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Aris Katsaris writes...
Does Mab have a 'favourite' form the same way every other fay we've seen does? If so, is that form humanlike (such as Puck, Oberon, Titania, Odin, etc) or something else (like Anansi?)
Greg responds...
All right, let's keep in mind that I'm no artist and that animation is a collaborative medium. I'd be a fool to write myself into a corner before seeing what someone like Greg Guler, for example, might come up with for the character. So don't hold me to anything...
But having said that, I see the multi-formed Mab favoring a basic visual theme and appearing more times than not in a single form. I see that form being basically humanoid -- though maybe with four arms instead of two. And I'm toying with the idea that she favors being three inches tall.
Something about someone who is MORE powerful than Oberon favoring a form that tiny appeals to me.
Is that a big enough hint?
Airwalker writes...
What would Titania's response be to Renard's death?
Greg responds...
Sadness. Peace.
She'd have been with him, as Anastasia, at the end, along with Fox, Alexander, Vogel and Goliath. I had a story planned for the third season.
Maybe someday...
Airwalker writes...
Once you stated that as late as 2158 Puck would still be around and stuck as Owen in the mortal world. You also stated that the way Owen avoids the effects of aging is that he basically resets himself whenever he transforms from Puck to Owen. If he is stuck as Owen in 2158, then how does he avoid aging?
Greg responds...
He's stuck starting in 2158. Stuck for a very specific reason. So starting in 2158 he does begin aging normally. Unless the situation changes...
Airwalker writes...
In HERITAGE, when Raven in Gargoyle form first introduced himself to Goliath and Angela he had five fingers. Later when he again appeared as Gargoyle, he had four fingers. Was this an animation error or was it done on purpose as a sort of hint to Raven's true identity?
Greg responds...
Uh....
A hint. Yeah. That's the ticket.
Todd Jensen writes...
A couple of questions about Oberon and Titania's children that you mentioned here a while ago.
1. Are they Third Race members that we've already met, or brand-new characters? (I suspect the latter myself, but I want to make certain).
2. If the latter, would they be traditional figures of legend or literature like their mom and dad (and Grandma Mab, for that matter), or people whom you'd made up?
Greg responds...
1. Brand new, as far as I know.
2. Mostly the former.
Airwalker writes...
In the archive when asked if the Fey are still on Avalon with Oberon in 2158, you answered "Largely." Besides Owen/Puck, how many other Fey do you figure would be off of Avalon in that time? One? Five? Too many to count?
Greg responds...
Too many to count on one hand. But not a lot.
Airwalker writes...
At the end of THE GATHERING 2, did Oberon restore Fortress 2 to the air and fix up Central Park so there was no evidence of any battle, or did he leave it in place?
If it wasn't moved, then how did Renard explain why it crashed again? And if people think that yet another flying fortress crashed, why would they be willing to allow it to go up a third time?
Greg responds...
Do you really think Oberon would have bothered?
And who said it went up a third time?
Durax writes...
You've mentioned in the past that Elisa and some others might wear Odin's Eye. Odin has his eye back however. How does he lose it again?
Greg responds...
When did I mention that?
Airwalker writes...
1. What would you say is the Fey Population of Avalon in present times?
2. Would the Fey population of Avalon have grown by 2158?
Greg responds...
<Wooh> Airwalker. You sure went to town with the questions on August 7th.
1. I don't know.
2. I guess.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Are the Weird Sisters the origin of all the "three-sisters" myths around the world? For example are they the origin for the Fates, the Furies, the Norns, the Morrigan, the Graeae and so on? Or were there other triple deities around as well?
Greg responds...
I hate to give an absolutist answer, but I wasn't planning any other triple sister acts. I had larger plans for the Weird Sisters, that would have included (at minimum) the Fates, Furies and Norns. (I have to plead ignorance re: the Morrigan. Do me a favor, Aris, and post something here about them.)
But it's the Graeae that give me pause. They seem so distinct from the others. Might be New Olympian Territory.
Aris Katsaris writes...
You had mentioned once that Phoebe was the kind one, Selene the harsher one, and Luna the mystical one.
Problem is I didn't see any difference among their personalities. Were you just joking, or did you indeed have plans to differentiate them in this manner?
Greg responds...
I feel I did differentiate them in this manner. I suppose I might have failed, but I don't think so. Listen to their voices, their attitudes.
And if that doesn't work <sigh> than Phoebe has blonde hair, Seline black, Luna silver.
Aris Katsaris writes...
So, (a silly question) who would have won, Odin or the Banshee, if Oberon hadn't stopped the fight? :)
Greg responds...
I'd have to lay odds on Odin, but the Banshee might have gotten lucky.
Aris Katsaris writes...
When did you decide that deities like Odin and Anubis were part of the same race with the 'elves'? Was it part of the original conception of the series or a later thought?
(Btw, I agree with it. In various mythologies the distinction between elves and gods is almost non-existent, so it's very reasonable.)
Greg responds...
Thanks for the support. But the question is harder to answer, because it was gradual. Keep in mind the whole concept of the Third Race (introduced with Puck in THE MIRROR) was a late addition to the concept. I think we came up with it halfway through the writing of the first season.
Including the other gods came during the writing of the second season. I definitely knew I was headed that way. But I do remember Frank and Dennis being surprised when the script for "The Gathering, Part One" included Odin, Anubis and Coyote at Avalon. By then, I was certain that was the correct way to go. But I guess I had forgotten to tell anyone.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Asked about whether halflings like Fox, Alex and Merlin age slower, you responded "It depends." On what does it depend?
Greg responds...
On how human they live and believe their lives to be. On training. On appearance. On luck.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Did Titania really love Renard, or was he just a game? Around what time did she leave him? And was it before or after he became ill and paralyzed?
Greg responds...
Titania did love him when she married him and for years after. In a way, she probably still loves him. But he was too rigid, too mortal to hold her interests for too long. And I imagine they divorced before he became ill. He didn't blame her departure on his illness, but on his integrity.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Some time ago in the S8 room, you had of an idea you'd suddenly got, that the Indian changeling boy Titania and Oberon were fighting over in Midsummer's Night Dream, could actually have been Oberon's son.
If you ever get a chance of doing Gargoyles again, is it reasonable to assume that this idea could enter the story?
Greg responds...
Probably. I'd have to focus on the effect it would have on the larger all-ready planned story, but I think I could make it fit. And one of the fun things about Gargoyles was that new ideas always seemed to glide into place nicely after a bit of brainwork.
So, tentatively, yes.
Bud-Clare writes...
Do Oberon's Children reproduce in roughly the same way humans do, or in some other terribly interesting way? Um, maybe I should clarify that a bit. For instance, do they have to carry their unborn children for some length of time?
Greg responds...
Depends what form they're in.
Bud-Clare writes...
Are Puck's parents anyone we would have heard of (i.e. characters from mythology, legends, literature, etc...), or people you made up yourself?
Greg responds...
Not ready to tell right now. Sorry.
Ceira writes...
Dear Mr. Weisman,
This may sound like a stupid question to you, but I figured that if anyone could answer my question, it'd be you. A friend of mine and I are kinda having and arguement about eyes. Mainly Puck and Demona's. She says Puck's are blue and Demona's gray. I say Puck's are grey and Demona's black. What color are Puck's and Demona's eyes?
Sincerely,
Ceira
Greg responds...
Ceira, for once I'm not trying to give a smart-ass response. Here's the thing. I don't remember and I'm color-blind. So even if I pulled out the videos and looked, the odds are about fifty-fifty as to whether I'd be able to tell.
Sorry.
Airwalker writes...
Does it haunt Goliath that he could kill Lexington so easily for being a traitor in FUTURE TENSE when he couldn't do the same to Demona in a similier situation?
(I know that he knows now that it was all just a Puck created illusion that he disposed of, but at the time he really thought it was Lexington.)
Greg responds...
I'm not sure he was conscious of a desire or intent to kill. (Which is not the same as denying he had one.) Technically, I think we're talking voluntary manslaughter.
But to answer your question, I think that Goliath -- being a straightforward guy, with enough real tragedy on his plate -- would not be too inclined to dwell on actions that he was driven to by a fantasy world perversly designed to drive him to absolute despair.
Airwalker writes...
I once asked "Now that Renard knows the truth about Anastasia, has it changed anything in terms of his feelings for her" to which you replied "What exactly does he know?"
So he doesn't know that Anastasia is Titania? Why not? I mean, why would Xanatos and Fox keep him in the dark about that if they already informed him about Oberon?
Wasn't he curious as to why Oberon was after Alex?
Greg responds...
This question gave me a headache. It's full of assumptions. I didn't say he didn't know that Anastasia is Titania. But is that the same thing as your initial question?
Precision. Precision. Precision.
But cutting through my obfuscation, I think that Renard will go to his grave loving Anastasia. Titania means nothing to him. That doesn't mean he doesn't know.
Aris Katsaris writes...
I have to admit I have not understood the death-god thing and the events of 'Grief' in their entirety.
1. While Anubis was captured, was noone able to die in the whole world, or only around Egypt?
2. If the former, how come, since there are other death-gods than Anubis? Were they also powerless while Anubis was captive?
3. If Anubis had remained captive, or even more so if Jackal had remained his avatar, how would the other death-gods have reacted to the situation?
Greg responds...
1. Whole world.
2. Powerless, no. But the spell put DEATH itself in stasis. Leading to...
3. I think you would have seen something cataclysmic from the other Death-Gods. Can you picture Odin, for example, just sitting back?
Thank God, Avalon sent our four heroes to Giza.
Aris Katsaris writes...
A short question once again on the topic of the New Olympians... You said that they are the offspring of humans and members of the Third race - but the other such halflings we've seen (Fox, Alex and almost certainly Merlin) are human-looking. Am I correct in assuming that the appearance of each of the original non-human looking NOs was such because of their fay parent's appearance (at the time of the conception)?
Greg responds...
Yeah, either that, or you had some of the children mating with some non-sentients.
Hey, it happens...
Aris Katsaris writes...
Has the norse mythological Ragnarok occurred in the Gargoyles Universe? That Odin is still around would make one think that it hasn't, but one can never be sure that the rumours of his death weren't an exaggeration... (sorry for the cliche!) If it has occurred which other norse deities, supposedly dead, could still be around?
Greg responds...
A Ragnarok occurred. But not necessarily THE Ragnarok.
And you didn't really think I'd publish a list of surviving Asgardians did you?
And no, we're not starting another contest... YET.
Aris Katsaris writes...
There has been a thought concerning the character you named "Naught" that this is actually a pun on your behalf (Since Naught means nothing) and that you meant you didn't actually have plans concerning him. I'm asking you just to be sure: Did you have plans for "Naught" or was he supposed to be just a random fay with no real importance?
And was his strange clothing (modern suit, very old fashioned cape) deliberate?
Greg responds...
All things are true.
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