was another one. And I'm sure there are others. One failed, so he moves on to the next one. No biggie.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.~~C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:59:50 am EDT from 24.217.38.192

One wonders why Xanatos gave up on capturing Coyote. I mean, what was stopping him from trying again? He had a couple weeks still before The Gathering. Even if the Tribal Police shooed him off, he could have sent Coyote and a few other robots to try again without implicating himself.
ESG
posted @ Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:55:37 am EDT from 50.52.13.160

ESG> Nope. They are Gathering Exclusives. However, some of the writers, (like myself) have published their original individual submissions online after the fact.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.~~C.S. Lewis
posted @ Sat, Oct 26, 2013 11:22:38 am EDT from 24.217.38.192

So what's the deal with the items of Enchantment Anthologies? Ever been published online?
ESG
posted @ Sat, Oct 26, 2013 4:43:25 am EDT from 50.52.13.160

STEVEN> That's a bootleg.
Greg Bishansky
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 9:55:52 pm EDT from 67.189.178.253

So I have seen the Season 1 and Season 2 DVD's available through Disney, but every once in a while a 5 DVD set of the complete series pops up (see the link below, I am not sure if it will work). Is this legit? Was this an official release at some point, or is it something that was captured off of Toon Disney? What do you think?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gargoyles-Complete-Series/111194144901?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2244754983217129494%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D111194144901%26
Steven - [stevenandmelodyhammell at gmail dot com]
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 9:50:15 pm EDT from 107.15.79.237

Yesterday, I got a catalogue of British-themed objects in the mail; one of the items in it was a necktie with a print on it of a mural painting in a Scottish museum of the kings and queens of Scotland. The part of the painting it zeroed in on showed Macbeth, Gruoch, Duncan and Canmore (though with different character designs than "City of Stone", of course).

Kind of appropriate for the 19th anniversary of "Gargoyles", in a roundabout way.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 6:15:58 pm EDT from 108.226.1.5

Normally I'm not big on dancing, but Gargoyles is 19 years old and Weisman has told me to.

‹Begins dancing.›

‹Probably not very well...›
JTS
JTS
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 7:40:35 am EDT from 82.8.27.101

Per Greg Weisman:

*commences dancing*
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 3:01:59 am EDT from 99.92.109.252

is anyone else experiencing cracking issues with their S2V2 discs? My disc 1 is fine but 2 & 3 have cracks in the center ring. Trying to figure out if its the case im using or if disney used low grade dvds.
Wolf - [megatronwolf at msn dot com]
What would Snake Plissken do?
posted @ Fri, Oct 25, 2013 2:13:27 am EDT from 69.122.134.118

According to Greg it's the Nineteenth Anniversary of Gargoyles and everybody needs to dance now. Welp let's get dancin'
Matthew
"Shall we their fond pageant see? Lord, what fools these mortals be!"-Puck
posted @ Thu, Oct 24, 2013 11:37:00 pm EDT from 64.85.229.140

Not that we didn't have anymore reason this year to be dusting off our Gargoyles Season One DVDs with Season Two, Volume Two finally being released, but NINETEEN years ago today "Awakening: Part One" first aired on television!

That's right -- happy anniversary :)
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:11:07 am EDT from 70.176.170.14

I don't want any spoilers. Not even a page. I want to read it all fresh since I already know I'll buy and read the book.

That is another reason I think we should be very diligent with our spoiler tags.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Thu, Oct 24, 2013 12:28:39 am EDT from 99.92.109.252

That's not unusual with Amazon books, though, so it's not like it's something you could justifiably do something about. Just to make sure it wasn't weird, I just glanced at one of the Artemis Fowl books, which probably has the same general demographic, and it does the same thing.

I mean, it's kind of a bummer, but it's not like it's exclusive to Rain.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 9:57:28 pm EDT from 76.2.67.248

Craig> I've already brought it to his attention.
Greg Bishansky
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 5:06:22 pm EDT from 67.189.178.253

So, the "Look Inside" feature on Amazon's Rain of the Ghosts page seems to be a bit...um...all-inclusive? It has a LOT of pages, going up almost to the end of the book, including an excerpt from the second book (!). Some of the pages are sequential, and some are just random and totally without context, beginning and ending in mid-sentence. Is this really the way Greg wants to promote the book? If it's a mistake, someone close to him should bring it to his attention.
Craig - [craigmarinaro at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 4:24:53 pm EDT from 24.188.170.60

Ok, your criticism is correct. And thanks you for the informations. I've read the FAQ and my english isn't so well. The words i've used were not these that i've meant. Ok ive not the so many words for choice but i try it with a dictionary.

You are right the seasons 3 is not a filler that was my mistake. Ive thought it was because the comic clan building that ive saw was a bit different. The animation wasnt brutal for me but since Naruto not only the bloody scenes were cut the storyline were cut too. Dragonball Z was the last animes ive saw uncut.. Im not happy about it but thats the new time and we have to live with it when it should come to tv.

And your right since simpsons american dad and south park spongebob my opinion about the cartoons have changed.

I'm only a old Fan of these series and i love shakespear Arthur and Middle Ages and Co. and only would im hope in the future is that the rest of the storyline could be told. And if its a gigantic book without any images it would also ok for me.

Thank you for your time :-)
Slayer86 - [Slayer86 at gmx dot de]
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 11:57:31 am EDT from 87.145.36.204

Harlan Phoenix: "Your sentence also is either very nebulous at best or makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE if I stop being generous (and I'm rarely generous, so why I'm being so now is beyond me besides that it's slightly less boring than being a douche)."

I would think you could muster up some generosity (or at least courtesy) for someone trying to communicate in a language other than their native tongue. Some of the sentence structures made me suspect this, and then I saw that Slayer86 has a German e-mail address which confirmed it for me. I commend him/her for stepping out; I've been tempted to post on message boards where I'm not fluent in the language but haven't for fear of looking stupid (or being treated that way, as Harlan has done).

Anyway, what Harlan has said is correct (if not polite). The bottom line is that Disney owns Gargoyles and only they can legally make new episodes. And they don't really need donations.
Phil - [p1anderson at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 11:07:24 am EDT from 50.192.123.173

Amazon.de is selling only one Clan Building Vol.1 comic for 110 Euro (like 160 dollars). Wow, I'm so glad I already bought one for the normal price... maybe these comics will be even more expensive in the future and maybe collectors will pay a lot for them someday.
Comet
Double, double, toil and trouble. Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 9:24:11 am EDT from 80.187.108.232

"The Season 3 is not the right season. It was just a filler because the official story that you can see in the clan building comics were to brutal and bloody."

That's not really correct. Though the full details (or as full as they can be) on the production of The Goliath Chronicles can be found on this very site, a summary will do for the sake of this conversation: Greg Weisman was not brought back beyond a consulting position (which he rejected, as he felt his consultation was not done for the narrative benefit of the series) and many of the broad abstract themes of his third season plans were adapted by a new staff.

Now, while it's true that Goliath Chronicles's status as a network show rather than a syndicated show tightened the standards, that's not to say that, by comparison, Clan Building is "more brutal." There's not much in the way of bloody content in the comics beyond Thailog stabbing Goliath and in terms of the non-bloody physical violence, well, it was par for the course when compared with the animated series. The content, overall, is pretty much exactly the same.

Your sentence also is either very nebulous at best or makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE if I stop being generous (and I'm rarely generous, so why I'm being so now is beyond me besides that it's slightly less boring than being a douche). Season three is "filler"? That makes no sense. It carries a seasonal plot based around the fallout of Hunter's Moon and brings that arc to a conclusion. It's arguably just as serialized as the rest of the series, and arguably to a fault considering we lost the wide scope of the Gargoyles Universe for a more centralized Quarrymen plot. It's not structurally "filler" and from a production perspective, it serves the exact same purpose as the first two seasons did, e.i. to be a cartoon on television.

Clan Building also isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the structure of a hypothetical third Weisman season, either. Though it's been argued that you could make Clan Building the BASIS for a third season, it's something that never made sense to me. The hypothetical "real" season three was a collection of springboards (episode premises) that had not properly reached the development stage. There also wasn't a Thailog in the Illuminati. Or Shari. The Stone of Destiny arc was originally in the development for Pendragon! While a third Weisman season on ABC would've had some hurdles, it would've likely been another well done season of television. It just wouldn't have resembled Clan Building, a product of hindsight and structuring that hindsight into 12 issues of comic book, as much as we'd like to think. There'd be some similarities, though. But Clan Building as present is NOT some mythically rejected storyline in favor of "filler."

"Gargoyles were made for Kids 9-11 years and that was the year when i watched the show. The Problem is the most Kids in this age don't understand the story they just see the actions and see the emotions. I never thought Gargoyles were made by Disney because Disney is other less Brutal easy to understand story. Gargoyles is more like Bob Morane a show that can only be shown at afternoon. Im now 20 and i still love the Gargoyles. But in that age i dont know why but the most adults dont like animated showes. And at that time it is difficult to air at 7 p.m."

What defines "brutal?" Darkwing Duck's daughter had lost her family. Simba witnessed his own father's death. Even recent shows like Tron: Uprising have genocide and prejudice as part of the backstories of a few characters, going to some chilling places given the source material.

For all that Gargoyles gets praised, by you, for its intelligent writing, you say NOTHING about the actual intelligent writing and ramble with barely comprehensible sentences about how "brutal" it is. What IS intelligent writing to you?

"Today its much harder to bring that show back, because the animators are split off and its much more unhandsome competition as in the past. The Kids dont want Intelligent stuff. They only want glittery blinky animations with much action and easy story thats enough for them. So sad it is."

And that's a ridiculous oversimplification of why shows succeed or fail. You sound like someone who hasn't actually watched a cartoon since he was a child and assumes all cartoons are bad because you saw five seconds of Johnny Test and totally remember what it was like to be a 90's kid. Brah.

You demand intelligent entertainment, but you can barely articulate yourself and your entire displayed basis for intelligence is how "brutal" something is. There've been plenty of intelligently done cartoons, some by former Gargoyles staff members!

You sound like an incoherent 90's kid who wants to cling to the thing he liked before. Like most animation fandom because, on average, cartoon fans hate cartoons.

"There is a much story that has to be told the future version of the gargoyles when the aliens attack. The only chance that i see is to make money by donations to create that lost episodes private and bring that finally on dvd. Other people with new inventions also do that to on a page."

And to correct your terminology: these episodes are not "lost." They were never MADE. The closest to a "lost" episode is perhaps The Last, an episode of Team Atlantis featuring Demona and making a few ties to the Gargoyles Universe. Your proposition, this only way to bring these stories to light, is actually technically illegal.

So there's that.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 8:01:21 am EDT from 76.2.67.248

The Season 3 is not the right season. It was just a filler because the official story that you can see in the clan building comics were to brutal and bloody.

Gargoyles were made for Kids 9-11 years and that was the year when i watched the show. The Problem is the most Kids in this age don't understand the story they just see the actions and see the emotions. I never thought Gargoyles were made by Disney because Disney is other less Brutal easy to understand story. Gargoyles is more like Bob Morane a show that can only be shown at afternoon. Im now 20 and i still love the Gargoyles. But in that age i dont know why but the most adults dont like animated showes. And at that time it is difficult to air at 7 p.m.

Today its much harder to bring that show back, because the animators are split off and its much more unhandsome competition as in the past. The Kids dont want Intelligent stuff. They only want glittery blinky animations with much action and easy story thats enough for them. So sad it is.

There is a much story that has to be told the future version of the gargoyles when the aliens attack. The only chance that i see is to make money by donations to create that lost episodes private and bring that finally on dvd. Other people with new inventions also do that to on a page.
Slayer86 - [Slayer86 at gmx dot de]
posted @ Wed, Oct 23, 2013 5:38:11 am EDT from 87.145.46.71

By acknowledging how hard it is to find a channel to "make Gargoyles", I assume "missing" means "unmade."

There's no real context where the Goliath Chronicles have ever equated to being missing.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 8:33:49 pm EDT from 76.2.67.248

Though I think the person most disgusted at Delilah's genetic heritage would be Demona - especially because of which gargoyle and which human were used to provide the genetic material to produce the original Delilah.

(And that's as close to a Demona/Elisa mating as we're ever going to see.)
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 7:38:05 pm EDT from 108.226.1.5

What do you mean by missing episodes? Do you mean the Goliath Chronicles? Because if so, I would only pay to watch those burn. And maybe use the pyre to make s'mores.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75 at gmail dot com]
"You are superior to us in only one respect: You are better at dying!" -Dalek Sec ("Doctor Who")
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 4:34:39 pm EDT from 65.33.195.28

i Know it is hard to find a channel to make the last seasons of gargoyles but if its the money have you tried it with with donations?
I'm sure there are many Fans who would pay very much to see the missing Episodes of the series. You are such a good author!
Slayer86 - [Slayer86 at gmx dot de]
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 4:21:50 pm EDT from 87.180.70.174

Brack> The 2198 document mentions that Delilah's insecurity is her own, with fears that her clanmates share the same disgust humans do when learning of her mixed heritage.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 11:46:01 am EDT from 76.2.67.248

Seeing how the other clones seem to be the Ones fulfilling the prophecies, it's likely Burbank will be the one I die in battle with Xanatos/Coyote.
Also, Delilah's feeling like an outcast could be indicative of the entire Labrynth Clan, with most of them having some human DNA. So within the Global Gargoyle Community, she and her clan are the minority.
Brack
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 8:11:07 am EDT from 98.87.147.51

@Todd - you are also taking it way to literally. "In various ways" - "Xanatos" in this case could well be Coyote - recall that the megalomaniacal robot Xanatos crafted in part after himself is going to try to take over the known universe in 2198? And Alex is certainly still alive then, if in stasis. We know Lex is going to "turn into" a robot (The little ones he designs, and maybe he'll even really go a bit cyborg). We know we'll have the Clone Wars. We know we'll get the Pyramid. Etc etc. So I think Hudson will die in battle, and I also think it will have something to do wit Xanatos. I also think Broadway's going to go/be struck blind.

@Chip - "You're forgetting the obvious. The rumors that the Labyrinth Clan still practices cloning. " Wait, what? Where doe that rumor come from?
FTBM
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 7:58:56 am EDT from 64.120.55.155

[<< However, given that Future Tense has come true (or will) in various ways, Hudson will die in battle, and it will have something to do with Xanatos (or Coyote, which still has to do with Xanatos).>>

Yes, and Demona and Brooklyn will be mates. Xanatos will kill Alexander...]

Not to mention that the Xanatos of "Future Tense" was acting a lot more like a conventional (almost cliched) "take-over-the-world" super-villain than the Xanatos we know. (The main difference between the Xanatos of "Future Tense" and such cliched super-villains was that Xanatos was winning at every turn; even when Goliath seemingly defeated him - before it turned out that Lexington was the real "big bad" - Xanatos and his troops had killed almost everyone dear to Goliath except Elisa.)
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 6:27:11 am EDT from 108.226.1.5

FTBM> You're forgetting the obvious. The rumors that the Labyrinth Clan still practices cloning.

In other words...It's 2198 Delilah is a clone of Modern (1997) Delilah. In which case, the fact that she has human DNA is rather obvious, because of who her genetic template is.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.~~C.S. Lewis
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 1:14:14 am EDT from 24.217.38.192

Please. The predictions have been coming out. besides, could be Demona and Gnash ;) Or Delilah and Malibu.

Which leads me to a question - Delilah 2198 has a short description, which renders her character placement as being someone who feels they are an outcast due to their (extremely) minimal Human DNA - which should be even more minimal (originally 2%) with subsequent breedings, starting with Delilah (original) and Malibu. What I took from that is that, for whatever reason, Delilah 2198 has very few relatives in the Labyrinth Clan, to offset that oddness and make her seem less alone. Especially considering how small the clan would be to begin with, and how many offspring should result from each pairing (at least three although perhaps due to bio age Delilah original would be at 2?) Delilah 2198 should have plenty of relatives that share her DNA, and Greg W made it clear ppl. knew of lineage in that clan, so what gives? Does she somehow have far fewer? Or what?
FTBM
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:38:28 am EDT from 64.120.55.155

<< However, given that Future Tense has come true (or will) in various ways, Hudson will die in battle, and it will have something to do with Xanatos (or Coyote, which still has to do with Xanatos).>>

Yes, and Demona and Brooklyn will be mates. Xanatos will kill Alexander...
Greg Bishansky
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:21:35 am EDT from 67.189.178.253

The Wind Ceremony
When a gargoyle dies, the disposition of his or her body depends only slightly on whether the gargoyle died during the day or at night.
If at night, the corpse is cremated.
If during the day, the rubble is pulverized.
(The notion of pulverizing the undamaged stone corpse of a gargoyle who has died peacefully in his sleep is disturbing. But in fact, gargoyles so rarely die peacefully in their sleep as to make this a non-issue.)



Based on the above, if Hudson dies of old age, in his sleep, that is - he'll be pulverized. However, given that Future Tense has come true (or will) in various ways, Hudson will die in battle, and it will have something to do with Xanatos (or Coyote, which still has to do with Xanatos).
FTBM
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:17:16 am EDT from 64.120.55.155

This is their culture, if a gargoyle is dead, they're dead. The Wind Ceremony is very important to gargoyles... why would they just leave a corpse standing?
Greg Bishansky
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:12:24 am EDT from 67.189.178.253

Pulverizing a dead gargoyle wouldn't be that much different than cremation, I would think... but then, not every culture practices cremation.

I'm rather inclined to believe that if a gargoyle died in stone sleep and remained a statue, they would leave the statue standing, though. I would consider it a monument.

Of course, erosion could probably pulverize that statue anyway, given a few centuries. I think the only reason that the remnants of the Wyvern Clan didn't get eroded by the wind and rain during their thousand-year sleep was that they were still alive.
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:28:35 pm EDT from 24.14.51.43

I dunno about the rest of you, but if I were in the clan's place I would certainly not pulverize the dead, even for a Wind Ceremony.
ESG
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:11:28 pm EDT from 76.178.135.99

Sorry for not using spoiler tags. I'm batting 1000 today.
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:52:23 pm EDT from 50.29.205.45

Battle Beast> I tend to think the clan would still powder him down for the Wind Ceremony. Presuming of course they were absolutely certain he was actually dead and not magically frozen or some such.

Wind Ceremonies seem to be a pretty big deal in gargoyle spirituality, to the point where Greg once implied that lack of one was a big reason the Coldtrio were never able to move on.
Algernon
"Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back, don't look away, and DON'T blink." ~Tenth Doctor.
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 7:47:42 pm EDT from 109.77.212.52

I once asked if Gargoyles ever die in their sleep, and Greg Said yes, but it is very, very rare. I imagined that when a Gargoyle dies in their sleep, they just don't wake up. Their don't turn to flesh, they stay stone.

I don't know if that could or would ever happen or how Greg would handle that, but I think, personally, that would be a neat way to keep Hudson around; but on the other hand, have a corpse around all the time isn't exactly welcome, either.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
I did it! I watched all 485 Best picture nominees in 365 days!
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 6:38:01 pm EDT from 75.159.21.195

Can we start using the Spoiler tags, guys? Please?
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 5:53:56 pm EDT from 108.226.1.5

I didn't try to read too much of it. I read the first six or so pages just to get a taste for what the book'll be like. Those Amazon previews have a ridiculous amount of pages, yet seem to skip others at completely arbitrary intervals.

Cool to hear there was a Terry Chung, though! It's a neat Weisman connection. The closest I got to pondering connections was wondering if Bernie and Maude were gonna be the new Brendan and Margot.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 2:30:53 pm EDT from 76.2.67.248

Correction: The map says 1799. I guess I should NOT assume that's when the events in the book takes place. My apologizes.
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 1:09:01 pm EDT from 159.240.11.216

@Harlan Phoenix, I also read some of the pages on Amazon. I saw the name Terry Chung and I'm immediately thought of this Terry Chung (http://gargwiki.net/Terry_Chung) but it appears the story takes place in 1799, not anywhere near 1996 or beyond. :)
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 1:03:30 pm EDT from 159.240.11.216

Ten in the name of after reading some of the Rain of the Ghosts preview pages on Amazon, I now desperately hope the Convergeance radio play is Rain sharing an apartment with the ghosts of Cassidy and Hakon and all they do is tool on tourists for forty minutes.
Harlan Phoenix
The enemy is clever. We're smaller but whatever. When we put it together, I'll form the head.
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:05:11 pm EDT from 76.2.67.248

Nine in the name of nine.
Phil - [p1anderson at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:35:42 am EDT from 50.192.123.173

Rather Eighth
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:44:45 am EDT from 159.240.11.216

Seventh
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:44:15 am EDT from 159.240.11.216

Seven in the name of all good children going to heaven.
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:43:57 am EDT from 24.14.51.43

Sixth in the name of Wan.
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.~~C.S. Lewis
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 4:08:44 am EDT from 24.217.38.192

Fifth in the name of Raava!
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"I feel like I've been tied to the Whipping Post..." - The Allman Brothers Band
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 3:29:08 am EDT from 66.91.223.104

Fourth, sorry.
ESG
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 2:23:44 am EDT from 50.52.52.222

Fifth in the name of...joy.
ESG
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 2:23:17 am EDT from 50.52.52.222

THIRD in the name of [Insert declarative here]!
Matthew
"Shall we their fond pageant see? Lord, what fools these mortals be!"-Puck
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 2:03:10 am EDT from 71.202.8.177

SECOND in the name of love!
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"For science, which, as my associate Fang indicated, must move ever forward. Plus there's the money... and I do love the drama!" - Sevarius, "Louse"
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:42:17 am EDT from 99.92.109.252

FIRST in the name of Amazon posting Spirits of Ash and Foam's cover!
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:20:04 am EDT from 70.176.170.14