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Greg Bishansky writes...

Ugh... sorry to post two in a row, really sorry. But I posted my review of "Identity Crisis" before "Growing Pains" by accident.

*** SPIDEY SPOILERS ***

"Growing Pains"
Another Sunday, another episode of "The Spectacular Spider-Man" come and gone. And, as far as episodes go, I almost wish there was a bad one so I could stop heaping praise on this show, it gets a tad predictable. But, a great show is a great show, and I'm glad we have one. Good stuff

Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive.

Okay, the quote may not be Shakespeare as all the auditions were, but I think that sums up this episode quite well. Our tangled web is being weaved by Venom. He is deceiving the city into believing Spider-Man has become a criminal.

I've spoken my thoughts and opinions on Venom in previous reviews, but I have to say that I like this Venom. I like this Venom a lot, and I hate that I do. But, really, this is what he should be. He is the evil Spider-Man. None of this misunderstood, lethal protector of the innocent garbage. This Venom is completely obsessed with Peter Parker and doesn't care who he hurts to get to him. Which is really what he was in his first two appearances, before Marvel decided they had a cash cow and turned him into something else entirely.

Now, the main plot of this issue is loosely based on Amazing Spider-Man #42 where John Jameson was infected by alien spores and gained power, and at his father, J. Jonah Jameson's insistence, he attempted to hunt down Spider-Man. That very same issue also marked Peter Parker meeting Mary Jane Watson for the first time, complete with the popular phrase "Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot." But, obviously we already did that in the first season.

I enjoyed the treatment of John Jameson here. I think a lot of people thought the creators of this show would jump right into Man-Wolf with him, but nope, they chose to adapt a fun, if somewhat forgotten story from Lee's run. But, considering how this episode ends, with John at Ravencroft lusting for more power, I can foresee a Man-Wolf down the road.

This episode also marked J. Jonah Jameson's return this season. Yes, we got a brief glimpse of him in "Destructive Testing" but it was a brief glimpse and with no lines. Here, well, Darran Norris is still in top form. I love his take on this character, and I just love how Jameson is written. What I enjoy the most about this Jameson is how his hatred of Spider-Man has slowly built up. First, Spidey was just some mook in a costume who sold papers. Second, Spidey participated in trashing the offices of the Daily Bugle... okay, that was Rhino's fault, but still. Then Spidey, without meaning to, upstaged John Jameson's heroic landing of a doomed space shuttle. Now... as far as Jameson is concerned, Spidey is responsible for John being a mental case. Well played, Weisman.

The whole cast auditioning for St. John Devereaux's play was enough to tickle the Shakespeare geek in me. And looking at the cast list at the end, the play is "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Let's see who I can make out... some of the name's are obscured by Devereaux's arm.

Puck..... Harry Osborn
Titania.. Sha Shan Nguyen
Oberon... Kenny Kong
Cobweb... Glory Grant
Hermia... Mary (I assume Jane Watson).
and all the way at the bottom... O'Reilly (I assume Seymore) and below him... Greg Weisman. LOL, I love these little Easter Eggs.

The ending of the episode, well, I love a good cliffhanger, and you can't get a bigger one than Venom bursting into the offices of the Daily Bugle and announcing that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. What, I have to wait a week? Aw well.

Another spectacular one.

*** SPIDEY SPOILERS ***

Greg responds...

SPIDEY SPOILERS!!!!

For the record, it wasn't my idea to put my name on the cast list. (Though, of course, I approved it.)

Response recorded on April 21, 2009

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Greg Bishansky writes...

"Identity Crisis"

*** SPIDEY SPOILERS ***

Last week on "The Spectacular Spider-Man". The nefarious Venom revealed Spidey's secret identity to J. Jonah Jameson... CLIFFHANGER! How will Spidey get out of this one?

Will Jameson not believe a big, drooling monster?

Will Spider-Man sell his future marriage to Mary Jane and unborn child to Mephisto after Aunt May gets shot by the Big Man's operatives?

Let's find out...

Again, I have to ask... why didn't Venom ever try this in the comic books? Yes, yes, I know, he wanted to have Spidey all to himself, but that explanation never flew for me. It works for the Green Goblin, because Norman enjoyed the game more than anything. There is a reason he revealed his own identity to Peter Parker after he unmasked Spider-Man. In Norman Osborn's sick mind, it was all a twisted game, and Peter was probably the only real honest relationship he had with another human being (scary as that sounds). But Eddie Brock always blamed Spider-Man for destroying his life, and wanted to return the favor, and yet... he never even came close to pulling the trigger.

And that's why I like this Venom. I like this Venom a lot. He knows Spider-Man's secret identity, and he exploits it. And he almost did it. He almost pulled it off. That trick with the gene cleanser was good. Reveal Spidey's identity, take away his powers, and leave him at the mercy of the entire world. I'm sure the Big Man would have had Aunt May shot within the hour. Not to mention Doc Ock, Vulture, Rhino and Kraven are still at large.

But more than Venom, I think Flash Thompson really shines in this episode. He saved Peter's ass. Twice. He really is Spidey's biggest fan, and I think the ending proved that fact is not sad.

I did like all the reactions to Ned Lee's interview. Norman Osborn said "No" (Alan Rachins gets hauled in for a one syllable word), but I am not entirely convinced he meant it. The Connors just laughed, but gave it serious thought. None of Peter's classmates believe it... although I suspect Mary Jane knows. Gwen laughed (then almost kissed him... curses). I don't think Jameson believed it, but he'd be a fool not to follow up on it. I don't think Ned Lee believed it either, but he was doing his job like a good reporter. But, if George Stacy doesn't know, then I am brain dead.

Aunt May's reaction had me in stitches.

Good to see the gene cleanser come back. And out of Venom's gut mouth also... I love that thing.

"Brock's lost it, Venom is like, twice his size!"

Eddie begging Peter to help him get the symbiote back at the end is just... sick.

I assume Brock is on his way to Ravencroft. Roommates with Electro, John Jameson, and Cletus Kassady (God, I hope that doesn't go where I fear it will).

Miles Warren is officially the slimiest character in the series. I would not be surprised if he was planning to oust the Connors as soon as he got the job. I hope we eventually see that jackal get what's coming to him.

And finally Flash Thompson as Bottom... the role he was born for. He was just the last one to find out. I did like the cartoonish ass head.

Good episode... once again, the team knocks it out of the park.

*** END SPIDEY SPOILERS ***

Greg responds...

Thanks. We try.

Response recorded on April 21, 2009

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Dmitri writes...

I was just wondering...I have a very general question. How is it you or any of us know how well a cartoon does. I mean, is there a website that shows a show's ratings? I was interested in knowing how spectacular Spiderman, or any show for that matter, is doing in popularity and there seems to be little out there when I search. Great work on spectacular spiderman by the way. Best cartoon ever.

Greg responds...

I learn about the ratings from my bosses. I would think they're published SOMEWHERE, but I couldn't tell you where.

Response recorded on April 21, 2009

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anonymous writes...

Hello.

Since we had season finale arcs for the symbiote/Venom and the Green Goblin, are you open to the idea to a Doctor Octopus season finale storyline?

Also, I hope we see more of Mary Jane Watson next season, please. Yeah, we know Venom said that Peter loves Gwen most on this show, but I'd love to see more of M.J. with Peter. And more Anna Watson, too. Mary Jane's Aunt Anna has kind of been a no-show lately.

I hope we see more of Tombstone. Kevin Michael Richardson does a fantastic job on the show. Hope Calypso and Molten Man return, too.

By the way, will we ever hear Harry Osborn's mom speak on the show?

I'd like to say thanks so much to you and the rest of the writers and crew of this show. "The Spectacular Spider-Man" is the best Spider-Man TV series I've ever seen. Hope that everyone on the cast/crew returns for many more seasons.

Greg responds...

SPIDEY SPOILERS!!!!

Thanks. We hope so too.

Response recorded on April 21, 2009

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nacnud writes...

Dear greg,
I was just wondering, how many pages is a script to one of the episodes to the Spectacular Spider-Man?

Greg responds...

First season, we had a 38 page maximum. Second season we had a 36 page maximum, and we were often (if not quite always) still too long. It's somewhat frustrating, but the end result is hard to complain about.

Response recorded on April 20, 2009

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Harlan Phoenix writes...

Not so much a question, but a comment. A thanks, really.

I HATE, HATE, HATE Venom. With a fiery passion. I dislike the character more than healthy, I'm sure. But I'd like to thank you and your staff of writers for not only providing me with a Venom I could really love, but making the Venom arc of the second season my favorite story arc of the entire series. The framing devices for each episode were excellently done, and Eddie himself proved to be a formidable antagonist who actually utilized the knowledge the symbiote gave him.

So thank you very much. There's little I love more than seeing initially weak characters finally written to their full potential. Great work. This is why you're one of my favorite people ever. Also, whoever wrote those episodes. I'll have to go back and check.

P.S. Although this is largely a post praising your show's Venom, I'd also like to take a moment to say that my favorite character in the show is Electro. I think he's been handled beautifully and I love the transition his character took from "pissed off villain" to "This is all I have." At least, that's how I saw it. I'm eagerly awaiting a hopeful season three and hoping that Electro, among other villains you're planning, shows up and gets fleshed out more.

Thanks for another great cartoon series, Mr. Weisman.

Greg responds...

SPIDEY SPOILERS!!!!!!

The Venom arc was written by Kevin Hopps, Nicole Dubuc and Andrew Robinson. I was blessed to have a great writing staff (including also Randy Jandt and Matt Wayne) on the series.

Planning more "flesh" for all our characters, as screen time allows.

Response recorded on April 20, 2009

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abnormalpixarfan writes...

I just want to now do you have a final say in how a character or story ends up in spectacular spiderman or does someoneeles besides marvel get the last word in the show.

Greg responds...

Marvel, Sony and the network (Disney XD, these days) do have ultimate say, but I can't say there have been a lot of conflicts with any of those companies. Otherwise, Vic Cook and I make all final decisions. Story is more my area, so I'll take responsibility for whatever winds up on screen in that department.

Response recorded on April 20, 2009

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abnormalpixarfan writes...

hey greg first of Ithink spectacular spiderman is my favorite show ever. 2nd love gargoyles I like the little brodway cameo in episode one of spidey I just wanted to ask you said that spectacular spiderman is sorta in a 1962 marvel comics reality so only the characters that were aroud then are aroud now.Now I hear season two is set to end in march (the timeline not reality of corse)and I did some reserch so would that mean Ironman would exist at the end of season 2.I know he won't make a cameo or anything Ijust like the idea that he is around and I think every one will nerd out if they see somthing like Pete saying somthing like "it's the latest from stark industries" or something like that. ps I live in canada so I got to season 2 is awsome.

Greg responds...

You know I don't have my Spider-Man notes with me at the moment, so I can't confirm or deny your assumptions about Iron Man. But I can confirm that the Fantastic Four, the Hulk and Ant-Man are all active at this stage, and that Professor X is just beginning to set up his school with his first couple of students (Cyclops and Beast).

Response recorded on April 17, 2009

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nygma619 writes...

Question on the last aired episode, Nature vs. Nurture:
Without going in to spoilers of season 2, if possible.
What exactly was the motivation for Peter to dismiss Eddie (a guy who has dangerous information he could use against Peter, and others) as not important enough to continue searching for him at that moment? Or at the very least to not keep him in the back of his mind, at some time during the thanksgiving dinner?
During that time he carried on like everything was fine. But I never got that feeling at all watching it. It took me out of moments like Peter dumping the gene clenser or Gwen kissing Peter for the first time.

Yes I know what you've said about Peter looking for him next season, and for the sake of ratings/anticipation (to get someone to continue watching) I get why this was done.
But from a storytelling/narrative standpoint I find it annoying, and it feels too much like Peter looking the other way, for my liking.
Now had something like Peter taking Eddie to Ravencroft after defeating him, then the next season he finds out he's no longer there; and never started any sort of therapy happened. I could buy that.
What I got just didn't fly with me, as it felt too much like the threat had no form of conclusion.

Anyways, was this done for the sake of audience anticipation when you left Eddie Brock out there?

Greg responds...

SPIDEY SPOILERS!!!!!

<sigh>

Of course, he searched for Eddie immediately -- as soon as he finished disposing of the Symbiote. He just didn't find him. Which seemed to me to be a scene not worth showing relative to everything else we had to fit into the episode. He searched for Eddie continually ... which we tried to indicate by both his nightmare in episode 14 and his trip to Eddie's dormroom immediately after. Those two scenes were representative of his entire search. They were never meant to be the sum total of his searching, anymore than, say, his questioning of Blackie and Patch about the Master Planner in episode 16 was supposed to be the sum total of THAT search.

Anyway, after going to the dorm, and not only NOT finding Eddie there but finding INSTEAD clear signs that he had moved out, I assume Spidey checked a few other likely locations, and then, yes, having no other leads, he probably did stop looking for a time, distracted as he was by the antics of such people as Mysterio, Kraven and the Master Planner, et al.

See, I don't deny that Pete's a distractible boy. Girls distract him. Aunt May's condition distracts him. Other villains distract him. Etc. Is Eddie ALWAYS on his mind? No. But the idea that Eddie wasn't in the back of Pete's mind during this period is belied by the nightmare, I would think. Not to mention his fear that he was seeing things when Eddie did finally show up and began gaslighting him.

Including scenes of Pete taking Eddie to Ravencroft, scenes of him checking on Eddie in Ravencroft later and finding him gone, i.e. the type of stuff you're suggesting -- well, it strikes me as a waste of precious screen time. (Besides, I have plans for Eddie and Ravencroft, as I think would be obvious by how we ended the Season Two Venom arc. Wasn't much point in feinting in that direction and then balking, only to restart that Ravencroft plotline again in Season Three. I'd rather there were distinctions/differences between how the situation is left at the end of our two Venom arcs, as opposed to duplicating the same beats.)

Again... only 19 minutes and thirty seconds of original content in each episode means I have to be somewhat economic with what I put on screen. And I'm not shy about making the audience WORK either. Making them fill in the blanks. Sometimes that tactic is successful, sometimes not. But I don't really feel I had much choice in the matter. For ANYTHING I put in, down to the shortest line of dialogue, something else has to come out. As I've mentioned before, you might feel there were other things worth dumping in favor of clarifying this point. But what you might have been okay with dumping, I can guarantee another fan somewhere would not have been. So I always have to rely on my own instincts, and thus choices are made. I felt Pete's feelings here would be fairly clear, given all he had said to Eddie and Venom during the episode. You clearly disagree.

Left with no other choice, we'll have to agree to disagree. I get that the story "just didn't fly with [you]" and believe me, I wish it did. But all I can say is that it indeed flew for me, and I hope it flapped pretty well -- or at least glided along -- for most of our audience. But I learned a long time ago that I can't win 'em all. (Though God knows I agonize over the attempt to do just that.)

Response recorded on April 16, 2009

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Mike P. writes...

I recently watched season two of Spectacuar Spider-Man, and I have to hand it to you. I honestly think you topped season one. I've honestly never given much thought to the crime family plots in spider-man before, but the gang war arc was very exciting and a thrill to watch. You made Silvermane badass! I also enjoyed the unmasking of Green Goblin. I liked how you more or less played around with the identity of a well-estabished villain in such a way that had me second guessing myself several times throughout the episode.

I also would like to personally thank you for the inclusion of Mark Alan in the series. I myself am Puerto Rican and was happy to see a fellow boricua in an animated series that wasn't either a stereotypical gang member or throw away comic relief. There really arn't that many major puerto rican characters in comics, and the ones that are there don't really have that big of roles, have lame powers, or are killed off (see Vibe from DC or Tag from Marvel). I thought Mark Alan's character was well developed and I enjoyed his redemptive nature as well as his various character flaws. I'm looking forward to the progression of his character in the future, and the progression of the series as a whole. You've set up several plot points that have me excited for a possible third season and beyond. It would definetely be a shame if the show isn't picked up again.

Thanks again for a great show, and good luck on all your endeavors!

Greg responds...

SPIDEY SPOILERS!!!!

I'm really glad you liked it... and that you liked Mark. We're hoping for a third season too.

Response recorded on April 16, 2009


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